VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[kinkyshin]

I was thinking that since Cynthia's usually around Veronica and Astrid, both of who are unkillable, that would make her invincible as well, but you're right. Since few know of Astrid, the lion share of the blame will go towards her which puts her in a lot of danger.

I think Kane's reaction will likely depend on his alignment. Good Kane will probably be temporarily mad but ultimately forgiving of and embracing her, while Evil Kane will either disown her or pretend to forgive her and try to use her.

Another random thought

If Kane goes down the kill-all Karlsson path, does Nadia follow him down that path, or will she heed Calista's words and either refute Kane or try to convince him of another way?

What do you mean Cynthia is usually around Veronica and Astrid?

Also, there seems to be serious bad blood between Veronica and Cynthia. Maybe I'm reaching here, but Cynthia may have even played a role in helping Alexander do what he did to Astrid.

That's not an actual bug afaik. Intended, just an odd thing to do and not what would be expected. All that is missing from that strange route is any real reference back to once being a 'sub' and getting out. it's never really mentioned.

There are still numerous dialgue/grammar issues though (or were).

If you go k4->k5 and then tell Alessandra that you're not interested in secretly being her submissive, she reacts accordingly... until the next scene with her where it seems to think you told her that you were interested.

 

[Maviarab]

If you go k4->k5 and then tell Alessandra that you're not interested in secretly being her submissive, she reacts accordingly... until the next scene with her where it seems to think you told her that you were interested.

That's not what PL described as a bug though. He was saying entering the SS path is a bug...when it's not. Never turned Alessa down doing that route though, shall have to try that and double check with the latest available version as it should be the exact same version/part of the script as the normal SS route which does work perfectly fine (by next scene...you mean with Alessa in the pool before seeing Celeste)?

 

[kinkyshin]

That's not what PL described as a bug though. He was saying entering the SS path is a bug...when it's not. Never turned Alessa down doing that route though, shall have to try that and double check with the latest available version as it should be the exact same version/part of the script as the normal SS route which does work perfectly fine (by next scene...you mean with Alessa in the pool before seeing Celeste)?

Yea, I know k4->k5 is supposed to result in the SS path that's not a bug, but it's bugged if you go k4->k5 and then you refuse Alessandra.

At the pool, she gives you a footjob and you can accept to become her secret sub. But regardless of what you choose, she will show up later with Alyssa and pretend that you had accepted (even if you didn't). And then you tell her you're not gonna eat the dogfood or whatever it is, she gets pissed off at you.

 

[Maviarab]

At the pool, she gives you a footjob and you can accept to become her secret sub. But regardless of what you choose, she will show up later with Alyssa and pretend that you had accepted (even if you didn't). And then you tell her you're not gonna eat the dogfood or whatever it is, she gets pissed off at you.

Right..so again. That part should be the exact same script as the normal path...which as far as I remember, works fine rejecting her.

So going K4-5...auto joining the path...what happens immediately after the pool scene if you reject being her sub where you would potentially get the Alessa/Celeste scene with Thad?

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

What do you mean Cynthia is usually around Veronica and Astrid?

Also, there seems to be serious bad blood between Veronica and Cynthia. Maybe I'm reaching here, but Cynthia may have even played a role in helping Alexander do what he did to Astrid

Typo, I meant Yvette.

I'm thinking there's bad blood between Cynthia and Veronica because Veronica was likely her dad's q meaning all the nasty shit Alexander did to the Dekocks can likely be traced back to a Veronica invention.

 

[kinkyshin]

Right..so again. That part should be the exact same script as the normal path...which as far as I remember, works fine rejecting her.

So going K4-5...auto joining the path...what happens immediately after the pool scene if you reject being her sub where you would potentially get the Alessa/Celeste scene with Thad?

You're in the hall with Raven and Kwame and she brings you to Juliette for your test where you gotta sell a slave to Alyssa and her boyfriend.

Oh, it is the same if you were k4->k5 as if you were k5/k6 and told Alessandra you would be submissive for the right woman. If you reject Alessandra in the pool (on either way you entered the SS path) then she will still show up with Alyssa smiling and happy, treating you like her SS.

tl;dr it doesn't matter how you enter the SS path, if you refuse Alessandra at the pool, she doesn't seem to realize this when she shows up with Alyssa.

 

[Maviarab]

You're in the hall with Raven and Kwame and she brings you to Juliette for your test where you gotta sell a slave to Alyssa and her boyfriend.

Gonna run through this route right now as nothing in the script suggests it should happen.

Will report back!

 

[kinkyshin]

Gonna run through this route right now as nothing in the script suggests it should happen.

Will report back!

Hey, I tested it and it's the same no matter if you entered the SS path from k4->k5 or on k5/k6 and told Alessandra you're submissive for the right woman.

If you reject Alessandra in the pool (on either way you entered the SS path) then she will still show up with Alyssa smiling and happy, treating you like you had said yes.

tl;dr
Accepting or refusing Alessandra at the pool makes 0 difference on either SS path.
Wait, the only difference is that you get the scene with Celeste and Claudia.

 

[Maviarab]

Heh you beat me to it...was finishing my coffee first...

Wait, the only difference is that you get the scene with Celeste and Claudia.

Which scene with Celeste? The normal dom scene or the SS scene?

Also, what's your Alessa Scale at? if <= -3 the scenes should play regardless of your decision.

I think what the problem is (or the actual confusion) is that once you have SubK5, Alessa will never actually take you off that rank (or Tess won't...lol)...so even if you reject her, your rank stays the same...which naturally then affects the Day 6 evaluation in the throne chamber and subsequently the Day 7 scene with Alyssa.

 

[PickerLewd]

Gonna run through this route right now as nothing in the script suggests it should happen.

Will report back!

But before you do, make sure you have the latest version available .

 

[kinkyshin]

Heh you beat me to it...was finishing my coffee first...


Which scene with Celeste? The normal dom scene or the SS scene?

The SS scene with Celeste and Claudia.
You can choose to get pegged by them or have them tie you up on the cross.

But before you do, make sure you have the latest version available .

Good point. I'm on 0.7.FinalB

is that the latest?

 

[PickerLewd]

Good point. I'm on 0.7.FinalB

is that the latest?

I don't remember, I'd have to check Patreon because as Mav says, if a hotfix suddenly appears, it usually doesn't get here unless it's a major content update.

 

[Maviarab]

Good point. I'm on 0.7.FinalB

is that the latest?

I edited my previous. Will repost here:

Also, what's your Alessa Scale at? if <= -3 the scenes should play regardless of your decision.

I think what the problem is (or the actual confusion) is that once you have SubK5, Alessa will never actually take you off that rank (or Tess won't...lol)...so even if you reject her, your rank stays the same...which naturally then affects the Day 6 evaluation in the throne chamber and subsequently the Day 7 scene with Alyssa.

I'm redownloading now from Patreon (yes 7b is last but there may have been a few edits without increasing the suffix)...just in case there have been a couple of little changes since late last year. However, I do actually think what I put above is actually intended...even if it is a little ...'odd'. I might mention to Tess once 0.8.2 Final is out as to whwther or not staying on SubK+ is actually intended...and basically, that's Alessa screwing you over (I imagine this is actually the case).

On line 15869 of Ep6, that's the start of the Day6 evaluation. So basically, as said above, you never revert to K5...you stay At SubK5 which affects everything going forward. Would perhaps be 'better' if when rejecting her the rank changes, but can see (froma logical in-game perspective) why it wouldn't. Alessa is a bitch lol.

When rejecting Alessa (with Alyssa), all SubK ranks are set to false and then she 'does' revert you back to K5, regardless of what SubK+ rank you had the day before. So yeah, pretty sure it's all working as intended.

 

[MagicMan753]

I don't remember, I'd have to check Patreon because as Mav says, if a hotfix suddenly appears, it usually doesn't get here unless it's a major content update.

I don't think anything was really changed for season 1, but eventually Miss Tess will release season 1 on Steam with fixes and stuff. I think she is even changing some scenes and possibly adding a few possible scenes.
Tess mentioned a possible Veronica checkup if you saved Maria for exmaple might be added. So I think most changes will come when Steam version comes.

 

[PickerLewd]

I don't think anything was really changed for season 1, but eventually Miss Tess will release season 1 on Steam with fixes and stuff. I think she is even changing some scenes and possibly adding a few possible scenes.
Tess mentioned a possible Veronica checkup if you saved Maria for exmaple might be added. So I think most changes will come when Steam version comes.

Good to know, I didn't even know she was planning a Steam release .

 

[Maviarab]

Good to know, I didn't even know she was planning a Steam release .

She isn't...really...if...it happens...it's a long, long way away and not a priority. It's been discussed but nothing more than that.

 

[jadepaladin]

She will but not a priority. There's a few things that still need attention. Also entirely possible some/most have been dealt with but can't see a fixed version of 1-7 ever appearing here. May redownload it again myself from patreon and check to see if there any difference.

I approve of the avatar change btw

It's not an important scene or anything just a continuity thing. I was running a Junko playthrough and noticed that Dominique includes the line about having some time before his second department even though she was the second department since I did Veronica/Dominique. My PC says the KG folder is March 2024 so I assume that's around the time I downloaded the version I have.

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[Maviarab]

It's not an important scene or anything just a continuity thing. I was running a Junko playthrough and noticed that Dominique includes the line about having some time before his second department even though she was the second department since I did Veronica/Dominique. My PC says the KG folder is March 2024 so I assume that's around the time I downloaded the version I have.

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Heh...not sure that one has ever been brought up, I'll mention it.

Can also confrm the 03/24 is the very last version so no dialogue issues have been addressed yet, or at the least, not released.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

For the test version, the whole reason for playing with tests was that Juliette was late to the meeting. Yet when Juliette shows up about ten minutes after Tess leaves, she doesn't even acknowledge that the meeting was supposed to happen. Has that been addressed?

 

[Maviarab]

For the test version, the whole reason for playing with Tess was that Juliette was late to the meeting. Yet when Juliette shows up about ten minutes after Tess leaves, she doesn't even acknowledge that the meeting was supposed to happen. Has that been addressed?

Juliette is never late, nor is she early, Jules arrives precisely when she means to ...you know...like Gandalf, in a mini dress and heels! No explanation is ever required.

(And I think you meant Tess, not tests heh).