VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2 Test] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[motseer]

To be honest, I didn't hear crying there, only laughter...And who was really at the bedside of the dying Alexander - this is a separate topic for discussion, which all of you here have already discussed many times...(and never came to a consensus). So I'll leave it aside for now, otherwise we'll get into a new round of discussion about Alessa and "Agent Olivia" again... Yes, I agree, all dialog is important, including the conversation between the "ninja"Veronica and Callista/Gambit Queen.

But it's a little different here...Tess wrote a sentence in her extended reply about Veronica's identity, so I was interested to make sure I hadn't missed it before. I made sure I hadn't missed that sentence, but I confess I hadn't given it much thought or just thought it was unimportant (until I read Tess's response today (in Q&A , Question 13 )..

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But in light of this "new old" knowledge we get a really unpleasant picture, telling us that Alexander Karlsson committed some kind of act (possibly an act of violence, whatever that means) towards his own child, Veronica, which, among other things, influenced the formation of her personality and withdrawn character..

Ha! My ears are old... I never considered it was laughter... It sounds like a little kid crying to my poor old ears... *shrug*

Pertaining to the, probable, violent abuse toward Veronica, yeah, I always assumed that was the case from that conversation. I guess it didn't stand out for me because it was just another brick in the wall, so to speak. I consider his attempt to take Astrid's life pretty violent and nobody on this planet ends up like Juliette without abusive experiences of some kind... I guess what I'm trying to say is Alexander's violent behavior doesn't "stand out" because it is so prevalent.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

I’ll just say, the revolution ending isn’t the main canon ending… all that matters is if World State B happens… and there is variations of ur Kane being sub or dom..

 

[DoverDad]

Hard to say really Dover....and as for being grouped with Dom...not sure, they still despise each other but as far as I can tell, their temporary alliance is still in place (to originally work against Olivia). Possible I suppose given 'that scene' (though not sure Eloise would be a part of it knowing where she can move/join and who she already aligned with).

Maybe Jule will corrupt Dom to her way of thinking if you are doing an evil run that one way can I see Tess doing it with them two but I guess we have to wait and find out

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

In that case, one should also ask at whose request these drugs were developed...I recall there were mentions in the game of the sisters approaching V with one request or another related to their sexual amusement. So it's still a big question whether V would have invented all this if she hadn't had requests from her perverted sisters.

That old man juice was all Veronica's baby; I have yet to see the sisters even think about using that... jess saying

Random thoughts

If the two sisters are unkillable, then how is Yvette able to die? Seems she's always around one or the other so unless she's taking a metaphorical bullet for her daughter, I don't see her demise.

I imagine that whatever island4 is is probably the canon ending and the event that happens regardless of what else happens in the game.

If the revolution does happen and it comes down to a war between her son and her people, which side does callista fall on?

Can Olivia go against her family and support the dekocks if that's what Kane wants to do?

Just being random on this saturday

 

[Maviarab]

I imagine that whatever island4 is is probably the canon ending and the event that happens regardless of what else happens in the game.

I would imagine so and it's very hard to argue against. Tess' other story, being done by Anais (written mostly by Tess) is not set on earth...and Astrid is alive. So yeah, pretty cannon that Island 4 does get it's propulsion 'fitted' at some point and Astrid leaves in cryo regardless of whatever else happens.

 

[kinkyshin]

That old man juice was all Veronica's baby; I have yet to see the sisters even think about using that... jess saying

Random thoughts

If the two sisters are unkillable, then how is Yvette able to die? Seems she's always around one or the other so unless she's taking a metaphorical bullet for her daughter, I don't see her demise.

I imagine that whatever island4 is is probably the canon ending and the event that happens regardless of what else happens in the game.

If the revolution does happen and it comes down to a war between her son and her people, which side does callista fall on?

Can Olivia go against her family and support the dekocks if that's what Kane wants to do?

Just being random on this saturday

Well, on the evil path, Olivia straight up says she doesn't care about her half-sisters and will crush any of them if they get in her way. And on the good path, I imagine she wouldn't have much problem doing that as well, since they're not exactly good people. Also, Olivia is a romance option in every route it seems, so yea.

As for Callista, I have no clue. I'm really not looking forward to Evil Kane and Callista clashing. I wonder how much of a say you will have in choosing Kane's reaction to Callista suddenly reappearing after faking her death. Even if she had an extremely good reason for it, I think it would be a tough pill to swallow, but it's honestly difficult for me to imagine it.

As for how Yvette is able to die... Dude... she's playing a significant role in the rebellions happening in New Paris, The Karlsson Group, and The DeKock Syndicate. And btw, both Cynthia and Charlotte, who seem to be the head honchos at their respective groups, have both mentioned Island 4 now. Dominique is also onto them, which means all 3 organizations likely have some idea where the revolts are coming from and are all currently in South Africa. So, Yvette should be extremely worried IMO lol.

Shit is going to hit the fan soon.

 

[motseer]

I imagine that whatever island4 is is probably the canon ending and the event that happens regardless of what else happens in the game.

Just being random on this saturday

I would imagine so and it's very hard to argue against. Tess' other story, being done by Anais (written mostly by Tess) is not set on earth...and Astrid is alive. So yeah, pretty cannon that Island 4 does get it's propulsion 'fitted' at some point and Astrid leaves in cryo regardless of whatever else happens.

Who wouldn't want to be part of the Island 4 adventure and boldly go where no man has gone before? But, that also begs the question, What if Ancient Aliens are there waiting when they arrive?

 

[Maviarab]

boldly go where no man has gone before?

You'll get to do that in the next game

 

[motseer]

You'll get to do that in the next game

Yep, assuming I can survive this one... Heh, those playing Kane as K1 - K4 may not be so lucky...

 

[Maviarab]

Yep, assuming I can survive this one...

If you need some motivation...Astrid awaits

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Well, on the evil path, Olivia straight up says she doesn't care about her half-sisters and will crush any of them if they get in her way. And on the good path, I imagine she wouldn't have much problem doing that as well, since they're not exactly good people. Also, Olivia is a romance option in every route it seems, so yea.

As for Callista, I have no clue. I'm really not looking forward to Evil Kane and Callista clashing. I wonder how much of a say you will have in choosing Kane's reaction to Callista suddenly reappearing after faking her death. Even if she had an extremely good reason for it, I think it would be a tough pill to swallow, but it's honestly difficult for me to imagine it.

As for how Yvette is able to die... Dude... she's playing a significant role in the rebellions happening in New Paris, The Karlsson Group, and The DeKock Syndicate. And btw, both Cynthia and Charlotte, who seem to be the head honchos at their respective groups, have both mentioned Island 4 now. Dominique is also onto them, which means all 3 organizations likely have some idea where the revolts are coming from and are all currently in South Africa. So, Yvette should be extremely worried IMO lol.

Shit is going to hit the fan soon.

I was thinking that since Cynthia's usually around Veronica and Astrid, both of who are unkillable, that would make her invincible as well, but you're right. Since few know of Astrid, the lion share of the blame will go towards her which puts her in a lot of danger.

I think Kane's reaction will likely depend on his alignment. Good Kane will probably be temporarily mad but ultimately forgiving of and embracing her, while Evil Kane will either disown her or pretend to forgive her and try to use her.

Another random thought

If Kane goes down the kill-all Karlsson path, does Nadia follow him down that path, or will she heed Calista's words and either refute Kane or try to convince him of another way?

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Yep, assuming I can survive this one... Heh, those playing Kane as K1 - K4 may not be so lucky...

K2-k4 most definitely can!

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[jadepaladin]

Does Tess still work on cleanup and fixes for Ep 1-7?

 

[Sharpshooter890]

You'll get to do that in the next game

Which will be released around the time when Star Trek The Original Series takes place.

 

[Maviarab]

Does Tess still work on cleanup and fixes for Ep 1-7?

She will but not a priority. There's a few things that still need attention. Also entirely possible some/most have been dealt with but can't see a fixed version of 1-7 ever appearing here. May redownload it again myself from patreon and check to see if there any difference.

I approve of the avatar change btw

 

[Stan5851]

For the thousandth time I'm telling myself - Stan, save all of Tess's important posts like Silver_Crow117 does...but laziness has taken its toll and I can't find where I saw this...

In any case, as for the cancellation (modification of Jules' solo romance), I 100% saw Tess' post where she writes that instead of the romance with Juliette, Dom players will get an expanded harem of Dominique + Jules+(?). Ofc, this begs the question - what we saw in Pt2 - has this harem already begun? Questions, questions... By the way, I'd appreciate it if someone who has a screenshot of this Tess post would post it here.

 

[PickerLewd]

Does Tess still work on cleanup and fixes for Ep 1-7?

As far as I know, the only bug left from Season 1 is the broken flag where you start on K4, then quickly move up to K5 and the game automatically puts you on the SS path.

Unfortunately, this isn't an easy fix, as it involves introducing new renders and stories to an extremely niche path that's hard to find without a guide.

Tess will certainly continue with the new episodes.

 

[PickerLewd]

I was thinking of a scene where we all definitely get kicked off Patreon for being immoral and incestuous .

Kane is lying on his back asleep on his bed with Olivia on one side and Nadia on the other.

 

[Maviarab]

As far as I know, the only bug left from Season 1 is the broken flag where you start on K4, then quickly move up to K5 and the game automatically puts you on the SS path.

That's not an actual bug afaik. Intended, just an odd thing to do and not what would be expected. All that is missing from that strange route is any real reference back to once being a 'sub' and getting out. it's never really mentioned.

There are still numerous dialogue/grammar issues though (or were).

 

[kinkyshin]

I was thinking that since Cynthia's usually around Veronica and Astrid, both of who are unkillable, that would make her invincible as well, but you're right. Since few know of Astrid, the lion share of the blame will go towards her which puts her in a lot of danger.

I think Kane's reaction will likely depend on his alignment. Good Kane will probably be temporarily mad but ultimately forgiving of and embracing her, while Evil Kane will either disown her or pretend to forgive her and try to use her.

Another random thought

If Kane goes down the kill-all Karlsson path, does Nadia follow him down that path, or will she heed Calista's words and either refute Kane or try to convince him of another way?

What do you mean Cynthia is usually around Veronica and Astrid?

Also, there seems to be serious bad blood between Veronica and Cynthia. Maybe I'm reaching here, but Cynthia may have even played a role in helping Alexander do what he did to Astrid.

That's not an actual bug afaik. Intended, just an odd thing to do and not what would be expected. All that is missing from that strange route is any real reference back to once being a 'sub' and getting out. it's never really mentioned.

There are still numerous dialgue/grammar issues though (or were).

If you go k4->k5 and then tell Alessandra that you're not interested in secretly being her submissive, she reacts accordingly... until the next scene with her where it seems to think you told her that you were interested.