Yeah, Bro. I spent 2 weeks pouring over this game before Test was out, and all the clues pointed to D being Grym, whereas all V clues contradicted themselves and A had a single clue that I correctly deduced was a red-herring. and it's not like with Nadia being suspected of being K's sister, there's an actual scene where Callista talks to an unmasked Grym, upset that she lied that she didn't know where Cole was during her talk on the boat.
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So red tips ninja is also Grym Gudina? Are we still assuming Alessandra is white tips? Why on earth would Patrica be talking to Veronica then....aaahhh....I'll just have to wait, I won't be trying beta either so I'll just cryosleep for a couple of weeks I think until Final is released hahahaha.
Anyway, I need to crash...I think Stan already fallen asleep at his keyboard as he 3 hours ahead of me hehe. We'll continue this tomorrow, night fella's.
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Masked lady in the temple and Masked lady near the boat are different ..
Masked lady in the temple is Grym Gudinna !
Masked lady in the temple is Grym Gudinna !
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Ok, the conversation has reached the events of Chapter 8, time to get the hell out of here until tomorrow 
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Shiet, I was so focused on ff7 rebirth that I didn't pay attention to Karlsson's Gambit's new update. Things are getting more and more interesting. Finally we're about to get another k5, probably unlucky guy name Brad
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Final Results from the poll top 3
1st.I play the dom path and prefer a more normal/dominant harem/romance gaining power Kane without extreme evil.97
2nd.I like the sub path, prefer a mix of extreme and gentle72
3rd. I play the dom path, and like the extreme evil path, absolutely would miss it.67
1st.I play the dom path and prefer a more normal/dominant harem/romance gaining power Kane without extreme evil.97
2nd.I like the sub path, prefer a mix of extreme and gentle72
3rd. I play the dom path, and like the extreme evil path, absolutely would miss it.67
I think these results are enough not to remove extreme evil as an option. After all, this is the game of choices and "i'm offended that other people have possibility to get content i don't like so the dev should remove it" position isn't right.
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How the fuck is this a dead game when the test version came not long ago with the final version should be out by the end of the month
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While I agree with your first sentence, the second one has never been the issue. Rather, it's "Is having this path in my game worth getting harassed by murder porn nutjobs over?"
Personally, I'm afraid it's a moot question. Even if the dev were to remove the extreme path now, the snuff enthusiasts would just harass her for removing it rather than sending unwelcome suggestions for "improving" it.
But we'll see what she decides.
Yeah, this. Any fan theory that relies on Olivia's word is at best dicey.
I'm beginning to regret my evil trandem path because Kane and Seth clearly can't trust her, no matter what the player choices.
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The poll allows picking more than one option, I believe (but patrons please correct me if I'm wrong), so anyone who plays more than one path could turn up more than once in the results. Can't really draw hard and fast conclusions about the player base from this.
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Full poll results
I play the dom path, and love the extreme evil dom path and would be greatly upset losing it.
38
I play the dom path, and like the extreme evil path, absolutely would miss it.
67
I play the dom path and don't care too much about the extreme evil path. I won't miss it too much.
44
I play the dom path and prefer the good path.
47
I play the dom path and prefer a more normal/dominant harem/romance gaining power Kane without extreme evil.
97
I play dom path but primarily for secret sub path, but love the extreme evil path.
8
I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, but like the extreme evil path.
13
I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, don't care about extreme evil path.
18
I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, prefer good path.
19
I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, prefer normal assertive/dominant Kane gaining power/females path.
19
I play mostly/all sub path, but love the extreme evil dom path.
15
I play mostly/all sub path, but like the extreme evil dom path.
16
I play mostly/all sub path, but don't care about the extreme evil path.
25
I play mostly/all sub path, but prefer good dom path.
8
I play mostly/all sub path, but prefer normal Kane assertive/dominant harem/romance path.
13
I play mostly all/sub path, completely ignore the dom path except secret sub
37
I play mostly all/sub path, completely ignore dom path entirely.
23
Side ask from here o n down for research: I like the sub path, prefer more extreme content
59
I like the sub path, prefer a mix of extreme and gentle
72
I like the sub path, prefer a more gentle path generally
19
I play the dom path, and love the extreme evil dom path and would be greatly upset losing it.
38
I play the dom path, and like the extreme evil path, absolutely would miss it.
67
I play the dom path and don't care too much about the extreme evil path. I won't miss it too much.
44
I play the dom path and prefer the good path.
47
I play the dom path and prefer a more normal/dominant harem/romance gaining power Kane without extreme evil.
97
I play dom path but primarily for secret sub path, but love the extreme evil path.
8
I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, but like the extreme evil path.
13
I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, don't care about extreme evil path.
18
I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, prefer good path.
19
I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, prefer normal assertive/dominant Kane gaining power/females path.
19
I play mostly/all sub path, but love the extreme evil dom path.
15
I play mostly/all sub path, but like the extreme evil dom path.
16
I play mostly/all sub path, but don't care about the extreme evil path.
25
I play mostly/all sub path, but prefer good dom path.
8
I play mostly/all sub path, but prefer normal Kane assertive/dominant harem/romance path.
13
I play mostly all/sub path, completely ignore the dom path except secret sub
37
I play mostly all/sub path, completely ignore dom path entirely.
23
Side ask from here o n down for research: I like the sub path, prefer more extreme content
59
I like the sub path, prefer a mix of extreme and gentle
72
I like the sub path, prefer a more gentle path generally
19
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If take the full poll..then it seems more doms at first glance.
Which, in all honesty, is not all that surprising. Because, and hear me out, while Tess is a dominatrix herself...this is actually only dressed up as a femdom game, where in reality, it actually isn't at all if you look at all the facts regarding what is probably going to be a logical cannon ending (leading to the next story) in that, a Good/Dom Olivia (and likely Kane also) will be the natural ending.
People may not like that...but there's too many dots connecting it. So while we have powerful and evil woman...and lots of femdom and a recognised sub path, the entire story/plot is really centered on a dom Kane (with Olivia) taking over the company....it's another sleight of hand by Tess, it really isn't a sub/femdom game at all in my opinion. I've made mention before that, a pure femdom game would have probably already been abandoned by now.
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The definition of evil is subjective though. For some, the sex scene with Phoebe is evil, while others have no problem with it. Same goes for torture/murder scenes. It can even feel right, not evil, if we think the victim deserved such harsh treatment. So such polls are very inaccurate by their nature, unless specific examples of what Tess considers 'evil' are presented clearly.
NO SPOILERS (Ep. 1-7 info only): Why Alessandra CANNOT be Grym
Ep. 2 opens with Grym ordering Patricia to oversee K's training, but to "do things by the book," but Pat disobeys this order by first offering K the option to cheat (deal), and later following through by eliminating/mitigating the punishment, and offering sex. In Ep. 7, Pat says that she did everything A told her to do with K in the prison, but the deal/cheating was AGAINST Grym's orders, so if she did those things under A's orders, while disobeying Grym, then A cannot be Grym. Furthermore, her loyalty to A is actually no secret, as A brags to V about Pat's loyalty to her, and that Pat is "under control".
As for Pat listening to V, she's already doing that: she reports to V (while laying prostrate under V's heels) in Ep. 3, right in front of A, immediately before A confesses that Pat is under control, and following the airplane scene. Like all staff at KG, Pat has multiple (and often conflicting) loyalties: E, A, V, Kiyomi, and Grym. E rescued/raised her, A has "whipped" her, V was her boss in the prisons, and now again at the Joy Facility, with Kiyomi as her supervisor, so Grym is either just an additional loyalty on the pile, or one that's already there (A OR V).
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You mean like by specifying that the evil extreme path she's talking about is the demon+demoness path?
(Also an interesting example to bring up for subjective perception of evil as a communication issue, considering the option to initiate that particular scene is literally
"(I think I can fuck her in front of her sick husband. I know it might be a bit cruel...but it might help me too to show how far I can go for clients. *warning evil evil evil be careful...*)", so it's pretty clearly communicated whether the author considers it evil or not. )