VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

How do you get Oliva to do Lick Kane's cock I take it she needs her to be a sub right

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[Stan5851]

Is because Angelica doesn't like to share almost anything, she's probably an only child .

Or maybe Tess just decided to take away our dreams...and if that's the case, she succeeded. See what a double-edged sword that turned out to be? If we hadn't asked Tess to move Angelica from T2 to T1, we probably wouldn't have been able to build too deep a relationship with her, but we might have gotten an O+A harem since Angelica would have only been T2.

And now that her romance (technically) has the same level of depth as it does for characters of the Karlsson sisters' level, Tess decides to make a horse move, and in addition to the recently announced information that Angelica is prone to cheating/cunning (which makes sense given her past in the Wastelands), she apparently doesn't like polygamous unions. Is she too capricious for an ordinary, albeit very beautiful and intelligent, but still K4 slave girl? Just a thought in my head..

 

[Maviarab]

recently announced information that Angelica is prone to cheating/cunning

Eh? Where did you read that? Certainly not in the Q&A.

Or did you mean, she won't accept us beng with other women (or not many at all)...just like Veronica?

 

[Stan5851]

Eh? Where did you read that? Certainly not in the Q&A.

Of course not. It was on Tess's Discord. I'll try to find it. (f ....ing discord search, arr!..)

 

[Stan5851]

Eh? Where did you read that? Certainly not in the Q&A.

Or did you mean, she won't accept us beng with other women (or not many at all)...just like Veronica?

Not really. What I'm talking about is this..

 

[Maviarab]

Not really. What I'm talking about is this..
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Still not seeing what you wrote, sorry. Did you mean cheating as in bending the rules or actual cheating...because, that's never going to happen (not on the DomPath), so maybe I misunderstood you. If on her path (or even not on her path but getting her favor), I really don't see her nature being anything to concern ourselves with.

Edit: If not on her path and we don't have her favor, I can for sure see her possibly 'working against' us (Chloe too actually) and honestly, I think that would be brilliant as we head towards the end. Would make the whole friends/allies and enemies very much more interesting and alive.

 

[Stan5851]

Still not seeing what you wrote, sorry. Did you mean cheating as in bending the rules or actual cheating...because, that's never going to happe, so maybe I misunderstood you If on her path (or even not on her path but getting her favor), I really don't see her nature being anything to concern ourselves with.

Well, if it's more or less clear with her "strategic" (and we've already had a chance to see that Angelica has this quality), then the fact that she's also very “deceptive” by nature raises some questions...Yeah, it hardly means that she will cheat on Kane (it's impossible to walk away from such a handsome man, lol), but such a character trait as “deceptive” doesn't seem too good to me..Ofc, I won't give up on her, but I still wonder what Tess meant by that wording.

 

[Maviarab]

Well, if it's more or less clear with her "strategic" (and we've already had a chance to see that Angelica has this quality), then the fact that she's also very “deceptive” by nature raises some questions...Yeah, it hardly means that she will cheat on Kane (it's impossible to walk away from such a handsome man, lol), but such a character trait as “deceptive” doesn't seem too good to me..Ofc, I won't give up on her, but I still wonder what Tess meant by that wording.

As I said, gain her favor and work for her interests too, I don't forsee any issues. Don't help her/gain her favor, sure, why wouldn't she look elsewhere to rise up in rank and if that's at our expense then so be it? I have no issues with that kind of gameplay/plot at all.

Keep your friends close, keep your enemies...

 

[jadepaladin]

I have no problems with Angelica becoming a T1. I'll take an incompatible Angelica over less Angelica any day. The Karlssons seem to have limited interactions with those from the wastelands (going by the K1 chamber, they probably kill most of them) so finding someone as put together as Angelica was most likely a surprise. Hence she gets thrown in the program to see what they can mold her into. I imagine Allesandra has plans for her (no matter the route) much like Katsumi's "training plan" was to geared toward her becoming an executive.

She certainly seems capable enough to take the ball and run with it when they give her chances at power. While I will undoubtedly play KG enough times to see as many endings as possible, as of this chapter, a Kane/Angelica ending is looking like my favorite (sorry Olivia). I don't see her as all that different from Dom Kane, making the right decisions without overplaying her hand. It's more impressive because she doesn't have the safety of being related to Callista.

My take on her being deceptive is that she's able to read people and cater to them. If she's in a room with Juliette, she'll be as sadastic as she needs to be to placate Julie. If she's with Allesandra, Angelica shifts into something more pleasing. She's a chameleon and time will tell if we get to experience the "real" Angelica.


Unrelated side note: Dom Kane gets away with so much stuff that would get Sub Kane flogged. The amount of times in the early episodes that Chanel and others have to correct him not saying Mistress, etc. He even fucks it up in one of the promotion ceremonies and still manages to come away with a promotion.

 

[Maviarab]

She certainly seems capable enough to take the ball and run with it when they give her chances at power. While I will undoubtedly play KG enough times to see as many endings as possible, as of this chapter, a Kane/Angelica ending is looking like my favorite (sorry Olivia). I don't see her as all that different from Dom Kane, making the right decisions without overplaying her hand. It's more impressive because she doesn't have the safety of being related to Callista.

A thousand percent this.

She's a chameleon and time will tell if we get to experience the "real" Angelica.

I think on her romance path, you will from what Tess said about her similarity to V. As Tess put it, not on her path, you will not get all her mind.

Unrelated side note: Dom Kane gets away with so much stuff that would get Sub Kane flogged. The amount of times in the early episodes that Chanel and others have to correct him not saying Mistress, etc. He even fucks it up in one of the promotion ceremonies and still manages to come away with a promotion.

Sure thing...

 

[kinkyshin]

This fucking sub, man.

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[Maviarab]

This fucking sub, man.

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Very good man...very good.

 

[Stan5851]

As I said, gain her favor and work for her interests too, I don't forsee any issues. Don't help her/gain her favor, sure, why wouldn't she look elsewhere to rise up in rank and if that's at our expense then so be it? I have no issues with that kind of gameplay/plot at all.

Keep your friends close, keep your enemies...

Mav, I have no problem with Angelica T1 either...especially since I myself asked Tess to make her one...I just remembered that Tess wrote about her..So you can consider this as information to think about. Of course, I'm assuming that Angelica will be deceiving (and doing so with talent) not KaneDom, but our enemies.

 

[jadepaladin]

I probably should have waited until the final version but I love tierlists so I gave in. I was also kind of curious to see how my thoughts have changed between the two lists.

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I could probably say more but this is already a wall.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

I think he means, she has become more prevalent on every route and path than even the Karlsson sisters themselves lol. She has a T1 Dom route, a SS route, she is very heavily involved in the SubPaths...

I feel like as a sub player… with every new info that I’m getting the more my Variable saves I’m gonna have Here’s what she said yesterday

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[MilesEdgeworth]

Interesting thing is Chastains popularity on patreon, doesn't really seem to be a thing here.

Unrelated side note: Dom Kane gets away with so much stuff that would get Sub Kane flogged. The amount of times in the early episodes that Chanel and others have to correct him not saying Mistress, etc. He even fucks it up in one of the promotion ceremonies and still manages to come away with a promotion.

Yea lately he's been talking mad shit to Olivia, dom and juliette lately and they've either haven't heard him or have been ignoring him

 

[Stan5851]

The dom path is more of a choice for Kane if he wants to pursue romance or not -- Kane will have to decide what he really wants because Angelica in her own way is too strong willed to accept certain things as much as even some Karlssons.

However, hope is not lost yet, as long as we have these “some”..Who knows, maybe just our sweet little "sis" will not be among these "some".

 

[kinkyshin]

Interesting. I had never encountered the word "wittering" before. I doubt I'll use it, but thank you for introducing it to me.

The problem is, I don't dislike Tess' style of writing.

I don't like this one aspect.
I don't like the

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(thanks Rufio for identifying the proper term for it) which appears frequently in this game.

I didn't even express any wonderment about why I got flamed for criticism in this thread/community.

Btw, I really don't like how our argument turned out.

I regret making "pearls before swine" comment which I'm guessing is also probably what escalated everything.

I think we're past the point of ever reaching an agreement on that particular subject, but there's no hard feelings on my end. I don't know if you're still angry or not, but I'm definitely willing to most past it or even forget it happened, whichever you prefer. Don't feel like you're not welcome here just because of that.

I probably should have waited until the final version but I love tierlists so I gave in. I was also kind of curious to see how my thoughts have changed between the two lists.

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I could probably say more but this is already a wall.

Yea, I agree on Angelica. My last list put her in 'No opinion yet' because Tess made a comment that said Angelica had some flaws that were going to be shown on ep8pt2, so I didn't want to rank her high until those were shown. But it seems like her 'flaws' if you can even call them that are pretty minor.

Also, when I replayed the Secret Sub route I noticed a particular line I hadn't before.

ang "I'd like you to call me Lady Angelica. I had the chance to meet a wonderful woman named Charlotte, and people call her Lady in New Paris."
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ang "I like the name too, so that's what you're going to use with me. If it's ok with Alessandra."
a "I love both names! I wonder how Charlotte will react to using the same title too. I bet she doesn't mind!"

Will... not would... I guess that means Alessandra and Charlotte are chummy and she's going to be entering the secret sub route as well?

 

[Stan5851]

Spoiler: Meanwhile, in Angelica's room.

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[Dark Quean Olivia]

Well, I see all the troublemakers have been dealt with, moving on then.

Unrelated side note: Dom Kane gets away with so much stuff that would get Sub Kane flogged. The amount of times in the early episodes that Chanel and others have to correct him not saying Mistress, etc. He even fucks it up in one of the promotion ceremonies and still manages to come away with a promotion.

Sure thing...

I swear, if that idiot not-brother of mine says 'sure thing' or disrespects me one more time, he'll be joining Amara in the hole!

I have no problems with Angelica becoming a T1. I'll take an incompatible Angelica over less Angelica any day. The Karlssons seem to have limited interactions with those from the wastelands (going by the K1 chamber, they probably kill most of them) so finding someone as put together as Angelica was most likely a surprise. Hence she gets thrown in the program to see what they can mold her into. I imagine Allesandra has plans for her (no matter the route) much like Katsumi's "training plan" was to geared toward her becoming an executive.

Sighs

You know, I can't even be mad at this, I'll give you a free pass on this Mr. Paladin.