VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.1 Part I] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[TessSadist]

Yes for clarification I started on Oct 24th -- so January 24th was 3 months out. (I took a small break after finishing 0.5)

I can't spoil the three people (Kane, Olivia, Seth) quite yet. They are all there for different reasons of course. The ability of Seth to decide (or not) may be dictated by what happens by choices.

I am including just for as an appreciation for support a few of the images I did from two sets for January, about 54 images I think total. One set was gentler (office) one a little darker (graveyard)

 

[Mograx]

My god..

 

[Kxca]

Elena looking stunning in that all red get-up, with glasses and especially the necklace !!

 

[mesolonely]

Hope there will be more femdom content between the MC and his sister in the next update!

 

[Canto Forte]

That is slave dom and it has nothing to do with actual kinks, but pure desolation and demention.
The good is MC actually rising through the ranks in this gulag/extermination camp remodel.

 

[☆Jonathan Wick♤]

It's a femdom world this vn is set in. The dev was awesome to give us, that are into maledom, a fully beautiful full route of it. However, that doesn't change the fact of the world In which the vn takes place.

Some of your questions are not meant to know yet or at leastIMOmoment IMO meant to be discovered by playing, imoIMO.

You know, now that I was thinking a bit about what you said about that we have a beautiful route for those of us who enjoy the maledom content more, but if we were to really analyze said route, we can see how most of the sexualthemoment scenes or situations of Kane are quite vanilla and very little hardcore maledom scenes, even if we have opted to be harmful/evil.

In short, at least for me at the moment we should call the route where Kane avoids being dominated/humiliated and goes up the rankings the route of cunning/intelligence since at the moment we have not seen Kane have proper maledom content that resembles just a little what Olivia can be.

So I am quite worried if fans of hardcore maledom contain we will be able to enjoy that content abundantly in the future, since at the moment it feels lacking.

 

[TessSadist]

My god..

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The office scene was voted on by more Patrons (all tiers), the graveyard scene was voted on by higher tiers ($15+) only, which kind of makes sense to me given what I have learned about them so far. Of course, these are non-canon and only fantasy scenes not in the actual game. My biggest supporters (I define this as $40+ Patrons - about 15 of them) tend to lean a bit darker/harder femdom more than anything else.

The maledom Patrons I talk to a lot (I don't have a lot, but a few) seem much more into scenes like Phoebe's scene in 0.5 (having sex the way he did) versus what I expected at first (more BDSM type stuff). I'm super locked into narrative/story and will not change anything much, but for kink scenes have always been more flexible, so we'll see how it goes.

 

[TessSadist]

That is slave dom and it has nothing to do with actual kinks, but pure desolation and demention.
The good is MC actually rising through the ranks in this gulag/extermination camp remodel.

Don't share this kink at all, but it seems slave dom (even pretty harsh stuff) itself for some people is a kink. So I would speculate that it's your personal distaste for it causing you to mentally conclude it's "nothing to do with actual kinks" versus what it might objectively mean for other people. I've learned that some people just like what they like.

Just like for me, I can't easily consider lolidom a kink because of my visceral reaction, but I intellectually accept that for others, it's a kink that some enjoy. The strongest evidence of this kind of harsh slave dom (being in the graveyard at least) being a kink (at least for some of my Patrons) is that they voted on this scene out of ten options. (so they had nine other choices that were quite different, so someone certainly enjoys it) I would say about 50% of my kink scenes are things I don't like personally, but I do them given the flow of the narrative/story/characters. I know most devs tend to write their own personal kinks quite a bit, but I kind of don't actually...biggest examples at least in traditional femdom are pegging and watersports. I have no personal interest in either, but a lot of people enjoy them.

 

[Mograx]

The office scene was voted on by more Patrons (all tiers), the graveyard scene was voted on by higher tiers ($15+) only, which kind of makes sense to me given what I have learned about them so far. Of course, these are non-canon and only fantasy scenes not in the actual game. My biggest supporters (I define this as $40+ Patrons - about 15 of them) tend to lean a bit darker/harder femdom more than anything else.

The maledom Patrons I talk to a lot (I don't have a lot, but a few) seem much more into scenes like Phoebe's scene in 0.5 (having sex the way he did) versus what I expected at first (more BDSM type stuff). I'm super locked into narrative/story and will not change anything much, but for kink scenes have always been more flexible, so we'll see how it goes.

Yeah I understand, I know how it goes, didn't mean to express anything more than just a silly shitpost. I enjoy the fan-motivated renders, and trust the story you craft will be execellent.

It was just.. seeing Kane in a coffin in a shallow-dug grave as the girls torment and mock his seemingly imminent demise just.. caught me a bit off guard is all lmao.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

OMG is that the death box from episode 1?

 

[TessSadist]

Yeah I understand, I know how it goes, didn't mean to express anything more than just a silly shitpost. I enjoy the fan-motivated renders, and trust the story you craft will be execellent.

It was just.. seeing Kane in a coffin in a shallow-dug grave as the girls torment and mock his seemingly imminent demise just.. caught me a bit off guard is all lmao.

I was shocked that option won to be honest -- I was so sure another one was going to win. Sometimes I am very wrong! A fair amount of the ideas are directly submitted by Patrons to me so you get some very unique ideas.

 

[LAKueiJin]

That is slave dom and it has nothing to do with actual kinks, but pure desolation and demention.

There are a lot of "actual kinks" in this game, so you're plain wrong about that part. There also is plenty of desolation and depressing material, as the game is set in a dystopian future where rich families, like the Karlsson group, can pretty much defy any authority, make their own laws, and do virtually anything to powerless poor people regardless of their gender or sexual orientation - it's a dystopian setting for sure, but if you're feeling depressed or like dark content will preclude you form actually enjoying the kinks/erotic scenes, then nobody is forcing you to play it...

The good is MC actually rising through the ranks in this gulag/extermination camp remodel.

So, you're ok with gulags or extermination camps if it's a male character that's at the top of it? If that's the case and your critique of the game is not genuinely about the dystopian nature of its world, but just about you liking maledom and hating femdom, then you're free to see yourself out of here and nobody'll be stopping or missing you...

This is also a subjective and inaccurate statement - the Karlsson group could become less unethical of a state-like corportion if MC takes over at the end, but it could also become much worse, as both MC and his sister are characters defined by the player's choices who can wind up on a moral scale anywhere between selfless paragons of virtue with a golden halo over their heads that just get a little bit kinkier due to the program to self-aggrandizing tyrannts that get off to the death, torture and suffering of others, so there's nothing inherently "good" or "bad" about MC or his sister taking over. (it depends entirely on how you play them) Of the characters whose personalities are more set in stone, probably supporting Dominique is your best bet if you want the company to reform in an ethical direction.

 

[LAKueiJin]

In short, at least for me at the moment we should call the route where Kane avoids being dominated/humiliated and goes up the rankings the route of cunning/intelligence since at the moment we have not seen Kane have proper maledom content that resembles just a little what Olivia can be.

So I am quite worried if fans of hardcore maledom contain we will be able to enjoy that content abundantly in the future, since at the moment it feels lacking.

It is a maledom route though, (even if a soft one) not the "cunning/intelligence" route, as he can also be a cunning and intelligent submissive who helps prop up either his own sister or one of the official Karlsson sisters... Associating cunning and intelligence solely with dominant behaviour is an irrational ablelist tendency that even some devs have, and I don't necessarily think you truly believe that intelligence is solely the prerogative of dominant people, but your post very much implies it... (because you declare the soft maledom route to be "the cunning/intelligence route", not just a cunning/intelligence route)

 

[KekWGgWP]

You know, now that I was thinking a bit about what you said about that we have a beautiful route for those of us who enjoy the maledom content more, but if we were to really analyze said route, we can see how most of the sexualthemoment scenes or situations of Kane are quite vanilla and very little hardcore maledom scenes, even if we have opted to be harmful/evil.

In short, at least for me at the moment we should call the route where Kane avoids being dominated/humiliated and goes up the rankings the route of cunning/intelligence since at the moment we have not seen Kane have proper maledom content that resembles just a little what Olivia can be.

So I am quite worried if fans of hardcore maledom contain we will be able to enjoy that content abundantly in the future, since at the moment it feels lacking.

I don't think anyone said that maledom content present in the game is hardcore, you kind of assumed that on your own?

 

[SardonicKeef]

I'm finding this game very hard to get into. Just tell me how many episodes there are please.

 

[Aseratrix]

I'm finding this game very hard to get into. Just tell me how many episodes there are please.

Who is forcing you to get into it? There are 5 chapters as of now, and there may be a couple more [I hope many more, but likely only 3 or 4]. So in total it will probably have 8-9 chapters.

 

[Aseratrix]

pegging and watersports

I am the same with pegging, but not liking watersports... that just broke my heart Thanks for going beyond your likes!

 

[Kxca]

I'm finding this game very hard to get into. Just tell me how many episodes there are please.

Tess has previously mentioned that KG will have around 11-12 chapters... so about halfway to go.

 

[Aseratrix]

Tess has previously mentioned that KG will have around 11-12 chapters... so about halfway to go.

That's even better than my speculation

 

[TessSadist]

I am the same with pegging, but not liking watersports... that just broke my heart Thanks for going beyond your likes!

Yeah, I'm actually a super clean person so the toilet stuff for me kind of doesn't do much for me. I've actually had to force myself to try and develop even scenes with a "sweaty/dirty" female (have such a scene in 0.6) with dirty socks/feet and body odor and that sort of thing because for me it's not super natural.

The best estimate for a final end game isn't by just number of updates (as it depends on the size of each update) but rather the total estimated renders/words. I think I am after 0.5 at about 6000+ renders. After 0.6 I think it will be about 8000ish. My total guess based on plot outline - and seeing how each outline translated to actual renders - is about 17,300 renders for the entire story.

Certainly I can also say that the narrative from my perspective has some flaws - it is harder to go super deep with a specific character (given the wide breadth of choices/options to explore) in a way I wouldn't mind on a future project someday. But I think this style of story is generally working in the way intended which some will love and of course other's won't at all.