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LaPein

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I do not understand why other artists do not draw such graphics?
there are some reasons, one is they just can't do it because they don't have the skills, another is that it's just not worth it because most people put quantity before quality. you can even see this in the comments here.
 

Pogo123

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there are some reasons, one is they just can't do it because they don't have the skills, another is that it's just not worth it because most people put quantity before quality. you can even see this in the comments here.
some suck in both. and it depends on what you mean with quantity cause some want more scenes in updates and others just want different/more intense scenes.

i think one key thing is also that better visuals means better programs and better render machines/better pc's. which not everyone can effort obviously.

but even many lack in quality, and those we mentioned are in the top 10%, the real problem is that the story of most games is boring (always some young guy who come into town, to his old family etc and then has like some anime dude many coincidences which lead him to fuck a few girls and mature (mother type) women) in a present timeline + many girls look like they went to plastic surgery or didnt passed puberty and are stuck in their childs body. far too few curvy hot girls in most games with tasteful bodies.
 
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Creeping Death

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there are some reasons, one is they just can't do it because they don't have the skills, another is that it's just not worth it because most people put quantity before quality. you can even see this in the comments here.
Well, if I would look at the images in an art gallery etc. yeah, quality before quantity. In a porn VN, well, most here could jerk off on some stick figures if it's a hot situation :ROFLMAO: :eek: :devilish:. In a porn VN, I personally, don't spend too much time on single images and if there is finally the one I spend a bit longer :ROFLMAO: I do not admire the perfect scenery, the rich details placed on a cupboard, the perfect lighting etc.. Hot protagonist, hot situation. Sadly, Stopers claim is not to deliver a porn VN but amazingly rendered images with sexual content which you can "play" like other ren'py games.

So maybe people get this one day, JOHN is about stunning quality of every single image and not creating a porn VN with regular output of updates. His patreons are fine with it, otherwise he wouldn't have any. So be lucky to get from time to time a new update "for free" here and jerk off on some other stuff before the complains of horny pirates annoy me.
 

MADMESS

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I'm a fan of JOHN, just like you are. Doesn't mean we should crap on others work. They really do have some nice graphics, it's fine if it's not up to your taste.
sry to be mean bro, but no, they ain't, tell them start learning some light stuff, it's basic
some of them may good at catch patrons, but they don't know shit about real artwork
 

umby

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who knows what will be the motivation for this delay now ... in the planning of every kind of work there is still an estimate of how long it takes, it is enough to simply communicate something. If I were him I wouldn't worry too much about inserting content, so now the games are made unless they decide to work on it again another month (which, in my opinion, is thinking considering that he was talking about inserting a second big alternative scene ).
 

Pogo123

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and if it was the fundraising event?
Attention! Personal opinion!:

this pic reminds of how damn GOOD she could look without make up and maybe even without glasses. I think those things let her look older and her face “thinner/older”. + even she has a nice figure I personally would love to see her with a bit more curves and a bit bigger and more realistic looking boobs.
but her face itself, the hair and skin looks damn awesome.

and yes I think too that especially NLT and DeepSleep also have superior graphics similar to JOHN.
 
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and yes I think too that especially NLT and DeepSleep also have superior graphics similar to JOHN.
i think JOHN renders are way more detailed, animation and poses look alot better than deepsleep, the only thing i dont like about john renders is the lack of realistic facial expression.
 
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mma456

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i think JOHN renders are way more detailed, animation and poses look alot better than deepsleep, the only thing i dont like about john renders is the lack of realistic facial expression.
I would say it's not the unrealistic expressions rather the unchanged faces or no transition between faces during conversation that sucks.
 
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It would be better if stoper implemented some sort of progress tracker. On the 30th he stated that finishing the update will take no more than a week. Now we're more than a week later and not a peep from him. Most likely the update will be released soon, but its not a good look regardless.
 

Pogo123

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It would be better if stoper implemented some sort of progress tracker. On the 30th he stated that finishing the update will take no more than a week. Now we're more than a week later and not a peep from him. Most likely the update will be released soon, but its not a good look regardless.
you mean something like weekly/monthly updates? that would be damn cool and usefull
 
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