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masterdragonson

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I just didn't expect anything like that, since this game didn't seem to be very well liked in the comments; therefore, I never imagined that anyone would think this merited additional optimization or changes.
Some will like it and some won't, don't assume the critics are the general audience as not many come to talk, it's also hard to do with one hand :LOL: Same can be said about movie reviews.
 

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Much appreciated!
TBH, I thought I did a ton of modding in RPGMaker MZ in addition to the translation, but yours is on another level.
I've already moved on to another translation, but thanks for doing all that work. I just didn't expect anything like that, since this game didn't seem to be very well liked in the comments; therefore, I never imagined that anyone would think this merited additional optimization or changes.

Perhaps next time, you might want to ask anyone potentially working on/who has "ownership" of a project before you put any work into a game like this. It's less about permission (after all, we're both editing an actual sold game without permission anyway, and it seems both of us are doing this for the community, rather than for money), and more about communication. I'm thinking that, if I or another translator/modder were already working to edit something in the game and uploading new patches, it'd be a waste of time since we'd have branched versions now.

But that's just a suggestion for the future. I usually work better on my own, but I also think it'd be great to have collaboration for projects like these and get more people in the community involved. Again, thanks much for all the hard work and I hope your contributions are appreciated more than my own.
I did try to contact you. https://f95zone.to/threads/80179/post-6006443 Since I didn't see a reply, I assumed you moved on.

Anyways most of what I did was a standard set of changes I've been making to RPG Maker MV games, so I was able to crank it out in 3-4 hours.
 

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Oh wait, I download 1.02 since I think it fixes some bug when I play (like Cg freeze after the scene end) which I do believe you guys fixed that, but now it lost the secret ending that the translator put it in himself. I went to the same place that I activated the secret ending to choose differently this time, but now I don't see the trigger anymore.

Edit: I see the place was move and now the trigger is crystal but when I choose to raise the demon king crest it just teleport me back to home and nothing happen
 

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Oh wait, I download 1.02 since I think it fixes some bug when I play (like Cg freeze after the scene end) which I do believe you guys fixed that, but now it lost the secret ending that the translator put it in himself. I went to the same place that I activated the secret ending to choose differently this time, but now I don't see the trigger anymore.

Edit: I see the place was move and now the trigger is crystal but when I choose to raise the demon king crest it just teleport me back to home and nothing happen
I'll look at it. There were overlapping changes and this may have been merged badly as a result.
 
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I did try to contact you. https://f95zone.to/threads/80179/post-6006443 Since I didn't see a reply, I assumed you moved on.
Ah, you're right. My fault. Thanks for the update then.

Oh wait, I download 1.02 since I think it fixes some bug when I play (like Cg freeze after the scene end) which I do believe you guys fixed that, but now it lost the secret ending that the translator put it in himself. I went to the same place that I activated the secret ending to choose differently this time, but now I don't see the trigger anymore.

Edit: I see the place was move and now the trigger is crystal but when I choose to raise the demon king crest it just teleport me back to home and nothing happen
lol, this is what I'm referencing in regards to branching; multiple people working on variations or updates to a project independently will inevitably cause things to break or overwrite changes. I'm gonna let kin-kun take care of this one.
 

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I just finished it and mostly I enjoyed your translation. Honestly, I want to stop play this after the first boy scene because I don't like Netorare, but I tried to look past that because it was also kinda Mc fault, and in the end, it was harem end.

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Honestly, I wanted to add a bunch of switches and triggers to prevent a harem end (in both the secret ending and the canonical ending) if the player went with (too many) NTR scenes, but I was a little burned out from adding a ton of features that I didn't have enough energy. That and I wanted to move on to another project at that point, haha. I do think that, for those who hate NTR, it's embedded in this game so discreetly that there's no way to figure out how to avoid it without either playing the game first or using a walkthrough/spoiler.

Yeaaaahh, the plotline is a little iffy for me too. You can also just blame my writing, since I'm not translating some of the plot word-for-word (otherwise, it'd actually be even less about the MC and more about NTR). I do admit trying to translate so that the harem theme comes out more does make the story a little confusing at parts because the girls don't seem very believable since they're at times loyal to the MC but also sluts.
 
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this is netori game ~ the ntr kids dont like is avoidable if you lose to enemies mehh
i assume the ntr declared here is netori not netorare.
netori is when you play as the persons that cucks someone else (so not the shitty masochistic perspective).
the difference is pretty much heaven & earth but out of some reason it does not get differentiated on this site (which is beyond me).
all of the ntr scenes are netorare ones tho
there's no netori
 
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Ok, so as an NTR fan i'm trying to change the maps 014, 052, and 097 back to the forced NTR path. My question is do you remove the map version with the bk in it as well? Also noticed that for map 052 theres two bk versions a standard one and an NTR one. Is that normal?
 

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This game isn't bad, but a heavy WARNING to those who want to jump in: this is effectively a visual novel. The amount of non-essential dialogue is IMMENSE! You'll spend hours reading through dialogue. Further, the game is completely on rails. The player doesn't have very much agency, at least not until later in the game. Almost all of the game is spent hitting "Z" shifting through dialogue, and your character around to scripted locations.

If you're looking for some light reading with porn mixed in, this is for you. If you're looking to play a game, find something else.
 
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While you're looking into things perhaps look into these too
https://f95zone.to/threads/isekai-harem-fantasia-v1-02-triangle.85720/post-5997343
https://f95zone.to/threads/isekai-harem-fantasia-v1-02-triangle.85720/post-6007581

Mid as well have the images translated if it's getting updated anyways :geek:
Thanks for mentioning. I quietly updated my post on ULMF as well as my patch a few days ago to reflect your changes, and credited you in the changelog.

Ok, so as an NTR fan i'm trying to change the maps 014, 052, and 097 back to the forced NTR path. My question is do you remove the map version with the bk in it as well? Also noticed that for map 052 theres two bk versions a standard one and an NTR one. Is that normal?
No, the bk one doesn't affect anything regardless. Just replace the originals with the ones that have an NTR append to it.

I don't see a NTR bk for Map052. There are 2 bks for Map052 (should've probably deleted all the bk maps from my data folder before uploading to avoid confusion, but also didn't think it'd be this difficult, haha), though those don't do anything if you just leave them alone.
 
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Thanks for mentioning. I quietly updated my post on ULMF as well as my patch a few days ago to reflect your changes, and credited you in the changelog.



No, the bk one doesn't affect anything regardless. Just replace the originals with the ones that have an NTR append to it.

I don't see a NTR bk for Map052. There are 2 bks for Map052 (should've probably deleted all the bk maps from my data folder before uploading to avoid confusion, but also didn't think it'd be this difficult, haha), though those don't do anything if you just leave them alone.
thanks for clearing that up for me. and thank you for translating the game as well as the extra scenes you put into the game.
 
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Thanks for mentioning. I quietly updated my post on ULMF as well as my patch a few days ago to reflect your changes, and credited you in the changelog.



No, the bk one doesn't affect anything regardless. Just replace the originals with the ones that have an NTR append to it.

I don't see a NTR bk for Map052. There are 2 bks for Map052 (should've probably deleted all the bk maps from my data folder before uploading to avoid confusion, but also didn't think it'd be this difficult, haha), though those don't do anything if you just leave them alone.
So honestly I hadn't caught how much extra you added. It is going to take some time to put those changes back in. I hadn't realized you added two new maps, because somehow that was not in the MapInfos.json

At the same time, I'm making the Forced NTR a config time variable, so people don't need to modify their game.
 
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So honestly I hadn't caught how much extra you added. It is going to take some time to put those changes back in. I hadn't realized you added two new maps, because somehow that was not in the MapInfos.json

At the same time, I'm making the Forced NTR a config time variable, so people don't need to modify their game.
If you need a list of my changes, it's in the ReadMe.

Sure. And no, I don't edit the MapInfos.json to reflect my own changes because I don't really expect anyone to edit my edits, haha. That's great; I don't know how the config time variable would work, nor am I really that concerned. Honestly, I don't think too many people would really want to have forced NTR (except for the few posting here), and I only just added the option in case those few wanted to go through the extra 30 seconds of swapping the maps, lol. Just telling you since I wouldn't want you spending extra effort to appease a likely minority of folks for a minimal feature/change that only really takes less than a minute of effort to execute, heh.
 

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If you need a list of my changes, it's in the ReadMe.

Sure. And no, I don't edit the MapInfos.json to reflect my own changes because I don't really expect anyone to edit my edits, haha. That's great; I don't know how the config time variable would work, nor am I really that concerned. Honestly, I don't think too many people would really want to have forced NTR (except for the few posting here), and I only just added the option in case those few wanted to go through the extra 30 seconds of swapping the maps, lol. Just telling you since I wouldn't want you spending extra effort to appease a likely minority of folks for a minimal feature/change that only really takes less than a minute of effort to execute, heh.
Hard to say how much time it took since I was working on about 5 other changes at the same time. Maybe 20 minutes. Basically I created a new switch duplicated the pages of the events that were different, copied the NTR text into the new page and made it dependent on my switch.

I haven't done anything more than a simple play test right now, so if you happen to have some save files at strategic points, that would be awesome.

Otherwise I might just post what I have and ask people to check it for me.

Oh and I just realized, I left out your read me document. I'll make sure that gets put back in.
 
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I haven't done anything more than a simple play test right now, so if you happen to have some save files at strategic points, that would be awesome.
I have a bunch of my saves (2 full folders, so 40 total) and most are at strategic points, but some are just randoms.
They're also uncategorized/unlabeled, so you'll have to go through and see the progress for each one, sorry.
Do you still want them?

Also, thanks for adding my ReadMe. I'm a little picky about people editing a game I've translated/edited without keeping stuff like that in there, so I definitely appreciate that, haha. :D
 
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Okay, looking at the DLsite article, here's the deal: NTR seems to be a misnomer on this game.

1. You build fame by taking quests from a adventure's guild, which causes girls to start noticing how good you are.
2. You also have an aphroditic effect that makes it so the girls don't mind you sexually harassing them as much.
3. If you lose in combat, the girls get raped. But this is for YOU as the player character to enjoy watching, rather than feel guilty or weak over it happening.

So yeah. Doesn't seem all that NTR to me. To me, it just seems like a game that had a different goal in mind, and someone had a WAY too broad definition of "NTR" and stuck the NTR label on it as a knee-jerk reaction. But I'm open to being countered on this perception of mine.

Granted, I'm about to play the game, so I'll see if I can confirm that more first-hand.
 
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