VN Ren'Py Jessica O'Neil's Hard News [v0.60] [stoperArt]

[James009]

But at least in AWAM Sophia shows a great deal more uncertainty and unease with the things she's doing outside of her marriage which shows her internal struggle. Jessica, so far, hasn't shown the same which is an issue with the game since there aren't renders or lines of dialogue included to show that she too struggles with these feelings she's having and things she's doing with other people. Instead she acts like it's the most normal thing in the world to have sex with her cougar neighbour then be all lovey-dovey with her boyfriend.

we can't compare sofia and jessica here. Sofia in the AWAM has two kids, she describes herself as a happyly married woman. whereas here in JOHN, jessica and conner are in a ''living relationship'' i.e bf gf relationship. Sofia is lot older than jessica.
Jessica is just 25 yo.


Here i gave you the difference between the two game's perspective.

 

[Creeping Death]

[..] the MC having relatives in the game automatically means they have to be fuckable.

I just quoted the correct part of your statement

... and I think you are absolutely right. Girls are always moist and ready, cum always sticky and plentyull and relatives need to fuck each other. The three pillars of porn game design. If you question that you can even question our reality!!! What comes next, gravity is just an opinion?!


Just kidding, I hopefully used enough smileys to show that...

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

 

[Ignazzio]

Believable to a point. She expresses great love and affection for her man Conner, yet she can fuck her cougar neighbour and the decrepit old guy who runs the magazine stall without so much as a shred of guilt or shame, then comes back to her man like nothing happened. I mean, if she's so in love with Conner, why is she even interested in old men and other women, let alone showing an almost callous disregard for their relationship?

Irrational, emotion-driven behaviour that's totally believable. Not one of these points is something I can't imagine or I haven't heard of. As much as I don't like that in real life, it exists and is not even something really uncommon sadly. To be fair she doesn't really strike me as someone in love. But even if it was it's really hard to compare its believability to porn incest where hot mom-sister-daughter-father-brother want to bone each other. There are levels to this stuff

 

[Jubz]

Well, that's the thing, my approach to her character is that she's not struggling that much about it. She loves Conner, even if him being back is not going as she had imagined it. And she's exploring some new sensations with Heather, who's pretty chill about it, making Jessica not take it seriously either. And she hasn't done anything that serious with men to be bothered about it. She's just not a prude girl. It's the 21st century, she's not married to Conner, she can do whatever she likes.

Being free and being a whore not the same, lol. She's in relationships and if she want to fuck with someone else, she should tell about that to her partner beforehand. And if she's cheating and have almost zero struggle about that - she is average whore, not "free spirited woman from 21st century".

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

Who cares; where is it written that the game must be consistent with reality? that's fine with me

 

[px305]

hang on u guy's maybe the wait is worth it

Cant wait for another lesbian sex scene or any sex at all update.

 

[Creeping Death]

Who cares; where is it written that the game must be consistent with reality? that's fine with me

Nowhere, but a son stumbling, falling onto his yoga doing mother and accidently his cock slips inside her pussy kills my boner instantly. And I come more and more to the age where I just can't waste a boner by such stupidity (Btw girls, calm down, calm down, I am exaggerating, there will be always a boner for all of you )

P.S.: damn what do I write today, maybe because I am sober?!

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

falling onto his yoga doing mother and accidently his cock slips inside her pussy kills my boner instantly

 

[sunaboz]

Expect nothing and you won't be disappointed.

 

[kasata]

I feel like if the MC were to be a man we would not be having this argument, but then again people are anxious about the new update.

 

[stoper]

I can certainly understand that when people are dating, but when it gets to the point of living together and thoughts of marriage later on down the line, it becomes a more serious issue of cheating for me, and I guess I just like to see characters have a bit more of a moral dilemma with these sorts of things. Even if I ultimately guide Jessica towards experiences with Heather and Blake (which I do), I feel like it should give her pause to reconsider her relationship with Conner and not just carry on like everything is normal, especially if/when she begins to develop romantic feelings for someone else.

But, that's just me. It doesn't necessarily ruin this game for me in any way, I'm still a big fan of it, it's just something I personally felt was a bit off.

No, I understand your point and your preferences. I am trying to make her reflect on her (the player's) choices. But like I said, she a little more free spirited, and she still haven't done anything too serious (not counting the situation with Heather).

Being free and being a whore not the same, lol. She's in relationships and if she want to fuck with someone else, she should tell about that to her partner beforehand. And if she's cheating and have almost zero struggle about that - she is average whore, not "free spirited woman from 21st century".

What I mean is that she's not going to cry in shame for the choice you make. If you don't like her being a whore, don't make her.

 

[SweatPicle]

No, I understand your point and your preferences. I am trying to make her reflect on her (the player's) choices. But like I said, she a little more free spirited, and she still haven't done anything too serious (not counting the situation with Heather).


What I mean is that she's not going to cry in shame for the choice you make. If you don't like her being a whore, don't make her.

how is the update coming along?

 

[alexalex246]

Explain to us how that will help.
The thing that takes all the time is the art. Do you really think this guy will let someone else help with that?

If you're going to suggest a creator hire (PAY for) another person on the project, the least you can do is support the creator themselves first.

Suggesting Stoper go out his way and spend money on another artist/developer/etc is ridiculous considering he probably has one of the poorest supported Patreons compared to others with similar fan enthusiasm on this site for instance.

 

[armion82]

If you're going to suggest a creator hire (PAY for) another person on the project, the least you can do is support the creator themselves first.

Suggesting Stoper go out his way and spend money on another artist/developer/etc is ridiculous considering he probably has one of the poorest supported Patreons compared to others with similar fan enthusiasm on this site for instance.

Sadly truth.
Part of it because the game have a female MC and even bigger part on no-incest.
So anyone that can support Stoper is welcome.

 

[Jubz]

What I mean is that she's not going to cry in shame for the choice you make. If you don't like her being a whore, don't make her.

I didn't say anything about like it or not, tho. Only about how you trying to cover it.

 

[VulgarJoys]

how is the update coming along?

It's easier to go on a binge, so the time will pass quickly!
And then the release!!!

 

[Thickgravy49]

If you're going to suggest a creator hire (PAY for) another person on the project, the least you can do is support the creator themselves first.

Suggesting Stoper go out his way and spend money on another artist/developer/etc is ridiculous considering he probably has one of the poorest supported Patreons compared to others with similar fan enthusiasm on this site for instance.

How do you know that the guy who posted that isn't a patron?
Maybe he's already 'supporting the creator', as you put it.

The point I was making, if you even bothered to read my post, was that throwing more cash at the dev more than likely won't make the updates come any quicker, seeing as the visuals are the thing that take up the main bulk of the time.

For one thing, I'n sure I can remember him saying that he's going to go at his own pace, no matter what.
For another, where would he find somone who could produce renders to the same high standard?
I can't imagine Stoper wanting to give anyone else a role in producing the renders, seeing as he has arguably the best 'art' on here.

He already has a writer, as I understand it.
So how is more money going to help?
That's what I asked you.

 

[winterwolf200]

Lmao, that's just moronic.

Normal, healthy people don't want to fuck their siblings/parents/relatives... if the devs want their game/characters to reflect this reality they're not going to put incest into their games. It's asinine to suggest that the MC having relatives in the game automatically means they have to be fuckable.

Well, if you're going to say it like that then, normal, healthy people don't spend time playing computer games, they go out there and live it up. They would be out there right now, having all sorts of intercourse, socializing and whatnot. Implying otherwise would just be "moronic". Or are we to believe you are the sole authority on what is and is not normal around here?
That aside, this IS a adult game. Having such well fleshed out characters usually means they will be involved in intercourse in some way and since we're not playing Connor Jarhead's Hard News...

 

[alexalex246]

How do you know that the guy who posted that isn't a patron?
Maybe he's already 'supporting the creator', as you put it.

The point I was making, if you even bothered to read my post, was that throwing more cash at the dev more than likely won't make the updates come any quicker, seeing as the visuals are the thing that take up the main bulk of the time.

For one thing, I'n sure I can remember him saying that he's going to go at his own pace, no matter what.
For another, where would he find somone who could produce renders to the same high standard?
I can't imagine Stoper wanting to give anyone else a role in producing the renders, seeing as he has arguably the best 'art' on here.

He already has a writer, as I understand it.
So how is more money going to help?
That's what I asked you.

Did YOU bother to read any of the comments you replied to? The guy was "suggesting" Stoper just hire another artist, which is pretty ridiculous since Stoper receive a pittance compared to some of the other Devs on Patreon, despite clearly having a strong following as we approach 353 pages on this thread.

Maybe our critical friend is a supporter, but odds are low considering this is a pirating forum, filled with individuals that find any delay from creators to be unacceptable and throw out nuggets of wisdom like "go faster" and "pay money so I may have your art for free more quickly".

And for the record, I don't think hiring another artist would be particularly helpful, Stoper is clearly talented and would likely struggle to find an equal who would work on the project.