QSP Jack-o-Nine-Tails [v2.3] [ImperatorAugustusTertius / qwertyu12359]

[ImperatorAugustusTertius]

Previous release changelog: https://f95zone.to/threads/jack-o-n...tsman-community-development.390/post-13355694

Bumped dev version to 2.2.6.2 (older saves are fully compatible; enable "Ignore version check when loading" in the Game menu)

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[BliniKot]

One more thing I want to ask
Is giving employees to shop actually do anything?
the pay is mediocre and you and haggle but is there any point of selling for cheaps for goodwills? any benefits?

 

[ImperatorAugustusTertius]

One more thing I want to ask
Is giving employees to shop actually do anything?
the pay is mediocre and you and haggle but is there any point of selling for cheaps for goodwills? any benefits?

Currently not, aside from that they accept C- rating. Edit: Goodwill does increase bargaining success/value with that NPC for a later deal.

One idea is to require proving yourself with a shopkeeper from the faction you want to impress before you can sell to other residents of the faction.

In theory if you played long enough you could run out of buyers except for the renewable ones - shops, guild, auction. Doubt anyone ever does...

 

[BliniKot]

In theory if you played long enough you could run out of buyers except for the renewable ones - shops, guild, auction. Doubt anyone ever does...

The most profitable way is always to raise as high as you can
auction is like once per 10 days
there is no way you can have more stocks than auction can absorb much less other places

 

[BliniKot]

A good idea of cultivating favors with shops is that maybe they will do commision for you
aka a special better weapon/armor
a special uniform

 

[ImperatorAugustusTertius]

The most profitable way is always to raise as high as you can
auction is like once per 10 days
there is no way you can have more stocks than auction can absorb much less other places

Most profitable per slave to train to the max, but with philtre you can get to C- rating very quickly so it can be an easy way to supplement income.

 

[BliniKot]

Most profitable per slave to train to the max, but with philtre you can get to C- rating very quickly so it can be an easy way to supplement income.

by the time one can make philtre I don't think money to survive is really a concern anymore

 

[ImperatorAugustusTertius]

by the time one can make philtre I don't think money to survive is really a concern anymore

On extreme difficulty covering the rental costs gets expensive. This is an alternative to other methods of supplementing income. Extreme difficulty is all about creating incentives to do things that otherwise aren't worthwhile...

Necessity is the mother of invention etc.

 

[BliniKot]

added permanent diminishing returns for sparing approval, praise and weighty compliment so eventually promises are the only viable choice in the category

Anyone else not liking this? The idea makes sense but making it permanent is weird. Even real people want to be praised much less very loyal slaves

 

[ImperatorAugustusTertius]

added permanent diminishing returns for sparing approval, praise and weighty compliment so eventually promises are the only viable choice in the category

Anyone else not liking this? The idea makes sense but making it permanent is weird. Even real people want to be praised much less very loyal slaves

How about if we add one extra effective use per decade?

 

[dbxhfl452]

How about if we add one extra effective use per decade?

Honestly I think setting arbitrary numbers like that is unrealistic.

How about its effectiveness slowly recovering if you don't use them?

 

[ImperatorAugustusTertius]

Honestly I think setting arbitrary numbers like that is unrealistic.

How about its effectiveness slowly recovering if you don't use them?

How slowly? Mechanically, what I proposed is identical to what you proposed except that I was specific with “per decade”.

 

[dbxhfl452]

How slowly? Mechanically, what I proposed is identical to what you proposed except that I was specific with “per decade”.

I guess I first misunderstood what you said. I thought decade like how it works IRL. So effective in day 39, 40 and then 50 and so on. But it seems like you just mean that it will be effective again after 10 days of last using it.

Anyways I think that's still a bit weird because there are three different degrees of moral encouragement. It doesn't seem realistic to me that sparing approval, which is barely positive, and weighty compliment, when the slaver is almost throwing themselves at the slave out of hapiness, both suddenly switch to effective after 10 days.

Maybe different time period for the 3 makes more sense?

Like 4 days for sparing approval, 8 days for praise, 12 days for weighty compliment.

 

[ImperatorAugustusTertius]

Like 4 days for sparing approval, 8 days for praise, 12 days for weighty compliment.

Works for me. Thanks for your help with the design.

 

[BliniKot]

This idea is a lot more work and probably hard to do but ideally verbal rewards should be tailored to the slave
just like how the final intimate reward is giving her a special reward
sparringly approve can be effective vs new slave
but if we are dealing with obedient/devoted slaves the reward tier and flavor texts should be different
new slave gets approval from doing what is told even though clumsily
more refined slave gets approval from doing what is told well with diligent

 

[ImperatorAugustusTertius]

more refined slave gets approval from doing what is told well with diligent

Devoted slaves already feel guilty if they aren't diligent enough so they won't be expecting any kind of reward then.

 

[RedGreen3]

How does the new decay mechanic work? Is it immediate or does it happen slowly over time?

 

[ImperatorAugustusTertius]

How does the new decay mechanic work? Is it immediate or does it happen slowly over time?

Nightly. 2 points if above threshold. Possible to overcome with continuous effort but can't rest on laurels.

 

[BliniKot]

is this for every single skill?
cause it will be really annoying to keep all your skills in shape

 

[ImperatorAugustusTertius]

is this for every single skill?
cause it will be really annoying to keep all your skills in shape

Not every skill. We've differentiated strength/fighter backgrounds, medic backgrounds, magic backgrounds, artistic backgrounds. Butler is also the only one who will be able to maintain high stewardship easily. If you pick Blade, a non-magical fighter type, then you'll find it easiest if you play to his strengths.

Also this is only story mode (normal start). Custom game has no soft caps.