VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.1 Part I] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Zenith_11]

Firstly, nothing has been decided yet. Secondly, why do some players, including you, think that Tess is thinking of abandoning the whole EvilDom path, when Tess herself has clearly stated that we are only talking about the most extreme offshoots (let's call them branches) of that path, and more specifically those scenes that are inaccessible to the "normally evil" Kane and Olivia and that are only accessible to those K and O who have "demon" and "demoness" flags?

I am pretty sure that I am on the demon and demoness path. I picked the most extreme evil choices for both my Kane and Olivia on my playthrough.

 

[Maviarab]

I am pretty sure that I am on the demon and demoness path. I picked the most extreme evil choices for both my Kane and Olivia on my playthrough.

If you have URM installed it's simple to check. Flags are:

demon
demoness
demonessdompath

If all true then you are.

 

[Stan5851]

The top 3 in the poll at the moment are

1.I play the dom path and prefer a more normal/dominant harem/romance gaining power Kane without extreme evil.
81

2. I like the subpath, prefer a mix of extreme and gentle
57

3rd.I play the dom path, and like the extreme evil path, absolutely would miss it.50 -

Side ask from here on down for research: I like the sub path, prefer more extreme content
50

DoverUK25, thanks for keeping us informed. Despite of the not-so-fun reason that prompted Tess to make this particular poll, its questions, much less the results, will be of interest to a great many players. (imo)

If you have URM installed it's simple to check.

Maviarab, what's an URM?

 

[Maviarab]

DoverUK25, thanks for keeping us informed. Despite of the not-so-fun reason that prompted Tess to make this particular poll, its questions, much less the results, will be of interest to a great many players. (imo)

Yeah it's very interesting actually given it's from actual patrons...and as said yesterday, find it interesting that despite the noise made here by some, the sub paths are actually not the most popular (which actually doesn't surpise me at all). Still, unique look of sorts into the playerbases minds that actual contribute to KG.

Also interesting to see just how popular that particular 'path' actually is....

Maviarab, what's an URM?

Universal Renpy Mod Allows to check all the variables/flags/points etc within a VN. Useful not only for cheating (for those that want that) but either fixing things yourself easily or checking you have activated a flag/variable etc or fixing a mistake of your own (as I did on my last KG save where I forgot to do something and only noticed some time later, thankfully was easily remedied by changing a couple of variables from true to false and false to true etc).

I use it on every VN I play as because it's a python renpy file...it does not interfere with any actual 'mods' you may wish to use. Save settings, make a backup in case you kill your save and need to revert....marvelous little thing.

 

[Raj07]

Use JoiPlay and replace game/scripts.rpa with mine.

Hey, can you give us something like that for season 2?

 

[shitass1001]

Hey, can you give us something like that for season 2?

They probably will, when the full update comes out

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

On the veronica thing, still not sure of her endgame since the two times she talked about deaf slaves, the only person giving out information was her. There were much easier ways of her to give out information to the slaves if that was her goal

 

[YuNobi1]

On the veronica thing, still not sure of her endgame since the two times she talked about deaf slaves, the only person giving out information was her. There were much easier ways of her to give out information to the slaves if that was her goal

Well she's clearly not wanting the information to leak through them... because it doesn't. Nobody else finds out about E-O until O's first Board meeting (when E was supposed to find out), nor has anyone other than E acted on the "Alexander Jr. via K" plan. So either a) she's the absolute worst information leaker in history, or b) she's lying about wanting information to leak farther than E-O.

As for her endgame:
1) O wins Gambit
2) K-O takes over Karlsson Group and transition all resources to the Island 4 project, and vetting all potential residents.
3) The "chosen" move into Island 4
4) The outside world collapses/becomes uninhabitable.
5) Theory: Island 4 turns out to actually be a spaceship, and it's residents/crew set off for a new home planet. This then sets up Tess's other game(s).

 

[terassiel]

Yeah the game is great and all, but the wait really is no longer worth the amount of content in the update.

 

[Maviarab]

*sighs*...

You can tell an update is out/due out when all the new accounts or old accounts with barely any posts suddenly appear out of the proverbial woodwork with their 'expert opinions' and bullshit trying to stir up problems....

Yeah the game is great and all, but the wait really is no longer worth the amount of content in the update.

I'll add you into the above bracket also. You don't follow very many VN's do you? You don't have to answer that, was a rhetorical question.

 

[Sancho1969]

Because people can't read (don't want to) and like jumping to conclusions?

Amen.

If you have URM installed it's simple to check. Flags are:

demon
demoness
demonessdompath

If all true then you are.

Damn, took me right out of the possible mainstay in-game info source... not even the alternative I see how you are.

 

[Maviarab]

Amen.


Damn, took me right out of the possible mainstay in-game info source... not even the alternative I see how you are.

Bwahahaha...sorry Sancho. You know I love ya

 

[Sancho1969]

Bwahahaha...sorry Sancho. You know I love ya

I'm just pulling your leg bud. You and most folks know I've always been the advocate that individuals should use any and all resources they damn well please (as long as they aren't deceiving and/or blatantly incorrect informational resources which would impose false narratives) imho.

 

[Maviarab]

I'm just pulling your leg bud. You and most folks know I've always been the advocate that individuals should use any and all resources they damn well please (as long as they aren't deceiving and/or blatantly incorrect informational resources which would impose false narratives) imho.

Hehe I know...I know.

Again, your mod for this is one of the very, very few I use for a VN, yours is just too good a resource for this particular VN to not have installed. Given how long it took me make my own excel based version of what your stat screen shows (plus extra info), I have great admiration for how much work/how long this must take you...I certainly bow my hat to you.

 

[DoverDad]

Update on the poll top 3


1ST. I play the dom path and prefer a more normal/dominant harem/romance gaining power Kane without extreme evil.85

2nd. I like the sub path, prefer a mix of extreme and gentle6 3

3rd. I play the dom path, and like the extreme evil path, absolutely would miss it.55


I won't post the poll again unless there is a big change in the poll or till it is finished

 

[terassiel]

*sighs*...

You can tell an update is out/due out when all the new accounts or old accounts with barely any posts suddenly appear out of the proverbial woodwork with their 'expert opinions' and bullshit trying to stir up problems....


I'll add you into the above bracket also. You don't follow very many VN's do you? You don't have to answer that, was a rhetorical question.

Funny, actually I do ever since games like wife trainer, akabur games, big brother, cure my addiction etc first posted here I just rarely see the point of posting. And tbh when karlsons gambit first launched it was bringing a lot of fresh air and felt really exciting. But my guess is that Tess has to many paths in the game and for people who only play one of them the content is just not a lot compared to wait time.

 

[Maviarab]

Funny, actually I do ever since games like wife trainer, akabur games, big brother, cure my addiction etc first posted here I just rarely see the point of posting. And tbh when karlsons gambit first launched it was bringing a lot of fresh air and felt really exciting. But my guess is that Tess has to many paths in the game and for people who only play one of them the content is just not a lot compared to wait time.

Which happens with quite a lot of VN's...and the longer they develop...the longer each update begins. You have to understand, each path (dom/Sub has over 2k renders 'each' in this update). Tess herself says it's shorter, but in reality, that's still a huge chunk of update compared to many other popular VN's that release that size every 8 to 12 months.

Also yes, if you are only interested in one particular branch, it won't seem like much, however, it is neither the devs fault or the VN's if someone conciously makes the decision to not view the content on offer...so one cannot moan about size/time when one is actually making the decision to short-change themselves....

 

[Sancho1969]

For those thinking this update is short...I'll push back on that a bit.

There's almost 13,000 lines of code that cover every branching fork so there is a lot of content if you look at things as a whole. There's 4 major K-Lvl branching content that's subdivided depending on your previous choices with Junko, SweetAss, etc.

There's more than a few lewd scenes (I'm actually sorting through them as I code the ChoiceGuide so don't have a final number for you on that just yet), including 4 lewds in the first 1/3 of the script file, each with variants of themselves depending on choices made/stats.

Just thought I'd give a perspective from the entire VN point of view and not just one branching fork regarding content in the update. Your opinion and/or mileage may vary and that's okay... just my thoughts.

Again, folks should look at the big picture imho.

One update that has:

• over 13,000 lines of dialogue functional coding lines
• over 3,200 image renders
• over 13 lewd scenes (that's how many I placed in SanchoGallery anyway and I skipped a few smaller scenes)

I mod on VN's that don't have that in the VN total, much less in one update. Just sayin'.

I (of all people) have a ton of opinions on just about every subject under the sun, but Tess being lazy on the update quantity ain't one of 'em. Damn thing took me three days to update the mod for... most VN's are under one day. To be fair though, the most intricate VN's do take me between 2 days and 1 week to update so that must be considered.

No one should be shocked at this point regarding specific pathing quantity per update. It's been obvious since this VN started that the amount of pathing forks would result in such a scenario as with any other VN on the planet that goes overboard with branching (as Maviarab noted in his post above).

I'm not wagging my finger at anyone (although I reckon it reads that way), I'm simply pointing out in a more detailed fashion what one should most likely expect going forward in regards to each specific branch content per update... and we're not even done with all the minor forks that will inevitably divert from current branchings that have been setup in Ep8 alone.

 

[crotch69]

The question is: should we wait for the full version or just play the test part? I'm assuming that the full version won't have any additional content added?

 

[Kagarus]

The question is: should we wait for the full version or just play the test part? I'm assuming that the full version won't have any additional content added?

It will have additional content (>=4 scenes+ending), should be out relatively soon (stated goal was ~friday), and saves from the test version will most likely not work as intended in the following chapter (as Tess intends to add additional flags to existing scenes). So if you only want to play it once, you should definitely wait, else... that info should help you to make an informed decision based on your preferences