VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

How about a conspiracy theory? What if Tess deleted the demon path not because of unknown harassers that none of us saw, but just so the game wouldn't have a problem with Steam moderators? (After all, on the demon path abuses and kills women, not men no one cares about).

Well, that is if no one files a complaint about KG (sub route) violating Steam's TOS. Similar to what happened with the aforementioned "No Mercy". There have already been precedents for devs having to cut content or otherwise remake their games to start complying with Patreon or Steam's rules.

P.S. For example, "Fashion Business", which is quietly sold on Patreon, was once simply banned on Steam. And although the developer promptly eliminated all violations, the mods didn't care about it.

Unless people in-game are under the USA minimum age for interacting with explicit media(18) Steam doesn't care period. From what I saw, that game you mentioned got pulled by the dev to avoid media attention. No Steam TOS broken. Steam might bend in the future if multiple countries put heat on them though.
https://f95zone.to/threads/no-mercy-v1-03a-zeratgames.163992/post-16699426

Thanks for saving me words to type! To early for me to respond to Stan the Man lol

However:

Didn't understand it anyway....there's worse on Steam. It does however now set a precedence going forward and possibly proactively that Steam may look into things more closely when specific countries decide to block the sale of said games.

For the record here Steam didn't care, it was three countries and due to the backlash the dev himself pulled his store page. However (again), this will cause certain authorities to look into things more closely once again (as has been done time and time before and let's not forget, one of Steams biggest markets is the US, where porn has always been a popular voter issue).

Steam doesn;t care about most stuff (for now at least) except school uniforms and VN's set in 'high school' due to the very, very narrow window of being 18 and not actually finished 'high school'. They are very active on not allowing this type of stuff. Why for example, Intertwined will never be on Steam.

However, that still does not change the fact that currently KG does indeed break Patreon's TOS (on explicit consent required for non-con scenes. Sorry Silver, you can big the SubPath up here all you fucking like, even when it's not the focus of conversation, but there is zero consent to anything that SubKane is subjected to (or any other slaves for that matter because again, let us be honest, they are not submissives. None!). Silver, you're in the good ole US of Orange Idiocy, you guys over there argue about adult content more than actual religious middle eastern countries, especially when it comes to politics. Especially in red States.

So, I'll say again, KG currently breaks Patreon's TOS.....the more countries like here, Canada, Australia (Germany already a pita) that outright ban the sales of 'dubious' adult games, the more politicians will involve themselves, and the more Steam will start looking closer and closer at what is on their platform, especially when it comes to very dubious content (especially whan that dubious content is paid for through certain American financial companies that also have a say on the matter).

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Next update looks to be the end of one narrative part and the start of another. Great time to take it from the start.

From what tess said it will be part 1 of the final part of this chapter, two updates away from the next part.

 

[Stan5851]

From what tess said it will be part 1 of the final part of this chapter, two updates away from the next part.

AFAIR, Tess mentioned that the next update will be split into 2 parts, each with about 2000 renders. I don't really understand why you think "two updates away from the next part". Maybe I misunderstood you, but logic says that both parts of the 0.8.3 update should be released sequentially/in sequence. I.e. first 0.8.3 pt1 and after some time 0.8.3 pt2. (final part of Ep8).

Admittedly, I'm not at all sure that the entire scope of the game show can be fit into those 4000 renders, but that's a topic for a separate discussion..

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

AFAIR, Tess mentioned that the next update will be split into 2 parts, each with about 2000 renders. I don't really understand why you think "two updates away from the next part". Maybe I misunderstood you, but logic says that both parts of the 0.8.3 update should be released sequentially/in sequence. I.e. first 0.8.3 pt1 and after some time 0.8.3 pt2. (final part of Ep8).

Admittedly, I'm not at all sure that the entire scope of the game show can be fit into those 4000 renders, but that's a topic for a separate discussion..

I spoke wrong. We're two updates from the next chapter. I was trying to say we're two updates away from the next big event, which is post-gameshow.

 

[PickerLewd]

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Corporate Development Memo 13th of April 2025

Hello everyone!

Just another weekly update, and will try and keep this organized!

1) I will just start with the simple game update first. I did another 105 renders and this brings the total to 1062 renders! This is about half of the update! I have been pretty consistent with a metric of 100 renders a week. I hope to later ramp up to a bit more as I get closer!

2) What this practically means for me is that I am going to take this week to shift to a more "big picture" and game testing type of week since I feel it's about at a point (roughly halfway) where I want to play test everything and see if/what tweaks I might want to change for my outline for the rest of the update. I might expect a lower render count this coming week due to both working on the sub poll images (kind of a tough one to do too) and a lot of game testing and kind of focusing more on big picture stuff. I feel this is about the right time to do it but it's a very critical and good part of the overall creative process for putting together a narrative, etc.

I will try and report a more formal count of all paths and where I am overall next week. But so far, I have done more dom path renders than sub so far and this will likely shift after this week to balance it out more. I am kind of where I expected to be overall right now, so nothing really negative or problematic at all so far.

3) I did cut the sub poll as I said I would since I accidently put it at 14 days versus seven. The Olivia "movie night" scenario won out. It's a pretty tough one for me personally in that it has multiple locations (it's really three distinct scenes plus a screen element in one of them) but I kind of like the idea too so I'm looking forward to working on it! This will be on my tasking for this week.

4) I have started writing the dom ideas and will try and post them this week. The sub path always gets way more submissions (I have I think only 2 dom poll suggestions right now) so I tend to do more ideas on my own for this side. I'll try and remember to only set it for seven days this time!

5) On the personal front, a mix of good and bad are impacting my time up and down for the game in the short term. I expect everything to hopefully calm down or work itself out by May. Taxes are all now done! Whew! That is a BIG lift off my back because my taxes honestly are nasty and complicated with how I individualize literally everything I can in small discrete chunks (an example being each individual rental property being its own LLC) and it takes a while to do accounting/finance for it.

I am on Lanai for two days this week (I rarely want to be too personal about certain things but will mention it's around my birthday!) so got a nice little celebration/relaxation trip for a few days with my man! One of my favorite golf courses I've ever played is there too (Bill Gates even got married on the 12th tee there!) and I haven't been there in a while as it's honestly not a good value to price/experience ROI to me! (I think visitors pay 550 dollars to play the course now yikes!)

On the negative side, the pissing content between China and the United States is currently decimating a friend of mine in China who I have used for furniture and other interior design items, etc.

The unfortunate reality now is that a 125-145+ percent tariff is not 34 percent anymore and it's beyond a practical ability to absorb the cost with no exemptions for like electronics versus our stuff. So we're looking at Indonesia stuff now and it really hurts that I'm turning away from her right now to be honest (I am very much a people person about how I deal with a business...I invest in the human/passion behind the company more than any other factor as a long-term strategy unless there are serious macro issues that override talent) but it is what it is right now.

I am still eating the entire cost of everything on my side that I ordered already (about six months out of stuff) to help her out just to survive, but I can't order new stuff right now at current prices as I have in my mind a fiduciary duty to also make sure my own employees can work and get paid too and the costs are currently going to be too high. Hopefully things change later.

One of us may have to travel to Indonesia in a month or two for a week if things don't improve with China by the summer. My business partner has never been there and I have, so I'm hoping he gets the chance to go even though he's a bit nervous about the country.

6) Steam languages are progressing -- the walkthrough/gallery/bio stuff are also moving. This stuff will take some time so I won't always be updating this every single week. But suffice to say I am trying to make sure Patrons can somehow get a way to get the Steam Version, etc. As I learn more on all of this stuff, I'll put it all together!

7) Last minor note and may as well get it out now. It is very likely I will pause billing for December 2025 and those of you that know me a little better can easily guess why But I will have an update out before then for sure and likely Steam is out by then too. But more on this later as I am being careful about being specific about especially dates/plans and such.

8) There's still a little bit of time to send dom ideas, but not too long! I'll be really trying to work on this Wednesday when I get back 100 percent.

9) I'm now looking for a second system for the game with another RTX 4090. I think it would help for both backup and having some extra rendering ability -- especially for longer/nastier rooms and animations. Daz Studio itself is in a big mess -- it CANNOT upgrade under its current version to the RTX 5090 and requires a brand new version of Daz Studio. Not a patch or update, but an entire new code (distinct from the current Daz) and version (Daz Studio 5). The 5 series will never be compatible with the current Daz 4.x versions from what they are saying.

What it means practically for now is that no one can use a 5 series card with Daz Studio for the foreseeable future. It's kind of scary looking for a 4090 because basically it's used stuff at this point and this is not my wheelhouse/area at all. So I feel like I'll be playing the silicon lottery game or something.

I always feel like I'm working so fast and that it's short but now I look up and it's a really long update! Sorry! I am rambling writer by nature (I often cut down a ton of dialogue from KG too initial versions) and need to get better at being succinct.

Please have a great week all!

Love,

Tess

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[MilesEdgeworth]

These past two posts I've been seeing a lot of Chloe. Like that chloe kane porn shoot idea, pretty creative

 

[Silver_Crow117]

However:

Steam doesn;t care about most stuff (for now at least) except school uniforms and VN's set in 'high school' due to the very, very narrow window of being 18 and not actually finished 'high school'. They are very active on not allowing this type of stuff. Why for example, Intertwined will never be on Steam.

However, that still does not change the fact that currently KG does indeed break Patreon's TOS (on explicit consent required for non-con scenes. Sorry Silver, you can big the SubPath up here all you fucking like, even when it's not the focus of conversation, but there is zero consent to anything that SubKane is subjected to (or any other slaves for that matter because again, let us be honest, they are not submissives. None!). Silver, you're in the good ole US of Orange Idiocy, you guys over there argue about adult content more than actual religious middle eastern countries, especially when it comes to politics. Especially in red States.

So, I'll say again, KG currently breaks Patreon's TOS.....the more countries like here, Canada, Australia (Germany already a pita) that outright ban the sales of 'dubious' adult games, the more politicians will involve themselves, and the more Steam will start looking closer and closer at what is on their platform, especially when it comes to very dubious content (especially whan that dubious content is paid for through certain American financial companies that also have a say on the matter).

Chill out bro, sheesh no need to be so rude

 

[Silver_Crow117]

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Corporate Development Memo 13th of April 2025

Hello everyone!

Just another weekly update, and will try and keep this organized!

1) I will just start with the simple game update first. I did another 105 renders and this brings the total to 1062 renders! This is about half of the update! I have been pretty consistent with a metric of 100 renders a week. I hope to later ramp up to a bit more as I get closer!

2) What this practically means for me is that I am going to take this week to shift to a more "big picture" and game testing type of week since I feel it's about at a point (roughly halfway) where I want to play test everything and see if/what tweaks I might want to change for my outline for the rest of the update. I might expect a lower render count this coming week due to both working on the sub poll images (kind of a tough one to do too) and a lot of game testing and kind of focusing more on big picture stuff. I feel this is about the right time to do it but it's a very critical and good part of the overall creative process for putting together a narrative, etc.

I will try and report a more formal count of all paths and where I am overall next week. But so far, I have done more dom path renders than sub so far and this will likely shift after this week to balance it out more. I am kind of where I expected to be overall right now, so nothing really negative or problematic at all so far.

3) I did cut the sub poll as I said I would since I accidently put it at 14 days versus seven. The Olivia "movie night" scenario won out. It's a pretty tough one for me personally in that it has multiple locations (it's really three distinct scenes plus a screen element in one of them) but I kind of like the idea too so I'm looking forward to working on it! This will be on my tasking for this week.

4) I have started writing the dom ideas and will try and post them this week. The sub path always gets way more submissions (I have I think only 2 dom poll suggestions right now) so I tend to do more ideas on my own for this side. I'll try and remember to only set it for seven days this time!

5) On the personal front, a mix of good and bad are impacting my time up and down for the game in the short term. I expect everything to hopefully calm down or work itself out by May. Taxes are all now done! Whew! That is a BIG lift off my back because my taxes honestly are nasty and complicated with how I individualize literally everything I can in small discrete chunks (an example being each individual rental property being its own LLC) and it takes a while to do accounting/finance for it.

I am on Lanai for two days this week (I rarely want to be too personal about certain things but will mention it's around my birthday!) so got a nice little celebration/relaxation trip for a few days with my man! One of my favorite golf courses I've ever played is there too (Bill Gates even got married on the 12th tee there!) and I haven't been there in a while as it's honestly not a good value to price/experience ROI to me! (I think visitors pay 550 dollars to play the course now yikes!)

On the negative side, the pissing content between China and the United States is currently decimating a friend of mine in China who I have used for furniture and other interior design items, etc.

The unfortunate reality now is that a 125-145+ percent tariff is not 34 percent anymore and it's beyond a practical ability to absorb the cost with no exemptions for like electronics versus our stuff. So we're looking at Indonesia stuff now and it really hurts that I'm turning away from her right now to be honest (I am very much a people person about how I deal with a business...I invest in the human/passion behind the company more than any other factor as a long-term strategy unless there are serious macro issues that override talent) but it is what it is right now.

I am still eating the entire cost of everything on my side that I ordered already (about six months out of stuff) to help her out just to survive, but I can't order new stuff right now at current prices as I have in my mind a fiduciary duty to also make sure my own employees can work and get paid too and the costs are currently going to be too high. Hopefully things change later.

One of us may have to travel to Indonesia in a month or two for a week if things don't improve with China by the summer. My business partner has never been there and I have, so I'm hoping he gets the chance to go even though he's a bit nervous about the country.

6) Steam languages are progressing -- the walkthrough/gallery/bio stuff are also moving. This stuff will take some time so I won't always be updating this every single week. But suffice to say I am trying to make sure Patrons can somehow get a way to get the Steam Version, etc. As I learn more on all of this stuff, I'll put it all together!

7) Last minor note and may as well get it out now. It is very likely I will pause billing for December 2025 and those of you that know me a little better can easily guess why But I will have an update out before then for sure and likely Steam is out by then too. But more on this later as I am being careful about being specific about especially dates/plans and such.

8) There's still a little bit of time to send dom ideas, but not too long! I'll be really trying to work on this Wednesday when I get back 100 percent.

9) I'm now looking for a second system for the game with another RTX 4090. I think it would help for both backup and having some extra rendering ability -- especially for longer/nastier rooms and animations. Daz Studio itself is in a big mess -- it CANNOT upgrade under its current version to the RTX 5090 and requires a brand new version of Daz Studio. Not a patch or update, but an entire new code (distinct from the current Daz) and version (Daz Studio 5). The 5 series will never be compatible with the current Daz 4.x versions from what they are saying.

What it means practically for now is that no one can use a 5 series card with Daz Studio for the foreseeable future. It's kind of scary looking for a 4090 because basically it's used stuff at this point and this is not my wheelhouse/area at all. So I feel like I'll be playing the silicon lottery game or something.

I always feel like I'm working so fast and that it's short but now I look up and it's a really long update! Sorry! I am rambling writer by nature (I often cut down a ton of dialogue from KG too initial versions) and need to get better at being succinct.

Please have a great week all!

Love,

Tess

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Told ya it was Dom Kane, Piledriving into action

 

[Stan5851]

These past two [psts I've been seeing a lot of Chloe. Like that chloe kane porn shoot idea, pretty creative

Yes, but the most important thing *nerd mode on* is to make sure the male slave doesn't break his neck. Let's say Kitty weighs about 45-50 kg. But this slave's arms don't look muscular enough to hold Kitty in that position for long, which means that most of the static load will be on his neck, not his arms. *nerd mode off* And this loser still has to breathe periodically, vigorously working his tongue until the shoot is over. Well, good luck to him, lol.

As for Chloe, well, it's time to fuck her brains out, and for her to show us her respect and willingness to serve our interests. I still wouldn't trust her, though.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Yes, but the most important thing *nerd mode on* is to make sure the male slave doesn't break his neck. Let's say Kitty weighs about 45-50 kg. But this slave's arms don't look muscular enough to hold Kitty in that position for long, which means that most of the static load will be on his neck, not his arms. *nerd mode off* And this loser still has to breathe periodically, vigorously working his tongue until the shoot is over. Well, good luck to him, lol.

As for Chloe, well, it's time to fuck her brains out, and for her to show us her respect and willingness to serve our interests. I still wouldn't trust her, though.

Btw the one holding up Kitty is Liam!

 

[akki_sky]

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Corporate Development Memo 13th of April 2025

Hello everyone!

Just another weekly update, and will try and keep this organized!

1) I will just start with the simple game update first. I did another 105 renders and this brings the total to 1062 renders! This is about half of the update! I have been pretty consistent with a metric of 100 renders a week. I hope to later ramp up to a bit more as I get closer!

2) What this practically means for me is that I am going to take this week to shift to a more "big picture" and game testing type of week since I feel it's about at a point (roughly halfway) where I want to play test everything and see if/what tweaks I might want to change for my outline for the rest of the update. I might expect a lower render count this coming week due to both working on the sub poll images (kind of a tough one to do too) and a lot of game testing and kind of focusing more on big picture stuff. I feel this is about the right time to do it but it's a very critical and good part of the overall creative process for putting together a narrative, etc.

I will try and report a more formal count of all paths and where I am overall next week. But so far, I have done more dom path renders than sub so far and this will likely shift after this week to balance it out more. I am kind of where I expected to be overall right now, so nothing really negative or problematic at all so far.

3) I did cut the sub poll as I said I would since I accidently put it at 14 days versus seven. The Olivia "movie night" scenario won out. It's a pretty tough one for me personally in that it has multiple locations (it's really three distinct scenes plus a screen element in one of them) but I kind of like the idea too so I'm looking forward to working on it! This will be on my tasking for this week.

4) I have started writing the dom ideas and will try and post them this week. The sub path always gets way more submissions (I have I think only 2 dom poll suggestions right now) so I tend to do more ideas on my own for this side. I'll try and remember to only set it for seven days this time!

5) On the personal front, a mix of good and bad are impacting my time up and down for the game in the short term. I expect everything to hopefully calm down or work itself out by May. Taxes are all now done! Whew! That is a BIG lift off my back because my taxes honestly are nasty and complicated with how I individualize literally everything I can in small discrete chunks (an example being each individual rental property being its own LLC) and it takes a while to do accounting/finance for it.

I am on Lanai for two days this week (I rarely want to be too personal about certain things but will mention it's around my birthday!) so got a nice little celebration/relaxation trip for a few days with my man! One of my favorite golf courses I've ever played is there too (Bill Gates even got married on the 12th tee there!) and I haven't been there in a while as it's honestly not a good value to price/experience ROI to me! (I think visitors pay 550 dollars to play the course now yikes!)

On the negative side, the pissing content between China and the United States is currently decimating a friend of mine in China who I have used for furniture and other interior design items, etc.

The unfortunate reality now is that a 125-145+ percent tariff is not 34 percent anymore and it's beyond a practical ability to absorb the cost with no exemptions for like electronics versus our stuff. So we're looking at Indonesia stuff now and it really hurts that I'm turning away from her right now to be honest (I am very much a people person about how I deal with a business...I invest in the human/passion behind the company more than any other factor as a long-term strategy unless there are serious macro issues that override talent) but it is what it is right now.

I am still eating the entire cost of everything on my side that I ordered already (about six months out of stuff) to help her out just to survive, but I can't order new stuff right now at current prices as I have in my mind a fiduciary duty to also make sure my own employees can work and get paid too and the costs are currently going to be too high. Hopefully things change later.

One of us may have to travel to Indonesia in a month or two for a week if things don't improve with China by the summer. My business partner has never been there and I have, so I'm hoping he gets the chance to go even though he's a bit nervous about the country.

6) Steam languages are progressing -- the walkthrough/gallery/bio stuff are also moving. This stuff will take some time so I won't always be updating this every single week. But suffice to say I am trying to make sure Patrons can somehow get a way to get the Steam Version, etc. As I learn more on all of this stuff, I'll put it all together!

7) Last minor note and may as well get it out now. It is very likely I will pause billing for December 2025 and those of you that know me a little better can easily guess why But I will have an update out before then for sure and likely Steam is out by then too. But more on this later as I am being careful about being specific about especially dates/plans and such.

8) There's still a little bit of time to send dom ideas, but not too long! I'll be really trying to work on this Wednesday when I get back 100 percent.

9) I'm now looking for a second system for the game with another RTX 4090. I think it would help for both backup and having some extra rendering ability -- especially for longer/nastier rooms and animations. Daz Studio itself is in a big mess -- it CANNOT upgrade under its current version to the RTX 5090 and requires a brand new version of Daz Studio. Not a patch or update, but an entire new code (distinct from the current Daz) and version (Daz Studio 5). The 5 series will never be compatible with the current Daz 4.x versions from what they are saying.

What it means practically for now is that no one can use a 5 series card with Daz Studio for the foreseeable future. It's kind of scary looking for a 4090 because basically it's used stuff at this point and this is not my wheelhouse/area at all. So I feel like I'll be playing the silicon lottery game or something.

I always feel like I'm working so fast and that it's short but now I look up and it's a really long update! Sorry! I am rambling writer by nature (I often cut down a ton of dialogue from KG too initial versions) and need to get better at being succinct.

Please have a great week all!

Love,

Tess

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why hiyori is giving tongue to angelica and not to olivia. In dom path we don't see much action with olivia. It's great when they enjoy together like that scene in olivia house pool when elena ordered zach and amy to give oral. It's what I wish could happen in future that they start their everyday like that and later end day with sex. and everything else happening in between.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

So what are you guys looking forward to in part 3 of episode 8

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

So what are you guys looking forward to in part 3 of episode 8

On dom, more things with angelica

On the secret sub split off dom, to see if Alessandra let's more people in on it(some secret)

On sub, to see if faction relations will come into play since that actually matters more there than dom route.

 

[kinkyshin]

IDK what will or won't be in part 3, but if Kane goes to the DeKock sub on the revolution route then I'm definitely looking forward to that.

The dinner could be interesting too, in one of the previews it looked like Stefan was arguing with one of the bitches from New Paris. It'll be interesting to see if Dominique is shitting her pants at dinner or not. Also, Angelica said that 'more than one Karlsson is nervous' about the DeKocks not showing up, so I'm curious about that too.

Maybe I'm not remembering properly here, but I think Tess made a comment before that Kane will finally be able to die on the sub routes in this episode? So, that will be interesting if that's the case.

 

[jadepaladin]

So what are you guys looking forward to in part 3 of episode 8

Angelica. Finding out about Liam. Hopefully some evil Dominique.

I imagine some of my saves will end if Kane can be killed in pt 3.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

On dom, more things with angelica

On the secret sub split off dom, to see if Alessandra let's more people in on it(some secret)

On sub, to see if faction relations will come into play since that actually matters more there than dom route.

Alessandra just using leverage of a secret even tho for the most part, it’s not anymore
Yeah for faction heavy based stuff will be more apparent in episode 9… apparently choices will matter even more from that point!

Maybe I'm not remembering properly here, but I think Tess made a comment before that Kane will finally be able to die on the sub routes in this episode? So, that will be interesting if that's the case.

Yeah, Anyone From Pod 4 (Jake, Zach, Kane) and also Liam (the blond) can die in part 3… there’s already A flag for k1 Kane being labeled as “SamElenak1” if you refuse to join Olivia’s faction offer…

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Few updates away but the thing I want most is the kane nadia bro sis moment. Second, the callista kane reunion.

 

[akki_sky]

So what are you guys looking forward to in part 3 of episode 8

I'm most interested in Charolette storyline. mc already has phoebe support and got house in new paris, so i'm curious about how she is going to test him to give her support to mc. after ep8 there might be chance that mc may travel to new paris as his test to work on something there because it was already said in game that mc and kwame will go outside for work and mc also has to explore his new home. Now i only play dom paths but i read in walkthrough that during charolette scene in sub, olivia decide to shoot someone to get her points. I don't like that whipping idea. so let's see what she will ask mc to do.

Now as mileseddgeworth said above, mc and nadia will most likely meet and talk with cole and callista on video call because both of them most likely stayed there. It could even be cliffhanger at the end of ep8, mc will see them on screen and ep will end before they talk.

Now what i hoped with mc and nadia that they should hang out and have fun together. I would like there scene but dev might not go for incest as she is not even showing karlsson sister together. But atleast they should have fun together like we have seen with dominique and juliatte in last part. we heard that nadia is evil like juliatte, so scenes like juliatte boat party and that scene with juliatte and mercy at start of ep 8. i'm expecting something like that from nadia scenes. i'm hoping nadia to stay closer to mc always to help him as true ally.

Since long time, I'm waiting for kiyomi physical training as everyday routine. now we have seen tennis scene as start of kiyomi training but i'm waiting for herself.

But for ep8 part3, i hope that we get to play every scene because in last part we don't get juliatte sex scene if we do whipping scene with mercy. Juliatte is like my favorite. i can only let go of olivia for juliatte and skipping her scene is criminal. So scene with every vip and juliatte should be playable.

 

[kinkyshin]

I'm most interested in Charolette storyline.

Hell yea. I feel like everyone here hates Charlotte. I actually despised her at first as well, but I love her now.

Juliette is like the boogeyman when you're on the loser track, but she's not really that scary when you're on the dom route. And as a villain in general she feels like... inept and cartoonishly evil. Charlotte on the other hand feels like a much better villain to me. Maybe it's just me but this bitch feels genuinely terrifying even on the dom route.

I wouldn't mind an evil Kane romance with Charlotte either (She has a very regal feel to her. More so than any of the Karlsson girls IMO. Also, imagine Callista's horror to discovering her son with Charlotte lol. I have a feeling they've met before or are at least very well aware of each other and are supposed to be opposites. If Callista dies I wouldn't be surprised if Charlotte plays a role in it.), but sadly I don't think it's going to be much of a thing. I'm not sure she's even going to be that big of a character because Tess hasn't really mentioned her at all in that Faction Summary thing she wrote and no one seems to care much for her.

 

[akki_sky]

Hell yea. I feel like everyone here hates Charlotte. I actually despised her at first as well, but I love her now.

Juliette is like the boogeyman when you're on the loser track, but she's not really that scary when you're on the dom route. And as a villain in general she feels like... inept and cartoonishly evil. Charlotte on the other hand feels like a much better villain to me. Maybe it's just me but this bitch feels genuinely terrifying even on the dom route.

I wouldn't mind an evil Kane romance with Charlotte either (She has a very regal feel to her. More so than any of the Karlsson girls IMO. Also, imagine Callista's horror to discovering her son with Charlotte lol. I have a feeling they've met before or are at least very well aware of each other and are supposed to be opposites. If Callista dies I wouldn't be surprised if Charlotte plays a role in it.), but sadly I don't think it's going to be much of a thing. I'm not sure she's even going to be that big of a character because Tess hasn't really mentioned her at all in that Faction Summary thing she wrote and no one seems to care much for her.

Those who played sub paths might be hating charolette and juliatte, but i never played sub paths. In dom path juliatte is very friendly in ep8 and her enthusiasm does feel like cartoonish but she is fun evil character.

One of the ending i think is where mc gets to lead new paris faction, so that makes charolette one of the main character because according to celest she is kind of head bitch there. That's why i think her storyline is important. she will like mc with demon tag so her test will be somewhat interesting.
she does have regal vibe.

As elena said mc maybe need to make decision soon about his future partner for peace between all faction. So charolette support is vital for everything. That's why mc needs to travel to new paris, spend few days working for charolette and earn her trust. when every faction trust mc then only mc can lead that also means working something with decocks.