VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[jadepaladin]

I read Dover's message last night before going to bed and thought I would find this thread on fire today.

Me too but I'm kind of glad it didn't pan out that way. Discussions about the masks have been way more interesting than any back and forth over Tess being upset.

 

[PickerLewd]

Now that I think about this though.... it is interesting that Alessandra knows that Olivia had been spending time with Alexander... This makes Alessandra meeting Olivia in the early episodes and introducing her to the Karlsson Group very... odd...

This meeting is like the meme of two people greeting each other with a kiss while holding a knife hidden behind their backs.

Alessa is super fake and smiles at everything, but I don't believe her about how loving she is towards Olivia and she's just doing it to fulfil the Gambit. I see her thinking something like "I have to bring this poor rat into our mansion, disgusting" even if she knows that Olivia is another heiress, she didn't grow up with them and comes from a background where they had almost nowhere to sleep, just remember what Olivia's dirty flat looked like before the "abduction" (when she looks in the mirror).

For her part, Olivia plays along with Alessa's game, feigning false modesty, but she already knew where she was and what was in store for her, unlike Kane, who accepts the deal with no idea of the perverse games or the Gambit.

 

[motseer]

Best thing to do for Tess where the supposed "content controversy" is concerned...

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[Stan5851]

Err, that's not a hole in the theory though. As far as I'm concerned, Olivia 100% has spent time with Alexander Karlsson near the end of his life. I will be utterly shocked if this is not the case.

[3] Alexander Karlsson has one last request to Veronica to visit someone, and she straight up lists all the people that would refuse to see him. Surely this could only be Olivia?

And it was just the kind of killer argument (especially with the instant transition from the scene with the sick Alexander to the scene with Olivia) that could add at least 1 person to our "sect of Agent Olivia" witnesses, haha..At least now he's at least starting to consider it and not dismissing it out of hand.

 

[jadepaladin]

This meeting is like the meme of two people greeting each other with a kiss while holding a knife hidden behind their backs.

Alessa is super fake and smiles at everything, but I don't believe her about how loving she is towards Olivia and she's just doing it to fulfil the Gambit. I see her thinking something like "I have to bring this poor rat into our mansion, disgusting" even if she knows that Olivia is another heiress, she didn't grow up with them and comes from a background where they had almost nowhere to sleep, just remember what Olivia's dirty flat looked like before the "abduction" (when she looks in the mirror).

For her part, Olivia plays along with Alessa's game, feigning false modesty, but she already knew where she was and what was in store for her, unlike Kane, who accepts the deal with no idea of the perverse games or the Gambit.

Dominique and Allesandra are the two I can see betraying Olivia in a time of need. I agree 100% about Allesandra being fake. She makes the perfect "liaison" because she looks small and unassuming and then you find out way too late you've made a mistake in dealing with her. I added Dominique to the list after the talk about what she did to the miners that did good work. She gets off on it.

If Olivia didn't pick up those early AP points and score that bonus in their initial meeting, I wonder if that will come into play. It's not like Tess checks on Olivia's numbers with the other sisters all that often, but they are always in the background, ready to play a part. Same with the flag about if the prisoners are rich or poor.

 

[kinkyshin]

This meeting is like the meme of two people greeting each other with a kiss while holding a knife hidden behind their backs.

Alessa is super fake and smiles at everything, but I don't believe her about how loving she is towards Olivia and she's just doing it to fulfil the Gambit. I see her thinking something like "I have to bring this poor rat into our mansion, disgusting" even if she knows that Olivia is another heiress, she didn't grow up with them and comes from a background where they had almost nowhere to sleep, just remember what Olivia's dirty flat looked like before the "abduction" (when she looks in the mirror).

For her part, Olivia plays along with Alessa's game, feigning false modesty, but she already knew where she was and what was in store for her, unlike Kane, who accepts the deal with no idea of the perverse games or the Gambit.

Bro... if it turns out that the beginning was Olivia pretending to know nothing about Karlsson life and Alessandra pretending to not know that Olivia knows everything already and is just acting...
God damn lol...

I think I have a bad habit of jumping to conclusions too quickly, but I just realized why this VN is all about masks...
The whole play is a goddamn masquerade.

Dominique and Allesandra are the two I can see betraying Olivia in a time of need. I agree 100% about Allesandra being fake. She makes the perfect "liaison" because she looks small and unassuming and then you find out way too late you've made a mistake in dealing with her. I added Dominique to the list after the talk about what she did to the miners that did good work. She gets off on it.

If Olivia didn't pick up those early AP points and score that bonus in their initial meeting, I wonder if that will come into play. It's not like Tess checks on Olivia's numbers with the other sisters all that often, but they are always in the background, ready to play a part. Same with the flag about if the prisoners are rich or poor.

Well we know for sure that Alessandra is literally trying to get her sisters to kill each other lol.

 

[PickerLewd]

Me too but I'm kind of glad it didn't pan out that way. Discussions about the masks have been way more interesting than any back and forth over Tess being upset.

You reminded me that I need to ask Tess if some of the masks in earlier episodes are simply replacing lost masks (so some characters are represented by two different masks), or if they are simply representing new characters.

I think I'll wait a few weeks to ask .

 

[Stan5851]

We will just have to have different opinions for now. I think you are correct about Olivia meeting with Alexander toward the end of his life. For me, that doesn't infer time spent grooming, teaching and evaluating her. The fact that she might have made an effort to get along with him as his life was coming to an end seems more in line with a plan of Callista's. I could see Callista condoning a well trained and disciplined Olivia to spend a limited amount of time with her father in an effort to gain as much insight, information and understanding of the Karlsson Group as possible. If Alessandra got along with Alexander and learned that Olivia seemed to get along with him as well, it might be more likely for her to be the one to take Olivia under wing.

This is what I wanted to write, but something prevented me (perhaps my procrastination or tired eyes from lack of sleep)...I also tend to think that Alexander communicated with Olivia in a limited way and gradually transferred to her the key knowledge about the Corporation and everything that she will need to know....

And he did it also because he put great hopes on Olivia, connected with the fact that Olivia was brought up by his lovely Callista and such a daughter (without Alexander's pronounced evil), and also stuffed with knowledge of both Callista and Alexander, will be able to roll mountains and at the same time she still has chances not to turn into a monster, as Alexander became..

So maybe Olivia is his last hope... And knowing that Alexander gave Callista strict conditions and made her promise that she would put Kane (when he grows up) in a rehab program, thus allowing Gambit to get started, this pairing of Kane and Olivia was most likely pre-approved by Alexander himself.

Yes, to him, our pairing of Kane and Olivia could have been something like Adam and Eve that could have started a new lineage, but Alexander, as the father of his daughters (albeit not the best), still gave them all equal opportunity so that the worthiest of them would win the fight (Gambit). As for Kane, well ..he's notoriously irreplaceable.. (at least as long as V keeps an eye on the state of his sperm, hehe).

 

[kinkyshin]

I mean, he's the one who said he "taught" her, not me.

Whether he groomed her for 2 years straight and taught her everything he knew or gave a 5 minute incoherent rambling ted-talk I suppose is up for debate, but I don't think he would be saying things like she's his "strongest and best daughter" when he has daughters like Astrid and Veronica after just meeting her once or twice.

 

[Maviarab]

You reminded me that I need to ask Tess if some of the masks in earlier episodes are simply replacing lost masks (so some characters are represented by two different masks), or if they are simply representing new characters.

I think I'll wait a few weeks to ask .

No real need. Only a couple were replaced I believe 'for others'... and the 'new' not reused for this update. Eother way Tess won't confirm which/what, already asked

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[Maviarab]

Relates to your third paragraph. May only relate to obsessives like myself (and JP now knowing his saves) but your DarkDom save will be impacted somewhat (if on Junko route):

In test...(I already told you of this)...Junko/Revolution path is listed first in the code (SS second, Phoebe third and Dominique last). Regardless of what other flags/points you have, you will not be forwarded to any other path off this branch (even if you qualify/have the pre-reqs). The code is in place to branch off the Celeste/Phoebe path into the Dominique scene. SecretSub does not matter as you cannot get the scene anyway due to conflict back in 6 and 7. How the code works, the first qualifying code (scene - so in this case, Junko/recolution) will always play regardless of any other variables. In this instance, you lose the Dominique scene entirely and end up back at the house when Katsumi comes to collect you. If on Junko path, this is very relevent as this Dominique scene starts the DarkDom Romance path.

I have mentioned this to Tess as to whether to nuke it earlier in 7 or 8.1 or to add in the code to progress you from Junko path to the Dominique/Claudia scene and left it with her. She told me that she was conflicted about allowing both routes to play out side by side and that's why there is no forwarding code but as I played that path (one of my faves) then it either needs the code or needs stopping earlier somehow. Not mentioned it to her since (I bring something up then leave it with her) but I imgine that should be fixed in Final. Just something to bear in mind for those on both paths.

Confirmed still the same code...still not fixed in Final A2.

 

[DoverDad]

Moring guys, the 8.2 final is out on Patreon I won't be leaking any links so you have to wait for someone else to leak the links here

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Actually, Olivia being the daughter at the beginning isn't far-fetched at all and I thought mostly everyone agreed on that part?
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It pretty much is. Why would Alexander be shocked that someone he thought was perfect in Callista would raise a brilliant child? If you break down the sisters, it could only be one person whose brilliance he underestimated.
That's not even bringing up the fact that for Veronica to bring Olivia to the island to visit Alexander, she'd have to go behind Callista's back to do so since Callista wouldn't let that happen for fear of what would happen to Kane.
I'm also still waiting for somebody to tell me how Olivia's hidden brilliance would shock Alexander when, at best, Olivia met Alexander when he was dying and she would barely have time to hide it.

 

[daffyrolls94]

Hoooo wee! Primo drama right here. I saw a lot of scenes with the dom save, dunno which ones are new. Like with all porn, you fap to what is good and move on. On a more serious note I can't even imagine having to deal with dick pics and "dominate me" requests. I'd shut it down on number fucking one. Also people should really look into making stuff for themselves on daz or vam. Like in general, not just fans of this very specifically targeted vn. Not saying it's easy but eminently possible.

I cannot leave without noting that a lot of the fans of this one seem to be from Blighty. Used to be quite a scene there back during the good ol Blairties. Probably not so much these days across the ex-industrial, touristy seaside wasteland.

 

[Mwanted]

Just out of curiosity.. I've been following the game and discord with interest in the last months. This is the last message on "updates" I usually check. Is this guy talking about what has been sent to Tess (in which case I totally agree).. or what?
He can't possibly be talking about sharing the game with that tone\words, right?..

 

[Rufio]

Just out of curiosity.. I've been following the game and discord with interest in the last months. This is the last message on "updates" I usually check. Is this guy talking about what has been sent to Tess (in which case I totally agree).. or what?
He can't possibly be talking about sharing the game with that tone\words, right?..

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The minute he mentions what happens in prison he can only be talking about child stuff or snuff.
Don't think there is an overwhelming violence against pirates in prison XD

 

[Muff Diver]

Scare Tactics, Nothing more. I and others have been posting develops stuff here for years and nothing. Thats why so many dev's decided to come to the site and start there own thread's.
But best of luck to the dev.

 

[Mwanted]

The minute he mentions what happens in prison he can only be talking about child stuff or snuff.
Don't think there is an overwhelming violence against pirates in prison XD

Yeah that's what I initially thought too, but you never know so I wanted to ask.

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

Just out of curiosity.. I've been following the game and discord with interest in the last months. This is the last message on "updates" I usually check. Is this guy talking about what has been sent to Tess (in which case I totally agree).. or what?
He can't possibly be talking about sharing the game with that tone\words, right?..

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Might be related to all this stuff.

I've seen on Reddit (last few months), there has been and still ongoing big ban waves for child safety where people are intentionally sharing content that is illegal to get users banned, and randomly sending to people and channels, channels are getting banned, and other things. They have been also sharing innocent stuff from games like Marvels Rising (I think the game name) and the new character and bunch of bots reported it has underage content and got lots of people banned for sharing an image from a game, numbers in the 1,000's. They've also been doing this same thing with normal images as well so the Discord bot has been flagging lots of people and getting them banned.

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[daffyrolls94]

Might be related to all this stuff.

I've seen on Reddit (last few months), there has been and still ongoing big ban waves for child safety where people are intentionally sharing content that is illegal to get users banned, and randomly sending to people and channels, channels are getting banned, and other things. They have been also sharing innocent stuff from games like Marvels Rising (I think the game name) and the new character and bunch of bots reported it has underage content and got lots of people banned for sharing an image from a game, numbers in the 1,000's. They've also been doing this same thing with normal images as well so the Discord bot has been flagging lots of people and getting them banned.

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Wtf... others sending you illicit content gets YOU banned?!