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If i would rule the Karlsson Company....i would be kind to my subjects....at first....
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First off, we never knew the “original nature” of Kane, that’s why in the beginning of the game, we have the option to choose what type of individual he will be: Good, Evil , Dom, Sub… I thought that was self explanatory… in my point of bias, I can say that the dom route is an artificial construct, and was never inclined to be dominant…
For all we know, Kane grew up normally yes, but when facing a situation in which was forced onto him, we don’t know how he would react, yes he has some core values of caring for his family, like most people do… except for a lot of the Karlsson sister lmaoOo but saying that he’s a “confident, tough guy” has no basis in origin.. this is why when “Us” the player are put into the body of Kane, we have the determination of how to react to the sudden situation at hand in which, we control what’s canon or not… Callista didn’t train Kane how to crawl and be pathetic (that comes naturally
) but she also didn’t tell Kane to Whip females and torture them! It’s all about how you the player wants to shape Kane during this period of his life in which will shape him to be who he is in the future…Obviously Callista kept Kane (at least) in the dark because of past conflict with the Karlsson and she thought wrongly of keeping it a secret from Kane, in which I can see kinda why she might be ashamed with the whole situation but at the same time, she was obviously trying to hide him from the Karlsson and if she told him about the whole ordeal, Kane probably would’ve gone looking for answers in which would cause the whole situation he finds himself anyways… (it’s like one of those events that you can’t change nor escape from! Hahaha like a time traveling movie)
Clearly Kane wasn’t trained nor informed Because of the preset values of what Alexander was looking for, The Sperm/Genetic code on wanting a Male Heir of the Karlsson Group, in Which by bad judgement in my Opinion, Callista didn’t tell Kane about But decided to try and hid him from the inevitable… Callista did give some information and training of some kind to Olivia but never had given her the full truth/story of why… now don’t I like how Callista has operated? No but I can see why she did it… not every parent is perfect and clearly Callista thinks she can outsmart anyone and when you think your that intelligent, you tend to miss out on important values/aspects of life around you and of others…
Obviously I could go into Olivia and her.. ordeal but it’s kinda like Kane except they started at different points in the race but she was given the cheat code before the game even started… hahaha
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A friend offered to give me a KotOR game (which I've never played), Sharpshooter recommends the first and you recommend the second (you're a Sith at heart), so I demand to get both
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This has always been a divisive subject and I think most of us regulars know each others pov's, however, interesting if/for new people read this stuff so:
Also, as a final thought, this is a great thread, let's keep it civil guys
Yes...we do really. There are flashbacks which show how Kane reacts, how he talks, how he 'is'....and sorry Silver, I love you man, but he ain't submissive by nature. That's player choice. I'll say it again, yes Tess, like myself, is a Dom...but this story is not a femdom story at heart and at it's core, it's been turned into one. It's a false fallacy. A very well done one yes...but not the default. Please don't be angry.
Again, yes we do...the Seth incident is proof of that. No supposition, no opinion, no rose-tinted....plain facts presented in the story which cannot be argued with or refuted.
Agree completely with that.
Careful...wandering dangerously into the realms of stating facts when they are not. It still remains to be clarified....exactly what Olvia was told/knows and by whom. Once again, when discussing, be clear with facts...as presented in the story...and what are our assumptions and opinions. I still believe (until proven otherwise in the story) Olivia knows far...far more than we are aware of as the player. I still also believe she knew about all the sisters (suggest re-reading the conversation at the helicopter with Caliista) and still believe she met Alexander.
The first is a great game..however, the second is superior in writing, story, characters and gameplay.A friend offered to give me a KotOR game (which I've never played), Sharpshooter recommends the first and you recommend the second (you're a Sith at heart), so I demand to get both
Also, as a final thought, this is a great thread, let's keep it civil guys
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Well, I think like Astrid and wonder why they should play the ridiculous game of old and dead Alexander when he is no longer alive to reinforce it.
Of course we'd run out of story, so I'm glad it's the way it is.
Of course we'd run out of story, so I'm glad it's the way it is
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It doesn’t show he’s dominant either, the flashbacks just show of him talking normally, not any other point of reference shows him of being dominant nor submissive In nature… it just shows him as an average person in those specific situations at hand. Even more, the drastic situation that he finds himself in and how he’s gotten up to the point of the player taking control, brings things outta people in which they never knew they had… obviously it’s the player choice on how to react to that situation because in real life, that’s what happens… people react/handle things differentlyThis has always been a divisive subject and I think most of us regulars knpow each others pov's, however, interesting if new people read this stuff so:
Yes...we do really. There are flashbacks which show how Kane reacts, how he talks, how he 'is'....and sorry Silver, I love you mabn, but he ain;t submissive by nature. That's player choice. I'll saiy it again, yes Tess, like myself, is a Dom...but this story is not a femdom story at heart and at it's core, it's been turned into one. It's a false fallacy. A very well done yes...but not the default. Please don't be angry.
Again, yes we do...the Seth incident is proof of that. No supposition, no opinion, no rose-tinted....plain facts presented in the story which cannot be argued with or refuted.
Agree completely with that.
Careful...wandering dangerously into the realms of stating facts when they are options. It still remains to be clarified....exactly what Olvia was told/knows and by whom. Once again, wehn discussing, be clear with facts...as presented in the story...and what are our assumptions and opinions. I still believe (untuil proven otherwise in the story) Olivia knows far...far more than we are aware of as the player. I still also believe she knew about all the sisters (suggest re-reading the conversation at the helicopter with Caliista) and still believe she met Alexander.
Also, as a final thought, this is a great thread, let's keep it civil guys
and about Seth, it shows he’s caring of him and protective of him, that’s not a dominant. Nor a submissive mindset, that’s just a naturalistic emotion, when you’ve known for someone for so long and it’s “family…
and yes Tess is a Dom, that doesn’t negate the fact of what she’s building… her main priority of Karlsson Gambit is to have the player make the decision of what Kane’s story is and the characters around him.. that’s the core values of what Miss Tess holds of the game, it’s built from that and that’s what’s she’s told me with the references she’s got from Miss Anais and games such as Mass effect and Dragon Age (older ones lol) it didn’t start out as a dom story, nor a submissive one…
and for Olivia, she doesn’t have all the facts, was she told something and trained in something’s, possibly yes, but for right now we’re on the cusp of Hypotheticals here until more information is given to us so at that conjecture it’s pointless to argue it
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One is better than 2. But, that doesn't mean 2 is bad. Ps just don't forget to install the fan patches and bug fixesA friend offered to give me a KotOR game (which I've never played), Sharpshooter recommends the first and you recommend the second (you're a Sith at heart), so I demand to get both
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Callista is the Gambit Queen, and this is no longer our speculation, but official information. And it shouldn't be a secret to you if you've played Ep8 pt1. Tess even named the Ep8 pt1 after her.
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I wish they made games like Kotor more… wish games in general were better… tho I did here that path of exile 2 is really good if your into ARPGsA friend offered to give me a KotOR game (which I've never played), Sharpshooter recommends the first and you recommend the second (you're a Sith at heart), so I demand to get both
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I was steering clear of this conversation but, you hooked me a bit on this one statement. One of the reasons that I consider KG to be one of the two best written AVN's on this site has nothing to do with dom/sub, kink/genre. What I like most about Tess' story is that I do know how Kane will react. My Kane reacts the way I want him to and yours reacts the way you want him too; and best of all, they may be totally different people... Jus' Sayin'
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That’s where whole point of it my friend, if you wanna lick ass… lick it… if you wanna Whip those Hoes, whip emI was steering clear of this conversation but, you hooked me a bit on this one statement. One of the reasons that I consider KG to be one of the two best written AVN's on this site has nothing to do with dom/sub, kink/genre. What I like most about Tess' story is that I do know how Kane will react. My Kane reacts the way I want him to and yours reacts the way you want him too; and best of all, they may be totally different people... Jus' Sayin'
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there is so much going on in karlssons gambit bro i dont even know what yall are talking about
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You reminded me with that image of the idea discussed here that each mask represents a character and that they are a spoiler at the beginning of each chapter. Especially when you replay the chapters
.No, I'm only interested in games that end at some point and not with an eternal late game like PoE, which creates a lot of addiction.
Although I am addicted to F95 and play two new games from here per month
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Some of us here...perhaps myself...maybe...kind of...who knows *shrugs*...are a little obsessed with this story heheh and have disected it (yeah Ok I definitely have) to the n'th degree.
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Yeah..You are right, we must once again thank Maviarab for the titanic and painstaking work he has done.You reminded me with that image of the idea discussed here that each mask represents a character and that they are a spoiler at the beginning of each chapter. Especially when you replay the chapters
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I have one question... Does time pass at a slower rate where you are? Where the hell do you find enough of it to do all this? This isn't even the only thread you are this active in... You have way too much energy to be a normal human, my friend... Your last name isn't Trump, right?
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Awww shucks...make me blush...it was a damn fine post though wasn't it, even if I do say so myself hahahaha.Yeah..You are right, we must once again thank Maviarab for the titanic and painstaking work he has done.
With any luck, with the new update, we can nail down some more names to the masks I was stull unsure about. Still doesn't help that she introduced new ones for old lost ones...bit hard to truly figure them all out.
To give a little info (not exactly private info I guess), my afternoons and evenings are largely my own. I'm effectively (thankfully) retired early and I also look after/care for my mother full time. It affords me a lot of time to think, theorise...and yes, do shit like excel sheets for masks and walkthroughs for other VN's hehe. I also use multiple monitors so do important stuff on my main screen (or watch sometyhing, have a game running etc) while I have browsers open on a seperate one. That and quite frankly...because I can and have the time and find stuff like save sheets/walthroughs/creating the mask post that Stan linked interesting...keeps the brain active
And because I'm sad (and have a lot of time) and love stats etc....as you mentioned my activity here...KG beats the rest by a wide margin.
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You are a damn multitasking demon, my friend...Awww shucks...make me blush...it was a damn fine post though wasn't it, even if I do say so myself hahahaha.
With any luck, with the new update, we can nail down some more names to the masks I was stull unsure about. Still doesn't help that she introduced new ones for old lost ones...bit hard to truly figure them all out.
To give a little info (not exactly private info I guess), my afternoons and evenings are largely my own. I'm effectively (thankfully) retired early and I also look after/care for my mother full time. It affords me a lot of time to think, theorise...and yes, do shit like excel sheets for masks and walkthroughs for other VN's hehe. I also use multiple monitors so do important stuff on my main screen (or watch sometyhing, have a game running etc) while I have browsers open on a seperate one. That and quite frankly...because I can and have the time and find stuff like save sheets/walthroughs/creating the mask post that Stan linked interesting...keeps the brain active
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