AhoyLaddies

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Ah, yeap, getting a coder to optimise stuff, most of the code runs on what I could learn in 2 weeks, the updates popping up every 2 weeks and the details/work I need to prep, it might be time to leave it to the pros. Sorry for the shameful display.
Don't bang yourself up too much. Coding can be really tough and making a game is even harder.
I don't doubt for a second you would be able to find someone to help you out with the project. You've probably learned a lot over the course of the game's development already. It's just that, I imagine having someone who already knows their way around the place would go a long way to helping you become a better programmer/developer. It's not about leaving it up to someone else(though there is nothing wrong with doing that if your specialty lies elsewhere), but learning from someone else.

Have you looked into getting on another programmer to assist you?
 

llDante

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Ah, it's not an issue of "how hard is it to put it in", it's more of a thing where people were complaining that there was too much text in the sex scenes and they "are here to watch porn not read a book", so I made it shorter instead. Though if there is interest, I can add in more dialogue during the scenes for the girls!
That's quite a shame but i understand, i for one would like to have a little more dialogue, i like the interactions between the characters, but i don't think you would need to add much more text, because if you increase too much it would end up repeating phrases and that's not good as well, so if you could keep the scenes similar to the scene with sakura "use toy on her" (when the control level and lust were high) would be perfect, that scene had a good balance of descriptions and dialogue between the characters, so the interaction was quite good and since it also had dialogue after each choice you made it also helped a lot to make your choices actually change something in the interaction even if it's something minor, it was also a short scene so i don't think many people would complain about that, and the finishing dialogue in the climax was good as well, that scene is the perfect example of what i was trying to say. Well this is just my tastes, and i think it would improve the game a little though other people might disagree, either way i like the game as it is as well, so whatever you guys decide i'll roll with it.
 

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That's quite a shame but i understand, i for one would like to have a little more dialogue, i like the interactions between the characters, but i don't think you would need to add much more text, because if you increase too much it would end up repeating phrases and that's not good as well, so if you could keep the scenes similar to the scene with sakura "use toy on her" (when the control level and lust were high) would be perfect, that scene had a good balance of descriptions and dialogue between the characters, so the interaction was quite good and since it also had dialogue after each choice you made it also helped a lot to make your choices actually change something in the interaction even if it's something minor, it was also a short scene so i don't think many people would complain about that, and the finishing dialogue in the climax was good as well, that scene is the perfect example of what i was trying to say. Well this is just my tastes, and i think it would improve the game a little though other people might disagree, either way i like the game as it is as well, so whatever you guys decide i'll roll with it.
huh, wouldn't a possible alternative, albeit a more difficult road, would be a 'text patch' (yes I am aware that would take more time since would have to make the lesser version first then add to it for the added text variation) that makes more talkative options available in certain scenes since it boils down to taste, some people like a fair bit of dialogue, some prefer more of just getting to the fun as quickly as possible, its why things like CoC (a game that is 99% text) and monster girl quest can thrive just as well as your average porn game.

but, in the end, it is not the audiences call if more text is added, it is the creators since I am aware it would probably be more efficient to just stick with just one school of thought since adding a text patch would just add more unnecessary workload since you would be essentially writing two different dialogues for the same thing.
 
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Ah, it's not an issue of "how hard is it to put it in", it's more of a thing where people were complaining that there was too much text in the sex scenes and they "are here to watch porn not read a book", so I made it shorter instead. Though if there is interest, I can add in more dialogue during the scenes for the girls!
What about something like Rogue-like Evolution, where the player can turn it on or off?
In the options to change how the girls behave, not just change their name for you and if they can masturbate, but how talkative they are (when their mind is not sealed).
 
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0.18b changelog
Not much changed.
Jikage Rising v0.18b (a.k.a end of arc 1) Patron release

UPDATE: Heya guys, as promised, here's the bug fixed version! Not too many bugs this time, I fixed the old error where one of the training added the wrong stat, as well as some spelling errors. I also added the new scenes into the gallery, if they don't appear for you, just play the scene again and it should trigger! Not too big of a bug fix, so it's not essential to update it if nothing happened to you in v0.18a!
 

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Don't bang yourself up too much. Coding can be really tough and making a game is even harder.
I don't doubt for a second you would be able to find someone to help you out with the project. You've probably learned a lot over the course of the game's development already. It's just that, I imagine having someone who already knows their way around the place would go a long way to helping you become a better programmer/developer. It's not about leaving it up to someone else(though there is nothing wrong with doing that if your specialty lies elsewhere), but learning from someone else.

Have you looked into getting on another programmer to assist you?
Ah yeap! Currently someone is looking into it! There might be some overhauls that might render old saves unusable unfortunately, but the game should run a tad smoother!

That's quite a shame but i understand, i for one would like to have a little more dialogue, i like the interactions between the characters, but i don't think you would need to add much more text, because if you increase too much it would end up repeating phrases and that's not good as well, so if you could keep the scenes similar to the scene with sakura "use toy on her" (when the control level and lust were high) would be perfect, that scene had a good balance of descriptions and dialogue between the characters, so the interaction was quite good and since it also had dialogue after each choice you made it also helped a lot to make your choices actually change something in the interaction even if it's something minor, it was also a short scene so i don't think many people would complain about that, and the finishing dialogue in the climax was good as well, that scene is the perfect example of what i was trying to say. Well this is just my tastes, and i think it would improve the game a little though other people might disagree, either way i like the game as it is as well, so whatever you guys decide i'll roll with it.
huh, wouldn't a possible alternative, albeit a more difficult road, would be a 'text patch' (yes I am aware that would take more time since would have to make the lesser version first then add to it for the added text variation) that makes more talkative options available in certain scenes since it boils down to taste, some people like a fair bit of dialogue, some prefer more of just getting to the fun as quickly as possible, its why things like CoC (a game that is 99% text) and monster girl quest can thrive just as well as your average porn game.

but, in the end, it is not the audiences call if more text is added, it is the creators since I am aware it would probably be more efficient to just stick with just one school of thought since adding a text patch would just add more unnecessary workload since you would be essentially writing two different dialogues for the same thing.
What about something like Rogue-like Evolution, where the player can turn it on or off?
In the options to change how the girls behave, not just change their name for you and if they can masturbate, but how talkative they are (when their mind is not sealed).
That would be a possibility, with the additional budget we received, I'll probably get a coder to deal with most of the coding, and I'll be able to get more time in plotting the timeline, dialogues and events. I can't promise anything for now, but I'll definitely look into it!

Saying something "is bad" is criticism. It's not constructive criticism, but it's criticism nonetheless. I literally used an anecdote to explain my dislike and what I am disliking, and then pointed at another work that I used as comparison to explain the lack of passion behind this "Jikage Rising" game. Your point about "you cannot say anything if you can't do it better", and the whole paragraph after that is unneeded since I can do it better, I work professionally as an artist. I don't need to be polite to get my point across, if your definition of being polite is to stuff the whole argument like a turkey in fluff then I'd rather do the opposite. There is nothing that I enjoyed about the game, the review I made explains that. If I had to explain each and every single point that is wrong about the game in both the art and programming section, I'd be here all day writing up a professional critique that I feel this game doesn't deserve from the zero ounce of passion I observed.
I'm sorry that it was unenjoyable for you, but perhaps it might be best if I explained by choices.

On the animation, it was done using something called Live2D, I purposely didn't went with the drawn frames because personally I felt that frame by frame drawings looking pretty clunky, especially when you run it through an engine meant for visual novels as compared to playing a video. So personally to me, getting a frame by frame animation as you mentioned in your rating:
The animation is all done by transforming a still image, there is no new frame or anything.
would cost more, take up more space as well as act not as smooth as what we have currently. I would have to defend my artist here by saying that a lot of work goes into prepping the PSD file for Live2D animation.

As for the scenes, not sure what you mean by this part as depending on you control over the character, their expressions will change accordingly along with the text. Which I had hoped would bring some variation for the players. The variance is further increased according to the amount of lust they have, which would sometimes lead to some differences in the ending scenes, as well as if you used the option to seal their minds during scenes. When I planned this out, I made it so that you would be able to reach the next level of control by going through every variation once, sometimes less.

As for the main character's room and some of the backgrounds, I really doubt anyone cares what the background in a porn game looks like.

Though I would have to admit that the differences in art style is an issue, I tried to keep the artist consistent but considering that we don't have too much leg room with releases for our games coming out every other week, I sometimes would have to seek external help for the scenes. For that, I apologise if it ruined your experience.
 
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Ah, crap, sorry about that, forgot to mention this!
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We did some rework on the old sprites as per suggestions from you guys! The sprite for Hinata and Tenten is also pretty much done! You can view the sprites here and let us know what you think needs to be tweaked and we'll try out best to meet expectations!



Though we should mention that we will probably not be able to please everyone, so we'll go with the option that most of you voted for/ feedbacked on!
 

llDante

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huh, wouldn't a possible alternative, albeit a more difficult road, would be a 'text patch' (yes I am aware that would take more time since would have to make the lesser version first then add to it for the added text variation) that makes more talkative options available in certain scenes since it boils down to taste, some people like a fair bit of dialogue, some prefer more of just getting to the fun as quickly as possible, its why things like CoC (a game that is 99% text) and monster girl quest can thrive just as well as your average porn game.

but, in the end, it is not the audiences call if more text is added, it is the creators since I am aware it would probably be more efficient to just stick with just one school of thought since adding a text patch would just add more unnecessary workload since you would be essentially writing two different dialogues for the same thing.
I completely agree, it should be the decision of the creators, even if i understand that they want to please the majority of the fans, which is not bad as well since people can give good advices to improve the game after all, that's why i said i would roll with whatever they decided, but i honestly don't understand why people complain about the text, i can understand when the text is copy and pasted to almost all scenes (there are quite a few games like this, like something unlimited, i love the game, but it makes you see the same scene 2 or 3 times to advance and almost 90% of the text in the scene is copy pasted from the scene before that, it's annoying after sometime and i just skip the whole thing), but this is in essence a visual novel, it's in the name "novel", there must be text in it, if you want just images, you can go see a few images, gifs or videos in the internet, there are thousands of it, even more so about naruto, there is no point coming to complain about text in a visual novel, but well each people have their own opinion so a compromise is good as well.
 

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Will you guys create a discord server? I hope you do, it would make it easier and its a good game
theres already a discord for doggos games, just check the op on page one its listed in the developer section next to links to his patreon and subscribestar
 

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Oh, that's weird, did the pictures of the girls get highlighted when you moved your mouse over them?

Also a quick side note, I can't post this on the public page on Patreon due to their rules so I'm posting it everything I can so that more people can give their feedback on this!

Updated Sakura sprite:
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Updated Ino sprite:
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Let me know if there's anything you guys think need fixing yeah and I'll ask the artist to get it done asap!
i actually liked the old art better, but that's just me, still trying to figure out how to collect the hidden outfit for the girls . .
 

llDante

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i actually liked the old art better, but that's just me, still trying to figure out how to collect the hidden outfit for the girls . .
There is a walkthrough in the first page that show how to get all outfits, one type you get at random when you visit the girls to talk, i think you need a certain level of control to trigger the scene, but the girl must not be with high lust or you will simply trigger the high lust scene and the other type of outfit you get when you unlock a few things in the stadium, in there you will get the option to buy some boxes, each type of box belong to a specific girl, you just keep buying the same box until you get the outfit and start buying the other ones after that, and i think if you pimp Ino to the guy who sells the boxes, the chance to get the outfit from the boxes increase.
 

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Yup, anyone either replying and/or quotting had their post removed

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i wish those notices would tell us what message was removed instead of just where it was removed cause if somethin i say gets removed id like to know what so i know what exactly i said wrong, only reason i knew in this case was cause i wanted to see how many more facepalms that guy got and couldn't find the message so i knew it was probably deleted and that that's was what my removed message was about
 

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Ah, crap, sorry about that, forgot to mention this!
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We did some rework on the old sprites as per suggestions from you guys! The sprite for Hinata and Tenten is also pretty much done! You can view the sprites here and let us know what you think needs to be tweaked and we'll try out best to meet expectations!



Though we should mention that we will probably not be able to please everyone, so we'll go with the option that most of you voted for/ feedbacked on!
One thing I will say about the new artwork there is that the necks seem unnaturally long. I don't suppose your able to give an estimate on when the new update will be on here, appreciate you doing bug fixes and all first of course.
 
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One thing I will say about the new artwork there is that the necks seem unnaturally long. I don't suppose your able to give an estimate on when the new update will be on here, appreciate you doing bug fixes and all first of course.
He said 1st weekend of each month iirc, wait that's this weekend.
 
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