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I just don't understand why I don't have a point in devotion. This is insane.....
Easiest way to get started with that is the "love" potion

And then, the rewards which you need to select in order to build devotion (from memory, it's mostly the one that give intense pleasure)
 

Flash2314

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Easiest way to get started with that is the "love" potion

And then, the rewards which you need to select in order to build devotion (from memory, it's mostly the one that give intense pleasure)
where can I get the love potion? and which reward gives intense pleasure? Sorry, I'm pretty new. Kinda frustrating how I;m doing everything right and still lose. lol
 

clockwinding

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I just don't understand why I don't have a point in devotion. This is insane.....
Fear reduces devotion buildup. It's that simple.
Your slave has more than enough obedience in that screenshot, so keep her mood high, let her have fun, bring her to the beach... to let her fear go down.

Based on the screenshot devotion should be rising already, maybe by 1 score per night as of now, so going from the -10 to +10 devotion score would take 20 days (without rewards like massages/petting/restaurants... some rewards give a couple of score points for devotion) if you just skip days, less assuming you're coming here after waiting some days already.
You're at the tipping point going from fear-based obedience to trust-based obedience right now, it can take a bit of time.

If you're not playing on hard difficulty you can point your cursor on the "does not manifest at all" words while auspex is active to see the current buildup: (it might require having the raven crown item, don't remember)
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Love potion has to be brewed by your slave/assistant, and it's a high level potion needing S+ in alchemy AND magic.

tldr : fear and despair slow devotion buildup. calm your slave down and give it time (and some specific rewards i can't remember). Love potion is best used for high ranking slaves to get the last point of devotion you need for the rank.
 
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teletube

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where can I get the love potion? and which reward gives intense pleasure? Sorry, I'm pretty new. Kinda frustrating how I;m doing everything right and still lose. lol
* Usually, you just need some time and rewards like 'Give free time' or 'Spend time together'.
* You might also want to lower her pride if slave's rank is D+.
* You might want to keep her mood good, at least on a 'Hopeful' level probably.
* You might want to sexually satisfy her in case her Arousal is growing (2+).
* Actually making your slave climax must be a good way to increase her devotion, but it might have an opposite effect, in case she is fearful of cowardly (not sure exactly what contributes here). But as long as she gives in to your affection, it's probably working.
* You might also try taking her to 'Salon Elven Laid' for a '3$ Spa' (it will boost her mood giving you more wiggle room).
* You might use some services from the 'Salon Elven Laid' for yourself too to boost your own Allure (if you're constantly dirty and ugly its harded for the slave to become devoted to you, I guess).
* I also noticed that winning an area fight and rewarding her fairly for that win might boost devotion.
* You might increase your aura using 'Magna Magnifika' on autocast, I believe this also might have an impact.
* Don't make her sleep in your bed unless she has at least three devotion stars.
I never used love potions myself.
 

teletube

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Hey, guys!
Another question from me:

What are the changes of getting a Dexterous + Graceful slave?
What is the maximum natural exotism level for a random slave (found in the fog), is it Enigmatic?
Is there some slave available that has the ideal stats (like Dexterous + Craceful + Max Natural Exotism + Maybe some other positive talents), maybe there exists a quest for such a slave? I do find S+ slaves in the fog from time to time, but they don't seem too impressive, considering most of thier base stats are not that valuable, since they can be trained.

+ On another note:
I played the game a lot, but never really got into the farm...
Can milk farm be self-sustainable? In a sense that it can be left to be? Or will the cow inevitebely go weak and depressed if left unchecked?!
I don't see no settings for the farmhand, it seems my farmhand is not selling milk automatically nor washing the cow?! Or am I missing something?!

Thanks!
 
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bews

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As u guys might know I've been making AI image pack for this game. But I greatly misjudged this game compatibility with AI, specifically 3 age categories: loli, young and milf.

It sounds super ez on paper, but in reality AI produces girls of all ages and to fit them into those 3 separate categories is almost impossible task. It all comes down to anime art and personal conception of age: for example in Japan 16yo high school student looks like 12yo middle school in USA. 12yo should be considered loli right? But then it makes 99% of all anime characters lolis since basically all of them look like 12-14yo kids. This is the main reason why the work is going super slow.

So let me give u an example - meet Shirai Kuroko from To Aru Majutsu no Index anime:
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This is a game ready art, so I want to ask u guys:

Is Shirai Kuroko a loli? Should she be put into loli category or young category? If she is a loli, should ALL anime characters be put into loli category as well then?
 

junweizhu

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As u guys might know I've been making AI image pack for this game. But I greatly misjudged this game compatibility with AI, specifically 3 age categories: loli, young and milf.

It sounds super ez on paper, but in reality AI produces girls of all ages and to fit them into those 3 separate categories is almost impossible task. It all comes down to anime art and personal conception of age: for example in Japan 16yo high school student looks like 12yo middle school in USA. 12yo should be considered loli right? But then it makes 99% of all anime characters lolis since basically all of them look like 12-14yo kids. This is the main reason why the work is going super slow.

So let me give u an example - meet Shirai Kuroko from To Aru Majutsu no Index anime:
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This is a game ready art, so I want to ask u guys:

Is Shirai Kuroko a loli? Should she be put into loli category or young category? If she is a loli, should ALL anime characters be put into loli category as well then?
I'd put her into the young category, mostly based on her face:head proportion, though not sure if I'm any good at judging age of someone.
You could always start a discussion on what fits in which category.

EDIT: Considering that in game loli are those too young to get pregnant, we can consider anyone 12+ looking girls to be at least young?
 
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This is a game ready art, so I want to ask u guys:

Is Shirai Kuroko a loli? Should she be put into loli category or young category? If she is a loli, should ALL anime characters be put into loli category as well then?
This girl already has signs of teenage development (height, hips, breasts, etc.), even if not very accentuated.

I think she could be considered loli if the tag were understood with the broadest definition, something like: "clearly underage and still (almost) undeveloped". In that case, this one would be on the edge of that spectrum (the oldest possible).

Otherwise, I would also say she's easier to introduce in the "young" category, but I don't know if the no-loli players would appreciate it.

Thanks for your work!
 

RedGreen3

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As u guys might know I've been making AI image pack for this game. But I greatly misjudged this game compatibility with AI, specifically 3 age categories: loli, young and milf.

It sounds super ez on paper, but in reality AI produces girls of all ages and to fit them into those 3 separate categories is almost impossible task. It all comes down to anime art and personal conception of age: for example in Japan 16yo high school student looks like 12yo middle school in USA. 12yo should be considered loli right? But then it makes 99% of all anime characters lolis since basically all of them look like 12-14yo kids. This is the main reason why the work is going super slow.

So let me give u an example - meet Shirai Kuroko from To Aru Majutsu no Index anime:
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This is a game ready art, so I want to ask u guys:

Is Shirai Kuroko a loli? Should she be put into loli category or young category? If she is a loli, should ALL anime characters be put into loli category as well then?
She might just barely fit in the young category. A sort of "upper loli" so to speak. I would still consider her loli. Maybe if she had bigger breasts? It's definitely possible to create anime characters that aren't loli, but it might be harder with AI.

By the way, do you still need help with selecting images? I can do any young or mature image and any loli image that isn't naked, semi naked, or performing a sex act.
 
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qwertyu12359

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So let me give u an example - meet Shirai Kuroko from To Aru Majutsu no Index anime:
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This is a game ready art, so I want to ask u guys:

Should she be put into loli category or young category? then?
Based on how the game currently classifies visual content, she's below young. I also think that the moderators of F95Zone would strike us with infringement of rule 7 if she were to become part of the base-game instead of being restored via an uncensored patch.

If she is a loli, should ALL anime characters be put into loli category as well
Only those that look more or less like her.

Not all manga/anime characters look like that; these wouldn't fit in lolz: 2021.png FOx_VfgaIAIExYL.jpg Mukuro_manga.jpg GHXqHR3WkAA1bY3.png .

thought this was abandoned. are people still working on it?
This was never officially abandoned, the status was added by moderators (website policy for long update times, I guess).

The plan is to complete the roadmap (almost done, though it takes a while because things tend to come up spontaneously), and to mitigate some of the difficulty/tediousness that some players recently complained about.

To be transparent though, last I've heard from ImperatorAugustus was 12 days ago, and he has the habit of noticing me when he has to leave for a week or more. It could be just a well-needed break, or something personal came up. He's the only developer left (it's not really my role and Lokplart is on a hiatus), so in the eventuality that he does not come back, the dev' version on the Git might eventually be released as is.
 

bews

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EDIT: Considering that in game loli are those too young to get pregnant, we can consider anyone 12+ looking girls to be at least young?
Based on how the game currently classifies visual content, she's below young. I also think that the moderators of F95Zone would strike us with infringement of rule 7
Can we link this together somehow and get a lore friendly decision? Bc obv Kuroko CAN get pregnant.

My original idea was to add another age category above young called "adult" or "normal" that will look older than young, but younger than milfs, but the game obv doesn't support that. So it has to be young or loli. This is why this game really sux for AI and nothing can be done about it.
 

qwertyu12359

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Can we link this together somehow and get a lore friendly decision? Bc obv Kuroko CAN get pregnant.

My original idea was to add another age category above young called "adult" or "normal" that will look older than young, but younger than milfs, but the game obv doesn't support that. So it has to be young or loli. This is why this game really sux for AI and nothing can be done about it.
Sure, your idea of a fourth age category solves the problem:

Lolz > pregnant-able > citizens > milfs (with better names of course)

Once the pack is fully done, there'll be three working age categories and one which requires extra coding. We'll try to do the extra coding as fast as possible to add the new age category. (y)
 
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faurkhas

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Hey guys,
It's been a while since I played this game. Jumped straight into the new branch, didn't see any changelog until l started luring in this thread again, so now I got some questions :p
1. What is "new background story for Saruman normal start", is it some quest or just fluff text on gamestart menu?
2. Does this new skill decline mechanic for slaver means I cannot get all my skills to S tier? Coz i tried and it drops overnight, sometimes fluctuates, and can't seem to get it higher than A on some skills.
3. Is there a way to stop/reduce this skill decline? Like if i get to white city it gets better or sth like that? Getting to Patrician didn't help.
 

RedGreen3

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Hey guys,
It's been a while since I played this game. Jumped straight into the new branch, didn't see any changelog until l started luring in this thread again, so now I got some questions :p
1. What is "new background story for Saruman normal start", is it some quest or just fluff text on gamestart menu?
2. Does this new skill decline mechanic for slaver means I cannot get all my skills to S tier? Coz i tried and it drops overnight, sometimes fluctuates, and can't seem to get it higher than A on some skills.
3. Is there a way to stop/reduce this skill decline? Like if i get to white city it gets better or sth like that? Getting to Patrician didn't help.
1. I'm pretty sure it's just fluff text.
2. It should be possible to S rank everything, but I don't play story mode, so I'm not sure.
3. Custom games on normal and hardcore have an option opt out of skill decay. Custom easy mode games don't have skill decay at all. Story mode always has skill decay. I don't think there's a way to turn it off if you're already playing a game, but I'm not sure.
 

Msirgantir

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hopefully the difficulty lowers. I used to enjoy starting from the bare minimum and working my way to peak, but kept failing
 

Trusty_Patches_lol

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1. I'm pretty sure it's just fluff text.
2. It should be possible to S rank everything, but I don't play story mode, so I'm not sure.
3. Custom games on normal and hardcore have an option opt out of skill decay. Custom easy mode games don't have skill decay at all. Story mode always has skill decay. I don't think there's a way to turn it off if you're already playing a game, but I'm not sure.
How do you turn off skill decay on Normal/Hardcore?
 

faurkhas

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May 21, 2018
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How do you turn off skill decay on Normal/Hardcore?
I think it's only possible in Custom Game when starting new game.

As u guys might know I've been making AI image pack for this game. But I greatly misjudged this game compatibility with AI, specifically 3 age categories: loli, young and milf.

It sounds super ez on paper, but in reality AI produces girls of all ages and to fit them into those 3 separate categories is almost impossible task. It all comes down to anime art and personal conception of age: for example in Japan 16yo high school student looks like 12yo middle school in USA. 12yo should be considered loli right? But then it makes 99% of all anime characters lolis since basically all of them look like 12-14yo kids. This is the main reason why the work is going super slow.

So let me give u an example - meet Shirai Kuroko from To Aru Majutsu no Index anime:
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
This is a game ready art, so I want to ask u guys:

Is Shirai Kuroko a loli? Should she be put into loli category or young category? If she is a loli, should ALL anime characters be put into loli category as well then?
For me that's exactly how loli should look like, others are too much.
 
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