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qwertyu12359

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It was russian branch v1.7.7.4 by Mars & Jinn (2019-02-15).
Cool, thanks for saying! I'd add that kind of informations to the internet girl in the serpis, or turn her place into a library with salve-internet connection ^^

I checked their latest version and honestly the arts used might be slightly better imho, but there is a lot of unnecessary clients added and HOLY cringe they added a slav-russian district with modern flag.
I gave a check to the "real life" version of the slavic branch, it looks pretty cool!

1712949786360.png The model on the right, against the wall, lives in my head rent-free ^^


oh and sounds, the home-terriblemood soundtrack is cancer (I guess its to make you relate hah).
It's of course on purpose. If you are hearing this music, you're doing something wrong.

Too many players (including myself) were fine simply having an unhappy slaver. They would read the diary, think: "oh he's just whining, what a baby", and completely dissociate themselves. Not only should videogames be immersive, but also it's the perfect incentive to make the player realize that it does matter (it affects how good your character does everything, including training).

And also it's funny. Moreover, good composition! With adequate orchestration (i.e. just piano) compared to the other home songs. :)
 
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ImperatorAugustusTertius

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this was absolutely in a custom game with a custom slaver
Could you upload a copy of your saved game? It’s important to know which game version, and the “obedience difficulty” under the settings menu also has a big impact.

Strength decays nightly if meal quality is lower than strength. We added this so there is a reason not to just eat canned food forever and save hundreds of sparks.

Personality decays nightly if standard of living and home decor are low relative to brand reputation. We added this so there is more incentive to “move up in the world.”

Strength can be increased through sex. The focus on combat always puzzles me. It’s clearly stated in the game if you click the slaver’s strength how you can increase it. Same for other stats.
 
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sexiwof

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OK, so I have a question about Isabella (the woman who forced herself into being our assistant).
In the process of her training, she's doing everything with result "Isabella listens to all your comments and bla-bla-bla", but, after that, for some strange reason, she get Guilty [2]. And, as far as I can see, this - getting the guilt - does not changing despite all my actions, so Isabella grows the Despair in herself.
My question: is this intended, or is this a bug? If intended, what am I doing wrong, because I do not remember such problem on previous versions (I'm currently on up-to-date version 2.2.6.2)?
 

ImperatorAugustusTertius

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OK, so I have a question about Isabella (the woman who forced herself into being our assistant).
In the process of her training, she's doing everything with result "Isabella listens to all your comments and bla-bla-bla", but, after that, for some strange reason, she get Guilty [2]. And, as far as I can see, this - getting the guilt - does not changing despite all my actions, so Isabella grows the Despair in herself.
My question: is this intended, or is this a bug? If intended, what am I doing wrong, because I do not remember such problem on previous versions (I'm currently on up-to-date version 2.2.6.2)?
She is loyal, but not very obedient, when you acquire her. She is a strong-willed person and she has convinced herself that being your slave is best. She knows that she is expected to perform well. If she doesn't, she feels guilty. Any devoted slave will feel this way, if their performance on tasks is not impressive enough. You can deal with it using mild punishments if you wish. It might spoil her slightly, but she'll get over it faster because she is devoted. Or, you can improve her mood (ask how she feels, address any problems), and she'll do the best she can for you.

Also, what's this "forced" business? She asks, you can refuse.
 
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ImperatorAugustusTertius

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The point I have is what I like to start at 0 to hero difficulty (extreme 200$ all F-) and it generally means permanent despair for MC until he trains up
We added alcohol in slums so it doesn't have to be this way. Take care of the slaver and the slave, and get a loan when you need one. Penny wise pound foolish as they say.
 

ImperatorAugustusTertius

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Loans is ok but again I try to be realistic who would give a loan to a bun from the streats? Ye right. And they cannot even gut you for organs, there is plenty of that. xD Cheers.
Slaver is already a member of prestigious guild of trainers at game start. Moneylender knows the value of slaves. The first loan level only costs 100$. Quite affordable.

Refusing substances is a choice. There’s other ways to raise the slaver’s mood. Buy him better clothes. Go watch the events at the arena if not participating. Visit the brothel. Take the slave to hot springs and other outings.
 

sexiwof

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Another quick and silly question.
Is there a way to cheat this game? Yes-yes, I know, how immoral of me, but still?
I'm trying to find a way to quickly build Empathy.
I tried to use my .sav file with saveeditonline.com but it's no use - I do not see anything with the Empathy in a name there in a file.
 

qwertyu12359

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Another quick and silly question.
Is there a way to cheat this game? Yes-yes, I know, how immoral of me, but still?
I'm trying to find a way to quickly build Empathy.
I tried to use my .sav file with saveeditonline.com but it's no use - I do not see anything with the Empathy in a name there in a file.
Yes, but only with Custom Start, in easy difficulty.

Then, in the option, you will see a cheat-menu appear. (y)
 
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ImperatorAugustusTertius

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So basically it's not about her guilt, it's about her thinking that she's guilty, and now it's up to me to match this opinion of hers. Got it.
Her guilt is her expectation of punishment. It has nothing to do with whether you (the player) are satisfied with her performance. She knows that she could do better, and she knows that you know it too.
 

ImperatorAugustusTertius

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thus the game begins
Interesting take. So not a slaver but buying and training and selling slaves? Our concept is that the guild has a monopoly on sales. If you own a slave and want to trade to someone else, the guild takes a broker fee. Direct sales are only allowed for members (slavers). As you noted the guild is an essential part of the economy converting raw material into refined products, so they enjoy the support of the district leaders in enforcing their monopoly.
 

ImperatorAugustusTertius

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I mean that someone might give you a hand. Or act as a intermediary in contract fulfillment. Only thing that benefactor from the guild has to do is make the purchase for you to test you as in tutorial.
So you substitute some unnamed guild examiner instead of Angelika in your roleplay narrative.

The tutorial makes clear that until passing the test, operating as a slaver alone is not something the guild allows.

But it’s a single player game, so have fun with your way of telling the story.
 

ravenqueen

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Why does Isabella, who is an S+ cook, produce C+ meals? If I ever eat a single meal below S+ rank my strength goes down an entire tier.
 

Voidbreaker76

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Why does Isabella, who is an S+ cook, produce C+ meals? If I ever eat a single meal below S+ rank my strength goes down an entire tier.
From what I understand it's down to the ingredients you have. You can have the best cook in the world but they aren't going be able to do much if all they have to work with are vegetables and greasy meat. To make a S rank dish you need higher quality and priced ingredients and while if you stay on lower tier meals for a longer period of time you will eventually go down it won't simply be eating a single meal and your fucked.

Speaking of mechanics questions, got one of my own. Recently I trained a D+ rank slave who has medical at B and and magic at A+ and according to the wiki the witch doctor specialization requires Nurse and Enchanter which should also be at B rank judging from the standards that are used for Gladiatrix but for some reason when I try to sell her to someone who is asking for a D+ rank Witch Doctor it says I have to lie to get him to accept her since her stats aren't up to standard. Are Nurse and Enchanter refering to something else than those skills or is there another stat that is required that isn't listed on the wiki?
 
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ravenqueen

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From what I understand it's down to the ingredients you have. You can have the best cook in the world but they aren't going be able to do much if all they have to work with are vegetables and greasy meat. To make a S rank dish you need higher quality and priced ingredients and while if you stay on lower tier meals for a longer period of time you will eventually go down it won't simply be eating a single meal and your fucked.

Speaking of mechanics questions, got one of my own. Recently I trained a D+ rank slave who has medical at B and and magic at A+ and according to the wiki the witch doctor specialization requires Nurse and Enchanter which should also be at B rank judging from the standards that are used for Gladiatrix but for some reason when I try to sell her to someone who is asking for a D+ rank Witch Doctor it says I have to lie to get him to accept her since her stats aren't up to standard. Are Nurse and Enchanter refering to something else than those skills or is there another stat that is required that isn't listed on the wiki?
Thanks, I'll check my inventory. You need Alchemist and Witchcraft both at B+ to qualify for Enchanter.
 

Voidbreaker76

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Thanks, I'll check my inventory. You need Alchemist and Witchcraft both at B+ to qualify for Enchanter.
Well, that would have been good to know before I started invested into this slave. Although now that i'm looking at the wiki more closely, while it says that alchamy is required the only skill that has nurse on it is the actual nurse skill and if we assume that alchemist applies to enchanter than it really doesn't make sense for witchcraft to be the other skill required for it. Are you sure it's the witchcraft skill?

Regardless, this leaves me asking what to do now. I could try and hang onto her to try and raise the ranking to C somehow although the fact that she is a rank D in beauty is going make that problematic unless I want to sink in another 250 into her for surgery and a 20 day recovery or keep throwing her into the arena and hope that raising her reputation can make up for that, although I am a bit concerned how long that will take and how much more investment I would need to sink into her to make her loyal enough to make that work.

The other option is simply eat the loss by selling her to the sub-purchaser although it is only 170 in losses at the moment so that isn't too bad or I could lie and sell her to minor resident and make about 200 although i'm not quiet sure what the consequences of that are beyond just taking a hit regarding the brand status.

Any suggestions would be helpful since i'm going sit on this for at least the night before trying to salvage this.

That being said, this would bring up the one criticism of the game in that it doesn't include information that probably should be in the game. If I didn't have access to the wiki I would have no idea what the requirements for the specialization would be and this kind of thing is vital when your starting out on guild contracts, selling to minor resident, or if this has any effect on branded auctions at the guild.
 

sexiwof

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So, I playtested it for 365 (in-game) days, and I can say everything looks OK.
Except the problem with the Strength, which was already mentioned in a thread.
The Strength got a real problem, it degrades unnaturally, ridiculously fast.
In summary, I got the following test: cheat myself Herculean strength, got the best bed (in best apartment), got my assistant to give me the S+ dishes. Then I went to Colosseum and got the lessons for 5 days in order to secure the status.
Then, I got myself new slave. All I was doing with her - teaching her cooking, in result she served me with D- dishes, and remaining time I spent developing her physics with some exercises.
And, after only 2 days of this, my strength degraded from Herculean to Strong.
I do believe this is ridiculous and needs to be fixed. Except this - game is fun, so far.
 
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BliniKot

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That being said, this would bring up the one criticism of the game in that it doesn't include information that probably should be in the game. If I didn't have access to the wiki I would have no idea what the requirements for the specialization would be and this kind of thing is vital when your starting out on guild contracts, selling to minor resident, or if this has any effect on branded auctions at the guild.
it is in the game, this is on the old version
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the stuff in here are actually quite important like the diary and slaver's mood
altho I have to admit I don't give a shit about his mood unless it's dropping below calm
he's not me, I can't self-insert nor sympathize with him at all because of his job
he acts like me but his personality and needs are not me
 
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