88Michele88

Bloodborn Vampire
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On version 0.5 (public) you could see the controls on the main menu, on the latest version (patreon) you can see the controls in real time on your screen:

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The 0.6 is also more stable. The combat mechanics are also completely different than it was on v0.5.





The public version can only save your character customisation, but the save system is in development on the private one. On the current private version, you can save your last checkpoint location, level and attributes, the only thing missing is the inventory and keeping the enemies that you killed dead (they are respawning). We will push a patch soon on this version with the save system fully functional.
We release the public versions when we have a new number after the "0", so if the current public version is the 0.5.1, when we release the 0.7.0, the version 0.6.2 will be available for everyone. Then you will have a save system fully functional =)
Can you make this game in renpy engine. Thins is too big and I prefer Renpy engine.
 

Kalyskah

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Can you make this game in renpy engine. Thins is too big and I prefer Renpy engine.
Combat is one of the core parts of our game, I think it would be very hard for us to strip the game from it and make a renpy game out of it:

And we also have cutscenes, like the one we are working on for the new prologue:


But I have good news!
We plan to make a side-story of Kalyskah on her first weeks as a vampire, and this will be a renpy game. Since we'll work on the side project on the first days of the month, while waiting for the voice actors to record their scripts or animators to finish things that will go to the engine at the end of the month.
 

88Michele88

Bloodborn Vampire
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Combat is one of the core parts of our game, I think it would be very hard for us to strip the game from it and make a renpy game out of it:

And we also have cutscenes, like the one we are working on for the new prologue:


But I have good news!
We plan to make a side-story of Kalyskah on her first weeks as a vampire, and this will be a renpy game. Since we'll work on the side project on the first days of the month, while waiting for the voice actors to record their scripts or animators to finish things that will go to the engine at the end of the month.
Cool

Well I gonna try it out. Is there any compressed version of this game yet?
 
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SpecterX

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Are sex scenes avoidable?
Is it possible to play this game as a lesbian and avoid any male/female content?
 

88Michele88

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Sorry, I didn't formulate it clearly but they are both distinct questions about that part of the game.
You said you don't want sex non of them, in both questions. It mean you don't want sex at all. Even in lesbian pplaytrough. I non of them male and female ain't involbet in Lesbian. it mean you don't want sex at all. :rolleyes:
 
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SpecterX

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You said you don't want sex non of them, in both questions. It mean you don't want sex at all. Even in lesbian pplaytrough. I non of them male and female ain't involbet in Lesbian. it mean you don't want sex at all. :rolleyes:
My bad then, I first wanted to know if all sex is avoidable. And then if it was possible to play strictly as lesbian (by male/female I wanted to say straight)
 

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I wish the devs the best with this but it's a real shame, I think, that all these massive 3D projects like Kalyskah, Carnal Instinct, Wild Life et al seem focused on replicating all the most expensive and difficult technical parts of big-budget 3D action games - something which is understandably *hard* for them to do - and tacking on sexuality as an afterthought (in terms of game design & richness of mechanics), instead of using 3D engines and skilled programmers to make a game where the sex itself, along with sexual situations and interpersonal dynamics, has more depth and interactivity - something which *only* porn devs can do. That interactivity is the one thing games can do that other porn mediums can't. Basically no game has done this right yet: they either have interesting simulation of horniness / personal closeness / reputation etc and terrible scripted sex scenes with no replay value that don't meaningfully change based on the characters' feelings / context etc, or they're essentially a linear movie/novel with some cursory buttons in between. It's such a waste to have artists and coders capable of smoothly animating a vampire turning into a swarm of bats, and not use those capabilities for simulating sex-related things like dynamic per-character moods, lust, erections, bodily fluids, clothes, physics, more complex sex AI programming that makes characters have a concept of mind; to try to communicate & please each other, change positions and use scenery non-discretely/dynamically, let players make meaningful decisions about what happens in sex etc. Almost every game treats sex as either a finite-state automaton or a 1-dimensional physics simulation of a dick at some percentage of "inside" an orifice.

I remember there was a Flash game called "Rack" that made some very early attempts in this direction (such as characters having lots of different sexual preferences, like getting aroused by seeing other characters next to them get aroused) but none of the modern big-budget stuff has tried anything similar. The Illusion games have a pretty robust character creator and then the thinnest possible veneer of gameplay draped over that. Carnal Instinct has like 4 different sets of melee weapon animations but you can't move the camera during sex scenes...

I think this VN spinoff is making that same mistake again, just in the other direction.
 
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ConejoSSJ

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We are aware of this issue and we are working on fixing it. Basically redoing a lot of structures from scratch to make sure the game will run better on most PCs. We plan to release a patch addressing this something around august or September.
Does the patch have a release date so I can download it? is that I get stuck in that part and I can no longer move forward
 

Kalyskah

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I wish the devs the best with this but it's a real shame, I think, that all these massive 3D projects like Kalyskah, Carnal Instinct, Wild Life et al seem focused on replicating all the most expensive and difficult technical parts of big-budget 3D action games - something which is understandably *hard* for them to do - and tacking on sexuality as an afterthought (in terms of game design & richness of mechanics), instead of using 3D engines and skilled programmers to make a game where the sex itself, along with sexual situations and interpersonal dynamics, has more depth and interactivity - something which *only* porn devs can do. That interactivity is the one thing games can do that other porn mediums can't. Basically no game has done this right yet: they either have interesting simulation of horniness / personal closeness / reputation etc and terrible scripted sex scenes with no replay value that don't meaningfully change based on the characters' feelings / context etc, or they're essentially a linear movie/novel with some cursory buttons in between. It's such a waste to have artists and coders capable of smoothly animating a vampire turning into a swarm of bats, and not use those capabilities for simulating sex-related things like dynamic per-character moods, lust, erections, bodily fluids, clothes, physics, more complex sex AI programming that makes characters have a concept of mind; to try to communicate & please each other, change positions and use scenery non-discretely/dynamically, let players make meaningful decisions about what happens in sex etc. Almost every game treats sex as either a finite-state automaton or a 1-dimensional physics simulation of a dick at some percentage of "inside" an orifice.

I remember there was a Flash game called "Rack" that made some very early attempts in this direction (such as characters having lots of different sexual preferences, like getting aroused by seeing other characters next to them get aroused) but none of the modern big-budget stuff has tried anything similar. The Illusion games have a pretty robust character creator and then the thinnest possible veneer of gameplay draped over that. Carnal Instinct has like 4 different sets of melee weapon animations but you can't move the camera during sex scenes...

I think this VN spinoff is making that same mistake again, just in the other direction.
I get where you're coming from, and in part, I believe you are right on the side that with Kalyskah we are not aiming to make a porn game, but an RPG that uses erotism to give the writers more freedom on how Kalyskah will approach her situations. Now regarding body fluids and so on, Wild Life does an amazing job with that with interactive cum effects and I highly recommend you to play it. We can't afford to have this on our game with our current budget because it's something a VFX artist works on, not an animator.
Now about the interactiveness of the sex scenes, we do plan on making NPCs personalities matter when it comes to the actions and animation loops they will play. If you check our gallery, you can see that the idea is already being sketched with the arousal and stamina system, but at the current moment, it's still in baby steps. So I would say "stay tuned" because give us a year and I believe this part will be ironed out, but again, we'll always be trying to have good context to the scenes because I believe this is what makes them hot, you know? Not the actual scene itself but the build-up until we finally reach this part. And the build-up is something we can work on more on the writing than on the visuals.
Because, let's be honest, it doesn't matter how many animations we add to the game. After a few interactions, the player will be a bit tired of them. But the story? If people are always discovering and wanting for more, they won't feel it is repetitive. Even if the animations are repetitive, the whole build-up and context up until the point that the animation reaches that part will be different.
Example: One thing is having Kalyskah sucking a cock for the 5th time because she wants to seduce a bandit to avoid trouble. Another whole different thing is she trying to enter a town that might have a slice of her power, seeing a guard that doesn't want to let her in and because she wants to avoid being caught as something supernatural, she goes there and gives him a blowjob, pretending to be just a weak lady so no one can be suspicious or pay too much attention to her actions as she stays there. Then we have this situation where a mighty vampire that used to be a leader of a whole army is now on her knees, sucking a guard of a town she doesn't know, and the guard has the gall to slap her in the face and call her slut.... And she just swallows her pride despite being capable of stopping it and murdering him at any point.
The visuals for both scenes I described can be the same, but in the end, the second one will probably be the sexiest because the player will care more when it happens. This is one of the reasons why we invest so much more into context.

Does the patch have a release date so I can download it? is that I get stuck in that part and I can no longer move forward
We imagine that it might be released around the end of September or the beginning of October. And by then, we'll keep both versions uploaded on itch because the former has more quests, and the new one will take a while until we re-add everything.
 

ConejoSSJ

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Will the game have the language added to Spanish one day? is that the truth is that I do not understand anything that I have to do because I do not read English, many games ignore it because they do not put the language that follows after English, many people speak Spanish, and we play, but not many of us understand even using a translator, because it is difficult to turn on the cell phone from time to time just to translate something that some applications do not translate, the game really has great potential, I have seen really amazing things and the game is very good
 

Kalyskah

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Will the game have the language added to Spanish one day? is that the truth is that I do not understand anything that I have to do because I do not read English, many games ignore it because they do not put the language that follows after English, many people speak Spanish, and we play, but not many of us understand even using a translator, because it is difficult to turn on the cell phone from time to time just to translate something that some applications do not translate, the game really has great potential, I have seen really amazing things and the game is very good
We can't say for sure because translating a game is a really heavy task and on our current budget's reality, it's not something we can afford. But we have plans to translate the game in case this reality changes one day. The first language to receive a translation would probably be Portuguese though, since I'm Brazilian.

When we can expect the new version to be public? The latest one is 0.20.5b right?
The latest version is 0.19.4. The next public update might be happening in September but it won't overwrite the old one until we re-add all the quests from the old one into the new world. We are taking our time before the release public release because the performance of the former game was terrible for several people and we are basically rebuilding the whole programming and level design whilst keeping the quests, voice lines, etc.
This will take time, but I can assure you that it will be worth the wait since our audience will have a far much better experience once it's done.
 
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