Italian website selling porn games and claiming to own the copyright for them

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Plenty of those pay download sites have the option to make downloads premium only. In which case people have to pay for them. What is so special about this Italian company.
And there is always another download site people can choose in this case, but in the most cases you can dl for free anyway.
 

Jackson555

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Leave it mate, you are in the wrong side of law and logic. Your reasoning is false because it does damage to the creator and I already explained why in 2 posts. I can't just choose to sell a book that I didn't write, a comic that I didn't draw or anything else without the creator's permission.

In fact they could do it right if they wanted, talk to the creator, offer a deal (usual is 70% of sales to the creator 30% to the translators) and all profit. Doing things wrong because you want more money isn't an excuse
All of those things happen all the time. You can find any comic you want to download right now online for free or for a price from one of those pay download sites. If you're against it ok but why is this particular Italian company being targeted when theyre just one of hundreds
 

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All of those things happen all the time. You can find any comic you want to download right now online for free or for a price from one of those pay download sites. If you're against it ok but why is this particular Italian company being targeted when theyre just one of hundreds
No, reselling sites you won't find and if you find they are taken down as fast as the wind. Look, the fight against uploading sites and reselling sites is different and with reason.
 

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All of those things happen all the time. You can find any comic you want to download right now online for free or for a price from one of those pay download sites. If you're against it ok but why is this particular Italian company being targeted when theyre just one of hundreds
Thats what I tried to explain with my first answer, but you seem to be avoiding logic :ROFLMAO:
 
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Being uploaded elsewhere is not the same as being sold elsewhere. The former is legally a gray area, the latter is straight up illegal.
People can easily be taken to court over that. You're not particularly allowed to sell products that aren't yours let alone ones that are free.
Copyright means the right to copy. Whether someone sells or not if they copy and don't have right it's illegal.
 

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No, reselling sites you won't find and if you find they are taken down as fast as the wind. Look, the fight against uploading sites and reselling sites is different and with reason.
Even in free uploading sites, people are still making money off of your game because of all the ads they stuff into the sites. But even they plenty of times make the download premium only and plenty have rules like you can't download stuff over 1gb without a premium account. Either way someone's making money off your game which is why they bothered to upload it in the first place. So I don't see a difference.
 

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Where is Runey sharing his game for free?
To be fair, he does actually share it for free. All his official releases are free, only the betas and pre-releases are not. But he even posted links to beta 3 after someone leaked broken versions.

Even in free uploading sites, people are still making money off of your game because of all the ads they stuff into the sites. But even they plenty of times make the download premium only and plenty have rules like you can't download stuff over 1gb without a premium account. Either way someone's making money off your game which is why they bothered to upload it in the first place. So I don't see a difference.
There is a difference between reselling a game and making money from ads.
 

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All of those things happen all the time. You can find any comic you want to download right now online for free or for a price from one of those pay download sites. If you're against it ok but why is this particular Italian company being targeted when theyre just one of hundreds
If this one is claiming to own copyright for them and yet it clearly doesn't, your question is kinda answered in the title?

They're literally claiming they have rights to IP's.
"but other people do it too" is just a pointless discussion that goes absolutely nowhere.
Yes, hundreds of sites do this but we can't realistically keep tabs and talk about every single one at every exact moment. This thread is talking about this website, it is utterly pointless to mention others.
They are all in the wrong.


Premium download sites are different anyway since you pay for the bandwidth and storage space, not the games specifically.
Actually claiming you have rights to these games and selling them is completely awful.
 

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You give away a game you didn't produce, you make money off of this. I don't see how they are significantly different.
The significant and should be obvious difference is that ad companies are paying you.
You're not being paid for a product you have no license for.

What exactly are you missing here?
 

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Even in free uploading sites, people are still making money off of your game because of all the ads they stuff into the sites. But even they plenty of times make the download premium only and plenty have rules like you can't download stuff over 1gb without a premium account. Either way someone's making money off your game which is why they bothered to upload it in the first place. So I don't see a difference.
How can you not see the difference between sites that share games for free with, sites that possible make money with ads or premium hosting accounts and a site that is selling the game claiming that it's their work.
 

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All of the games on this site are reuploaded elsewhere, way more than just this Italian company has reuploaded Harem Hotel and put it behind one of those pay download sites. Why target this one company in particular. And why care when you're not losing any money.
It's pretty simple and it all boils down to this: they are profiting from someone else's labor. If they made a translation patch and sold that, it would've been one thing, but reselling the whole game as theirs is a no no.
They are both infringing on the author's IP and scamming their clients by making them pay for a product that was not even meant to be sold. And in doing so they are infringing on Illusion/Kotaku's IP too, since they stated that it's fine to make games with HS screenshots but not to sell them.
There is no reason for those people to gain any money for work they didn't do, it's as simple as that.
Of course we're all on a pirate forum and know people will pirate stuff, but there's a very big difference between sharing pirated software and selling it. Both are illegal, but the second is a more serious offense, to the point that it might even be criminal.
 

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And in doing so they are infringing on Illusion/Kotaku's IP too, since they stated that it's fine to make games with HS screenshots but not to sell them.
That gives me an idea... why not point illusion to this site? I'm sure they won't like it either :sneaky:
 
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If this one is claiming to own copyright for them and yet it clearly doesn't, your question is kinda answered in the title?

They're literally claiming they have rights to IP's.
"but other people do it too" is just a pointless discussion that goes absolutely nowhere.
Yes, hundreds of sites do this but we can't realistically keep tabs and talk about every single one at every exact moment. This thread is talking about this website, it is utterly pointless to mention others.
They are all in the wrong.


Premium download sites are different anyway since you pay for the bandwidth and storage space, not the games specifically.
Actually claiming you have rights to these games and selling them is completely awful.
All they're doing is the same as everyone else uploading media they didn't make for profit. Well anyway I was just wondering why Runey picked at this particular company when it's just one of hundreds, and why he cares about any of these hundreds of sites doing it when he's still making 8k+ a month like always and it has no effect on him. I would only care If this negatively affected me somehow.
 

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You mean this one it was not uploaded by Runey.



show me where the latest version is free.
The thread is only updated when its leaked or released by runey himself. As far a I know, the prerelease 2 is just bug fixes and nothing new added.
 
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