VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Stan5851]

Only a couple of small differences and some small dialogue changes. Nothing major 'this time' but it will keep changing as we go on.

Mav, I've only played 3 saves out of 10 so far (waiting for the final version), but in all of them my Olivia has a lot of SisSub points, so I haven't had a chance to compare everything myself yet...

But as far as I heard (probably from you), if the conditions are not met (no flag and less than 7 sisSub pts), she, in addition to the lack of promising lines about her future submission to Kane, also will not lick the cock of this lucky guy..So if this is true, then for the first time, and even with Olivia - it's quite a significant difference in her behavior. (imo)

 

[Maviarab]

Mav, I've only played 3 saves out of 10 so far (waiting for the final version), but in all of them my Olivia has a lot of SisSub points, so I haven't had a chance to compare everything myself yet...

But as far as I heard (probably from you), if the conditions are not met (no flag and less than 7 sisSub pts), she, in addition to the lack of promising lines about her future submission to Kane, also will not lick the cock of this lucky guy..So if this is true, then for the first time, and even with Olivia - it's quite a significant difference in her behavior. (imo)

Behaviour yes...changes in scenes...not so much heh. There's that one (no variables she just watches) and a change where she sits on Cass while you're fucking her. So scene wise, very little changes...but yes, it's the promise of what's to come that's far more important

As for rest...still sorting my new subsaves out, have a few still to finish off. After that everything needs importing uggghhh...actually hoping it's released on Thursday or better yet the weekend (no one will die or have their firstborn sacrificed to Cthulu if it's not out tomorrow lol) to give me just a little more time to get fully organised. Will be at 30 saves total once done

 

[Stan5851]

Behaviour yes,,,scenes...not so much heh. There's that one (no variables she just watches) and a change where she sits on Cass while you're fucking her. So scene wise, very little changes...but yes, it's the promise of what's to come that's more important

I see...maybe I'm having trouble translating again, lol, but..And as for Liv tongue on Kane's cock, does she lick it anyway (even if she doesn't meet flag+ sissub=7) or just looking (what you wrote)?

 

[Maviarab]

I see...maybe I'm having trouble translating again, lol, but..And as for Liv tongue on Kane's cock, does she lick it anyway (even if she doesn't meet flag+ sissub=7) or just looking (what you wrote)?

She just watches Cass.

 

[PickerLewd]

The doctor thing is also because of her rank/title fetish, along with the famous latex nurse outfit fetish.

I also think she applied some of her inventions to herself because she looks like she's between 17 and 19 when she's actually Veronica's age (I think she was about 30-35) .

And I like how each time we do a ranking, everyone takes something different into account.

For example, JadePaladin's ranking makes him a JadeTerrorist for me with Patricia and Junko in the A along with other beauties, but he ranks them by what they contribute to the plot and not by absolute beauty, which is fine .

 

[Stan5851]

I also think she applied some of her inventions to herself because she looks like she's between 17 and 19 when she's actually Veronica's age (I think she was about 30-35) .

I think you're confused about Veronica's age.

 

[Stan5851]

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Save Sheet/Timeline & Full Character List:

Have now added the Save Sheet, Timeline & Character Sheets as individual zips as well for those who just want one, Character Sheet & timeline also updated with error fixes.

Updated up to v0.8 Part1 Final

*Character and timeline sheets have been updated, still working on rearranging the Save Sheet, lot of new variables to fit in. Will be released shortly after 0.8.2 Final is released once checked the missing scenes*

Will update only when finals are released and I work through it on all my saves. Don't expect an immediate update in the days following.

Any problems, issues or errors, please feel free to let me know by reply or send me a DM. Will keep this updated moving forward.

• Save sheet I think is pretty straight forward, use as a ref sheet if nothing else but this was done primarily for my own use, so alter as you see fit. Just add points as you get them and highlight the flags you have etc. Every point, temp, variable/flag is listed on it.
• Some relations in the character list are grey by design, until 100% confirmed (exception being Nadia). If I've missed anyone etc or have something wrong, again feel free to let me know.
• Timeline is as accurate as I can currently get it (only relevent events) as some information is 'classified', so when it becomes apparent in the story or Tess let's it slip/leak, I'll update as required.

I hope at least one of the sheets is of use to a few of you, enjoy.


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[Assman_6969]

All that said, I don't know how she turned into such a popular character. Maybe it's the evil doctor thing.

No not really, The reason she is so popular is cause she is fucking hot as hell! Obviously being a doctor she is clearly very smart but she is a ball of fun when it is time to play and when it is not she knows that as well and does what she needs to. Not to mention at the end of the day she knows she has the most crucial ally on her side and is her bff as well and even with all that she acts and always is her true self no matter who is around! I would have her my #1 if possible but she will be very big deal in my game and I hope no matter which groups you can or get a choie from on the dom path, She is vital to who I would be picking but if it is not possible it is what it is.

I hope in some way if she can, hopefully Tess will make her like an open to pursue her in a lone path on the side or even if Kane is with .... then that chic will be told that I am gonna be with her and whoever I want while with you and even expet you and her in my bed all 3 us maybe more so deal with it and accept it or don't, not very smart or good idea, but I will be with her! The doc is just a great example how to make an awesome female character with so mant good things on top of the incredible looks she has as well. A total package woman to me!

I just hope we get a much quicker than so far MUCH MUCH BRIGHTER & SMARTER KANE that isn't just there and going along but he is taking over in every way he can & should be while still being true to his true self. instead of what he is or was in this example....(When alone with Elena inside his "PARENTS ROOM THEY STAYED IN" he says"I just want to know why they had to take off or run in the first place" Elena literally doesn't think and just answers, (this is not or maybe a bit differently worded but all the same truths) " I don't agree on how Calista kept things from you and I'm sure she could have told you many things secretly without risking her worst fears but Elena is a risk taker and I will tell you one thing now and she thought that telling anything to you could have gotten you killed or Olivia or any you". Kane asks "But Why? Who cares about that so much? It's from an OLD GRUDGE bBETWEEN ALEXANDER KARLSSON AND YOUR FATHER"..... Then he changes into his Boss suit and she takes him to Olivia for the not sister reveal not even 10 minutes maybe 20 and while they are talking THIS RETARD WHO JUST HEARD THE ANSWER TO HIS QUESTION AND MUCH MORE IF HE WAS NO IDIOT LIKE HE IS SOMETIMES BUT THE DBAG ASK OLIVIA, DOES THAT MEAN HE IS MY FATHER AS WELL?
I know Tess has been told or caught that one blunder cause Olivia tells him something like Elena got carried away and wasn't meant to talk about so much or tell too much either but as the whole shitshow they are all living it is clear that after Elena just having met up with a dead woman or a ghost lol who she thought was dead the whole time from whenever they learned she was supposed to be dead, so she probably was still very much into her feelings even miore than what she had already been in for so many reasons prior to that meeting and than even tons more we learn they was meant to talk about off camera. On that note though now Elena knows Calista is still alive and looks like they are together on the King and queen idea and what they are gonna make happen doing whatever needed to push them to each other as much possible but Elena know now that Cole is also ALIVE and will be returning sometime very soon and he is no bitch or weak at all. He is the 7th board member if not Astrid but even so he is a founder to the Karlsson Group and I am pretty sure he will be a co ceo or similar to The DeCock Syndicate with Cynthia. She seems to be very close to her bro and looks at him like a powerful force so I think in secret she when building her company had a very certain position for Cole when learning he lived but also would have known how he would have given all it to Kane just so no matter what. It's getting very good and I hope we get a Kane that is who is choosing what or who he will spend time with and choose what he is working on with all tghe power at some point and if playing like a canon like playthrough he will have Olivia as his queen and they will rule as a couple over both groups or kane as a real man who will be boss and Olivia will have power also but he will make a final say if needed ever and be final like things should be imo for those who will cry bout that or get inthier feelings but IDC!

 

[Silver_Crow117]

The doctor thing is also because of her rank/title fetish, along with the famous latex nurse outfit fetish.

I also think she applied some of her inventions to herself because she looks like she's between 17 and 19 when she's actually Veronica's age (I think she was about 30-35) .

She's around 20-21 lol

 

[Stan5851]

That's what I keep telling people about Juliette! She's just misunderstood. And that booty is to die for. At least that is K1 Kane's life's ambition.

But other than kidding, I didn't think I'd say it here...But after playing the test version on a pretty good saves ("Grey"Dom), I've changed my opinion of Jules a bit... And, oddly enough, for the better (a little). I don't know, maybe Tess has already started to work her magic in terms of changing the narrative related to Jules, but in the big scene with "Dominique, Juliette and Co" the she seemed quite sane and reasonable to me..

Usually on the Dom route I've seen her in some pretty difficult situations, like at a party on a yacht or in a sarlacc pit, but here, in a more relaxed setting, she was much more..I don't know...sensible or something.

Yes, she's still Juliette with her love of murder (you may remember her bets on who gets her head chopped off), but there's something about her that makes you look at her in a new way. (imo) Maybe it's because Kane has already started to be actively trained in human management and now Jules just doesn't have time for her sadistic antics. Who knows..

 

[krapsp3044]

How long before the Final version is release

 

[Silver_Crow117]

No not really, The reason she is so popular is cause she is fucking hot as hell! Obviously being a doctor she is clearly very smart but she is a ball of fun when it is time to play and when it is not she knows that as well and does what she needs to. Not to mention at the end of the day she knows she has the most crucial ally on her side and is her bff as well and even with all that she acts and always is her true self no matter who is around! I would have her my #1 if possible but she will be very big deal in my game and I hope no matter which groups you can or get a choie from on the dom path, She is vital to who I would be picking but if it is not possible it is what it is.

I hope in some way if she can, hopefully Tess will make her like an open to pursue her in a lone path on the side or even if Kane is with .... then that chic will be told that I am gonna be with her and whoever I want while with you and even expet you and her in my bed all 3 us maybe more so deal with it and accept it or don't, not very smart or good idea, but I will be with her! The doc is just a great example how to make an awesome female character with so mant good things on top of the incredible looks she has as well. A total package woman to me!

I just hope we get a much quicker than so far MUCH MUCH BRIGHTER & SMARTER KANE that isn't just there and going along but he is taking over in every way he can & should be while still being true to his true self. instead of what he is or was in this example....(When alone with Elena inside his "PARENTS ROOM THEY STAYED IN" he says"I just want to know why they had to take off or run in the first place" Elena literally doesn't think and just answers, (this is not or maybe a bit differently worded but all the same truths) " I don't agree on how Calista kept things from you and I'm sure she could have told you many things secretly without risking her worst fears but Elena is a risk taker and I will tell you one thing now and she thought that telling anything to you could have gotten you killed or Olivia or any you". Kane asks "But Why? Who cares about that so much? It's from an OLD GRUDGE bBETWEEN ALEXANDER KARLSSON AND YOUR FATHER"..... Then he changes into his Boss suit and she takes him to Olivia for the not sister reveal not even 10 minutes maybe 20 and while they are talking THIS RETARD WHO JUST HEARD THE ANSWER TO HIS QUESTION AND MUCH MORE IF HE WAS NO IDIOT LIKE HE IS SOMETIMES BUT THE DBAG ASK OLIVIA, DOES THAT MEAN HE IS MY FATHER AS WELL?
I know Tess has been told or caught that one blunder cause Olivia tells him something like Elena got carried away and wasn't meant to talk about so much or tell too much either but as the whole shitshow they are all living it is clear that after Elena just having met up with a dead woman or a ghost lol who she thought was dead the whole time from whenever they learned she was supposed to be dead, so she probably was still very much into her feelings even miore than what she had already been in for so many reasons prior to that meeting and than even tons more we learn they was meant to talk about off camera. On that note though now Elena knows Calista is still alive and looks like they are together on the King and queen idea and what they are gonna make happen doing whatever needed to push them to each other as much possible but Elena know now that Cole is also ALIVE and will be returning sometime very soon and he is no bitch or weak at all. He is the 7th board member if not Astrid but even so he is a founder to the Karlsson Group and I am pretty sure he will be a co ceo or similar to The DeCock Syndicate with Cynthia. She seems to be very close to her bro and looks at him like a powerful force so I think in secret she when building her company had a very certain position for Cole when learning he lived but also would have known how he would have given all it to Kane just so no matter what. It's getting very good and I hope we get a Kane that is who is choosing what or who he will spend time with and choose what he is working on with all tghe power at some point and if playing like a canon like playthrough he will have Olivia as his queen and they will rule as a couple over both groups or kane as a real man who will be boss and Olivia will have power also but he will make a final say if needed ever and be final like things should be imo for those who will cry bout that or get inthier feelings but IDC!

Doctor Chastain doesn't solo romance a dom but can a sub. (The Doc does romance dom but it's not fair to say it's entirely solo) (but keep in mind, one with Claudia will be different than Doc)

That's what I keep telling people about Juliette! She's just misunderstood. And that booty is to die for. At least that is K1 Kane's life's ambition.

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[Maviarab]

Doctor Chastain doesn't solo romance a dom but can a sub. (The Doc does romance dom but it's not fair to say it's entirely solo) (but keep in mind, one with Claudia will be different than Doc)

You should also mention that she has a SecretSub route coming too. I know you don't do Dom saves, but you are aware of this information.

 

[jadepaladin]

That's what I keep telling people about Juliette! She's just misunderstood. And that booty is to die for. At least that is K1 Kane's life's ambition.

If one of Kane's deaths isn't literally asphyxiating on Julie's ass, it's a missed opportunity.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

You should also mention that she has a SecretSub route coming too. I know you don't do Dom saves, but you are aware of this information.

Cry about it

 

[Maviarab]

Cry about it

Grow up.

I'm not the one purposefully not mentioning content just because I don't like it and want to push folk to a certain path. Funny really, as it's actually your preferred type of content. *shrugs*

 

[jadepaladin]

For example, JadePaladin's ranking makes him a JadeTerrorist for me with Patricia and Junko in the A along with other beauties, but he ranks them by what they contribute to the plot and not by absolute beauty, which is fine .

"JadeTerrorist" New handle acquired.

If I did a tier list focused solely on looks it would be vastly different. Must resist.

On another note, this is one of the VNs I want to experience every route. There's info to the overall plot literally everywhere and if I limited myself to Dom only/Sub only, I'd be working with half a deck. If a VN has mostly the same plot and routes only really affect the women, then I just pick my faves and get out (Bare Witness comes to mind). That is very much not the case here.

 

[Maviarab]

If I did a tier list focused solely on looks it would be vastly different. Must resist.

Do it JP....you know you want to

On another note, this is one of the VNs I want to experience every route. There's info to the overall plot literally everywhere and if I limited myself to Dom only/Sub only, I'd be working with half a deck. If a VN has mostly the same plot and routes only really affect the women, then I just pick my faves and get out (Bare Witness comes to mind). That is very much not the case here.

Very much agree yes, why I have as many saves as I do. There is lore and info dumps on many routes that are exclusive to them. Really does give you a much bigger picture of the overall, overarching story.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Grow up.

I'm not the one purposefully not mentioning content just because I don't like it and want to push folk to a certain path. Funny really, as it's actually your preferred type of content. *shrugs*

shrugs. Not on purpose, I just forgot to put it in there tbh don’t go off on assumptions with ur own logic… not surprising but go off king… maybe you should’ve grown up before you Made that comment on discord

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I'm leaving the sexy Angelica for all of you guys; I like my slave's complaint and bendable to my will. If I need

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, I'll call her, but other than that, I'll flirt till it's time to pick my final mate.