Believe me with the new model version I try to do better with that but I am struggling to finder a proper morph that keeps the legs together and doesn't mess with other things.
Does not 'look' like a man with a harem? Historically guys that had multiple lovers at the same time usually had them for 2 reasons: money and power. Looks had nothing to do with it. More recently, you can throw fame into the mix, but even then you don't see many women putting up with 'other' women in the mix unless there's money/power in it.
In this case, the guy has some sort of magical power, in which case it doesn't matter what he looks like, unless you are trying to make yourself attracted to the MC.
So I tried the game in the original version (v0.1) and the non-porn actress version (v0.12) and here is what I think.
First, it would fit better if Veronica would be an aunt and Valerie a cousin because a scenario of them not seeing each other for years is more plausible that way, also from the line that the MC and Valerie will both start College in the same year I assume they are the same age and that is more believable if they are cousins instead of siblings.
Second, even with the changes in v0.12, I'm still not a fan of Veronica being a former Playboy model and when it comes to Valerie that is probably just me but I think in an incest game sisters/cousins should be virgins.
Third, the MC is terrible, he looks like he doesn't have a single muscle in his body, he is written as a stupid 12-year old that has never seen a naked woman and he is already lying to the girls to come across as the cool guy. Most of the scenes when he explores the city are just bad clichés.
At the moment the only good thing about the game is the "good" looking models (the ratio between tits, waist, and hips is a bit much).
Also, Valerie looks almost the same age as Veronica.
First, it would fit better if Veronica would be an aunt and Valerie a cousin because a scenario of them not seeing each other for years is more plausible that way, also from the line that the MC and Valerie will both start College in the same year I assume they are the same age and that is more believable if they are cousins instead of siblings.
Second, even with the changes in v0.12, I'm still not a fan of Veronica being a former Playboy model and when it comes to Valerie that is probably just me but I think in an incest game sisters/cousins should be virgins.
Third, the MC is terrible, he looks like he doesn't have a single muscle in his body, he is written as a stupid 12-year old that has never seen a naked woman and he is already lying to the girls to come across as the cool guy. Most of the scenes when he explores the city are just bad clichés.
At the moment the only good thing about the game is the "good" looking models (the ratio between tits, waist, and hips is a bit much).
Also, Valerie looks almost the same age as Veronica.
First: I am genuinely on the fence between the mom/sister or aunt/cousin thing. It's something I have to think about changing. I don't care if I have to make two different versions and see what people like of the two. I just feel pretty indifferent towards them. Also I haven't played it in awhile but isn't F.I.L.F similar in the way that the MC hasn't seen his mom in awhile?
Second: I really like the former Playboy model idea better than the porn actress because it allows Veronica to have a sensual past and a conflict is whether she wants to "re-live it" per say or move on from it. I wasn't sure what to do with the ages with them whether they are fraternal twins, older brother or older sister. That is something I may change in the future.
Third: For the MC I wanted him to be more awkward in the beginning/sheltered and then because of the "task" given to him by Juno, he will become more confident, he will get in better shape after working out with Lia and Natalya, etc... so he will progress as the story goes. With the bad cliches, I'll admit I don't have a great writing style by any means and I am trying to work on it but I just wanted to make characters' interactions were distinct in a way so that you have to approach them differently as the story goes forward.
Lastly the models: I have edited all the models shapes to not be as overdone (I was surprised looking back at how exaggerated their features were). Also I made Valerie look much younger while still keeping her face shape the same.
The mom/sister is more popular but I think in your setting it works better with aunt/cousin because it is not unheard of but unlikely that the mom wouldn't visit her son at least a few times a year.
F.I.L.F I know of the game I tried the very first release didn't like the models, that it is made in Unity, and the sandbox.
I never like it when a LI is/was any kind of sex worker and while the playboy model is better than a pornstar I would prefer her to be a fashion model or just have a regular good paying job.
The ages of the MC and Valerie as you already said if they are the same age they need to be twins or cousins.
As a self inserting player I never liked this type of MC, it is difficult enough to play manlet MCs and if they also act stupid as fuck it is often a deal-breaker for me.
Also what's with the MC stays with them for the summer and then goes away to attend college, I never liked this because where is the point in having all the girls fall for the MC and then leave them behind anyway, I would write it like this, after staying a while and having the relationships with Veronica and Valerie start he decides to stay with them and just go to a college close to them.
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I agree with it Mom/sister doesn't fit their are too many things come into play e.x- her being away, difference valerie and Mc Aunt/cousin makes sense
F.I.L.F is made in renpy
don't think it matters it's not like she is still doing it also it's just a game
Well the game hasn't end yet so have wait and see.
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Flirty F?
I think that's the VN you're thinking about
Sandbox and unity and close enough name.
Yeah, sorry that was a mistake, you are right I was thinking of Flirty F, but F.I.L.F is a sandbox which I don't like and I'm also not a big fan of the models used in that game.
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He probably didn't like the first option.
The only way to have NTR is not to have NTR and just follow the right path and never have the bad.
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I had to replay after Juno's grand appearance just to see if the Dev was lying...
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Good stuff!
Yes someone found it, I thought the library one was the harder one to spot but you got it
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hahaa that's awesome! Thanks jojozz for these kinds of details!
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Developers seem to frequently make the mistake of taking a half measure to fix something that they come to realize that potential patrons don't like. In this case he had the porn star mom and had 8 patrons. He got comments so he changed it. Instead of making her an ordinary model, he made her a Playboy Playmate. He now has 15 patrons. He might end up with a few more by the time all the Patreon subscribers whose payments did not process re-subscribe, but it's still not a good showing.
I understand the concern of "oh I'll get more subscribers if I do X even though I had Y" but genuinely it was a suggestion I think made sense from a story-telling sense. And the suggestion came from here, which probably will have people playing for free and not subscribing which is the nature of it. And I will eventually release the version updates here, so you don't have to support me if you don't want to.
I feel like most people STILL don't like Playboy Model idea but I ended up liking it, it matches both ends of a more sensual side without being a women who slept with 50+ people. Before I made a patreon I was taking people's feedback, I like feedback.
Anyways I have 15 subscribers but made less money so far lol since people re-subscribed at a lower cost, so it has nothing to do with the financial end of things. I could be wrong but I am sure the playboy model change did not play that significant of role in my patron count. That's my rant, I just felt like I wanted to clear it up.
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That was my point, making her a playboy model did not significantly help your patron count; taking her out of the "sex industry" altogether would have had a greater impact. Lots of developers do the same thing. Patrons complain about a specific aspect of the game. Instead of changing that aspect in total, they make a half measure change. Patrons complain that an LI gets raped by three men at the beginning of the game so the developer changes to one rapist. What's the point? Either change it or don't. I could have made my post in a couple of dozen game threads. I picked yours because I started tracking your patron count back when you had 8 subscribers. I have an interest on how games with specific content perform. When your original story came out and Mom was a former porn star, I was interested in how that content choice would affect your income. I am still interested because you decided to make her a playmate instead. We'll see how that pans out.
I feel as if the over-arching story, whether there are animations, the quality of the renders, the amount of the renders, etc... would affect patron count more so than Veronica's background. I guess, in my personal opinion, I thought a playmate was a good degree of separation from a pornstar, since they don't involve a physical partner who is having sex with them. Also I liked the playmate idea because of the various "sexy" costume ideas where is a normal model wouldn't wear those. Sorry for the initial misunderstanding.