VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[jadepaladin]

I thought I read that Veronica was walking through a museum in the future.

You know what, whatever, because I've almost got my save ready to finally play version 0.8.2 .

Are you thinking of this from the FAQ? It's about Astrid.

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[MagicMan753]

I thought I read that Veronica was walking through a museum in the future.

You know what, whatever, because I've almost got my save ready to finally play version 0.8.2 .

I know what you mean, when it first came out, it did say veronica, I remember reading it say that, but that was just typo, and she changed it to Astrid like it was supposed to say.

 

[PickerLewd]

Yes, I had had a quick read and misunderstood, I thought it was Veronica walking through the museum, but it was Astrid.

Edit: Well, it turns out I wasn't so crazy after reading what MagicMan just wrote .

 

[jadepaladin]

God this game is a mess. Might as well just call it Karlssons femdom and blue balls.

If no option to horribly murder the sister comes about than this is a failure already

You made a poor choice or two along the way if you're getting blue balled and didn't want to be.

 

[jadepaladin]

It’s mostly the norm to rule over the weak in most instances in this society…Plus a lot of the cast are indoctrinated into being ruthless from the Karlsson university at a young age… So their view on the lower cast of people are skewed… Of course, characters like Junko and Claudia are a nice variable in the matrix of this cruel world but they are susceptible of corruption… sub side and dom side…

Headache derailed my thoughts on this. Where I think I was going...

Junko knows she has to perform in order to keep her status and more importantly, her head on her shoulders. Doubly so for her father, who Dominique would 100% torment in a heartbeat if Junko started to displease her on the regular. It's also shown that Junko doesn't like to do most of the things she has to do. Pet play being an exception since that's her thing. If Junko is doing things on orders simply to survive, I don't think they should be held against her or strikes against her morality. Junko in a position where she didn't have to torment Kane and others...wouldn't. Again, pet play is an exception but I think she'd be much more lenient with it.

On the flip side, you have Katsumi. Katsumi would actively seek to harm others, even when not on orders. Katsumi exists in a world where her sadistic tendencies can flourish with basically no downsides. I really wish we got more backstory on some of the staff: Katsumi, Scarlett, and Sonya in particular. I'd love to see how Kiyomi and Katsumi came to where they are.

I don't want the entire story to slide into a large majority of the cast having dual...personalities, I can't think of a better word, based on routes. What's real Dominique? Is it a good Dominique with a good Kane hiding her sadistic nature from him? Is it evil Dominique with evil Kane sharing it and repressing her desire to fix the food crisis? I just had a moment of deja vu, like I've asked this before.

I guess my biggest concern would be...is everyone sliding a little more towards evil as the story progresses? Is Junko pre-dispositioned to get more comfortable with evil actions as the story goes along unless Kane is actively romancing her? Is Mia ever going to trim her eyebrows? The important questions.

 

[Brandu33]

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Yeah, I just begun chap8 and just realize that! Like veronica told me that if I had not agreed to participate to the game, which I did hoping to alleviate my pods turmoil, and to understand how better survive, she'd have had a "talk" with me. I checked the walkthrough, so, yep I might replay and change some stuffs to see, like now V is my sponsor but I choose to work with dominique, and apparently it changed a lot of stuff.
As for the warning, I just find it sad, it's part of nowadays people not wanting to see or hear things they're not comfortable with, to McDonald their way through life, so to speak, by having a menu of want and not.
It's a story, some part may not be of your taste, but they're relevant, so you should have them without any warning, or so I believe, to give the choice to see shortened scenes, or not to see a scene, if it's not relevant, why not, make sense even.
Anyway, thanks for your answer.

 

[PickerLewd]

I really wish we got more backstory on some of the staff: Katsumi, Scarlett, and Sonya in particular. I'd love to see how Kiyomi and Katsumi came to where they are.

This is the typical content that you put in a DLC, but because it is a product on Patreon and not about the main characters, this content will not arrive.

Mia is all right, stop with the bullying .

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Headache derailed my thoughts on this. Where I think I was going...

Junko knows she has to perform in order to keep her status and more importantly, her head on her shoulders. Doubly so for her father, who Dominique would 100% torment in a heartbeat if Junko started to displease her on the regular. It's also shown that Junko doesn't like to do most of the things she has to do. Pet play being an exception since that's her thing. If Junko is doing things on orders simply to survive, I don't think they should be held against her or strikes against her morality. Junko in a position where she didn't have to torment Kane and others...wouldn't. Again, pet play is an exception but I think she'd be much more lenient with it.

On the flip side, you have Katsumi. Katsumi would actively seek to harm others, even when not on orders. Katsumi exists in a world where her sadistic tendencies can flourish with basically no downsides. I really wish we got more backstory on some of the staff: Katsumi, Scarlett, and Sonya in particular. I'd love to see how Kiyomi and Katsumi came to where they are.

I don't want the entire story to slide into a large majority of the cast having dual...personalities, I can't think of a better word, based on routes. What's real Dominique? Is it a good Dominique with a good Kane hiding her sadistic nature from him? Is it evil Dominique with evil Kane sharing it and repressing her desire to fix the food crisis? I just had a moment of deja vu, like I've asked this before.

I guess my biggest concern would be...is everyone sliding a little more towards evil as the story progresses? Is Junko pre-dispositioned to get more comfortable with evil actions as the story goes along unless Kane is actively romancing her? Is Mia ever going to trim her eyebrows? The important questions.

It’s simple really… everyone has a little darkness in them… and specifically for KG it’s the choices we make that makes that darkness rise to the surface simple really

 

[Stan5851]

God this game is a mess. Might as well just call it Karlssons femdom and blue balls.

If no option to horribly murder the sister comes about than this is a failure already

I suspect your Kane took a wrong turn somewhere..DomKane fucked half the staff and almost all of the Karlsson sisters (some more than once). So I don't know what blue balls you're talking about here, hehe..

 

[Stan5851]

He’s not alive, neither is Veronica centuries later

I wouldn't be so adamant about Veronica, given what Tess said about her.

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So I'm quite willing to concede that in a future game by Tess herself, Veronica may well appear as the same “girl out of time” that Astrid is. And actually, Silver_Crow117, you should be on my side regarding V, not burying her early! Who are you and what have you done to our Silver?

 

[Assman_6969]

Well argued, but you proved your owner theory wrong at least about white tips. If nobody else was there, there would be no reason for her to talk to Olivia in the third person. Theres also the problem of Patricia still barely even being in Olivia's vicinity.

As for her being the daughter at the beginning there are two problems:

this line: Alexander: "I understand now and I see your real brilliance because you even fooled me didn't you?"

Why would Alexander say she fooled him when he's barely met her?

and in the implication that Callista made to Elena that she wouldn't have sent Olivia back until Alexander was dead because he absolutely didn't want her there and would've killed her if she was because he blamed her and Selena for losing Callista. Perhaps on this point, he changed his mind once he was poisoned, but that would mean that Veronica and Olivia were working behind Callista's back to get Olivia to him. It's possible, but I highly doubt that.

I guess nobody seems to remember the exact facts right out of the One Person who knows all the facts of the Gambit and the Facts on who can do what and who cannot directly from Veronica's Mouth and telling Elena and Yvette. This whole thing about which of the sisters can actually do anything to have themselves solely take over power, If so and One of the sisters could do so than there need be any reason to bring in Kane or the MC. There is only one person who doesn't need anybody to rise to the top spot and do it alone and that is a DOM KANE since right after Veronica says this to the 2 women, she adds to it saying that he will need a Karlsson sister to create a son so he can be the heir at the time he is ready and able to do so but in the dom R The mc is and always if the path is done right he will be who takes full power and maybe even over both fueding companies and this is why Olivia is also a key part in that.
When calista is speaking with Elena and she says she wants Olivia to win the gambit, that still only gets her so far but in fact what she says multiple times is as long as it helping her son as well which she is who raised the 2 and she did what was needed clearly at least from the small amount of the past we still do not have much of but she kept those 2 on the exact strongest things that they together would be unstoppable and the obvious solution to many things, but she also made sure to keep them close as in she set it up to seperate for periods of time and then knew they needed to spend time alone as they were getting older and could begin to bond on levels that would have them clearly attracted to the other and with all the doubt that they grew up with they would always have that and Calista used that as a tool to bring them close but at t he right time for them to begin the planned way the overall idea is setting things up that they are the next king and queen that is a force that was taught to address real issues instead of just acting fools and making the world worse off!

 

[Silver_Crow117]

I wouldn't be so adamant about Veronica, given what Tess said about her.

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So I'm quite willing to concede that in a future game by Tess herself, Veronica may well appear as the same “girl out of time” that Astrid is. And actually, Silver_Crow117, you should be on my side regarding V, not burying her early! Who are you and what have you done to our Silver?

Would say more but….

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[Maviarab]

Love this girl more and more

 

[Stan5851]

Love this girl more and more

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Yeah..I liked her too...In almost all of my saves she's not depraved, but it's all the more enjoyable to watch her become a dutiful "student" of Kane and Dominique and reveal herself in all her glory...I wouldn't want to see her like Celeste, but something more sane is fine. (for me)

As the saying goes, “nothing flatters a man's ego like a woman admitting her weakness” and Claudia is clear proof of that, hehe..A fragile woman like her and from danger is much more pleasant to protect than an evil creature like Charlotte, whose behavior provokes something like “seal me into the wall with your fist” every second.

 

[Bloker997]

Love this girl more and more

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Yea, we definitely need some fun with her, Celeste and Phoebe.

 

[Maviarab]

All sheets finally updated. Will upload them soon as had dinner.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Love this girl more and more

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Yeah, I thought she was going to be a Katsumi wannabe repeat, but thankfully, Tess went in with completely different information. She's upgraded the more she's developed.

 

[Maviarab]

Save Sheet, Timeline & Full Character List updated v0.8.2 FinalB

Major spoilers, more so than before. Hope they continue to prove useful to some (because, I really, really despise the subPath). Save Sheet received some major alterations, sorry, but needed doing going forward. Lot more information added to both the timeline and character sheet (new stuff learned and some stuff I'd missed/made errors on).

Now that's done, here's my own Tierlist heh

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[jadepaladin]

Now that's done, here's my own Tierlist heh

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Overall, I really have nothing to comment here but I thought of something...

Do you do the thing where the further left something is, the stronger it is in that category? Like is Cynthia more B than Juliette?

 

[Maviarab]

Overall, I really have nothing to comment here but I thought of something...

Do you do the thing where the further left something is, the stronger it is in that category? Like is Cynthia more B than Juliette?

Generally....somewhat...yes, but it's not an exact science if you get me heh. If was doing that properly there would probably be some switch-arounds I'd imagine.