VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Silver_Crow117]

To be honest, it's not that big of a problem, and I calmly (well, like calmly, clenched fists) watched the Purple Room scene and then the other scenes from that party, because when watching the Purple Room scene through the Sancho Gallery, the selection still works and you can skip to the next room. So I even got to see a violent scene from the BlackRoom..and that sacrifice on my part was made for one thing - I wanted to know more about who Kane's real sister was, hehe..

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Ah I’ve done both dom and sub and as you know, I like the sub paths way better, for the reasons I’ve already stated… But yeah I definitely noticed Nadia’s compassion towards Sub Kane a lot more.. hopefully wwet more interactions with Nadia in both playstyles soon! Especially with how Juliette was taunting Nadia… we’ll see how the Decocks strike back in both playstyles

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[MilesEdgeworth]

I can neither confirm nor deny this because I only play the dom routes, but just the other day I saw a post here saying that Nadia is showing some concern for KaneSub. So it's better to ask this question to sub players..
What kind of bitch are we talking about? There's a lot of them in the game..)

Callistas special let my train my blood son for something but don't tell him what dumb ass. If there's no past explanation for her actions, if tess allows it my kane so gonna get in her ass about that.

 

[PickerLewd]

Ah I’ve done both dom and sub and as you know, I like the sub paths way better, for the reasons I’ve already stated […]

I only played K4 and K8, is it true that if you fall in K1, Kane dies? I mean like the typical "game over" of the old games .

 

[Sharpshooter890]

I only played K4 and K8, is it true that if you fall in K1, Kane dies? I mean like the typical "game over" of the old games .

Kane can die, but not yet. The lowest you can get is a provisional K1, but I think we are getting pretty close to a proper K1.

Callistas special let my train my blood son for something but don't tell him what dumb ass. If there's no past explanation for her actions, if tess allows it my kane so gonna get in her ass about that.

That's why on my sub playthrough (assuming I survive and there is an option) I absolutely will kill both Olivia and Callista, strangle the bitches with my bare hands for all the suffering they caused.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I only played K4 and K8, is it true that if you fall in K1, Kane dies? I mean like the typical "game over" of the old games .

We are two updates from shit going down ( after the gameshow). I imagine that's when Kane will be able to die and likely when others start making their big moves. Some deaths will likely start happening then ( non-nurse deaths anyway).

 

[Silver_Crow117]

I only played K4 and K8, is it true that if you fall in K1, Kane dies? I mean like the typical "game over" of the old games .

K1 can eventually lead to a dead ending but I will say that having a sponsorship from characters might save you from that..fate… Tess also said this about choosing if sponsorships lock you into their respective factions

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[Maviarab]

Callistas special let my train my blood son for something but don't tell him what dumb ass. If there's no past explanation for her actions, if tess allows it my kane so gonna get in her ass about that.

Kane can die, but not yet. The lowest you can get is a provisional K1, but I think we are getting pretty close to a proper K1.

That's why on my sub playthrough (assuming I survive and there is an option) I absolutely will kill both Olivia and Callista, strangle the bitches with my bare hands for all the suffering they caused.

Pfff...hardly their fault your dumb asses failed a simple test

Y'all obviously spent too much time with Jake boosting cars

 

[PickerLewd]

We are two updates from shit going down ( after the gameshow). I imagine that's when Kane will be able to die and likely when others start making their big moves. Some deaths will likely start happening then ( non-nurse deaths anyway).

I didn't remember very well the rules of the gambit that are explained at the beginning (I thought that being K1 was an immediate execution and that being K2 was the lowest to be able to continue playing ). Good to know .

 

[Silver_Crow117]

We are two updates from shit going down ( after the gameshow). I imagine that's when Kane will be able to die and likely when others start making their big moves. Some deaths will likely start happening then ( non-nurse deaths anyway).

You won’t see this in part 1, even tho Miss Tess tried to fit it in there, but There’s a chance Kane could die in part 2… by the sounds of it, might be accidental HAHAHA but yea Kane, Olivia, Seth, Jake, etc. can die… pretty much only three characters are confirmed to be safe (1 of them being Astrid.. it’ll be interesting to see who’s in which faction and how that can affect who we save or not… I’m assuming Sub Kane can save characters just like he did with Nurse Reyes but who knows…

 

[Stan5851]

Callistas special let my train my blood son for something but don't tell him what dumb ass. If there's no past explanation for her actions, if tess allows it my kane so gonna get in her ass about that.

Actually, the explanation for this is quite simple (in my opinion) and it lies not in Callista's ideas about Kane, but in the presentation of the story to the player. If Callista had told Kane everything, there would have been no surprises and the game would have lost some of its appeal. So, secrets are dosed carefully and gradually, and even Olivia doesn't know everything (and what she does know, she doesn't tell).

I think that's reasonable...Kane is already playing the role of "Neo, the chosen one" in many ways, and if all the secrets are revealed on top of that, the game could be over. However, I do agree that Kane could have been a bit more savvy and understood a bit more than he should have. But to blame Callista for this.. no, she did the best she could... And if Kane and Olivia, despite Callista's virtuous upbringing, did veer into the grey areas of morality, it's certainly not her fault.. Yeah, I don't really like the fact that Olivia is the girl with the golden spoon in her mouth and we have to do everything ourselves, but it's not appropriate to complain about it either, because as you know, our Kane can rise pretty high (or fall) if you wants to.

 

[motseer]

Actually, the explanation for this is quite simple (in my opinion) and it lies not in Callista's ideas about Kane, but in the presentation of the story to the player. If Callista had told Kane everything, there would have been no surprises and the game would have lost some of its appeal. So, secrets are dosed carefully and gradually, and even Olivia doesn't know everything (and what she does know, she doesn't tell).

I think that's reasonable...Kane is already playing the role of "Neo, the chosen one" in many ways, and if all the secrets are revealed on top of that, the game could be over. However, I do agree that Kane could have been a bit more savvy and understood a bit more than he should have. But to blame Callista for this.. no, she did the best she could... And if Kane and Olivia, despite Callista's virtuous upbringing, did veer into the grey areas of morality, it's certainly not her fault.. Yeah, I don't really like the fact that Olivia is the girl with the golden spoon in her mouth and we have to do everything ourselves, but it's not appropriate to complain about it either, because as you know, our Kane can rise pretty high (or fall) if you wants to.

Wow! If Kane is "Neo, the chosen one", ... he definitely should be taller. Jus' Sayin'

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Actually, the explanation for this is quite simple (in my opinion) and it lies not in Callista's ideas about Kane, but in the presentation of the story to the player. If Callista had told Kane everything, there would have been no surprises and the game would have lost some of its appeal. So, secrets are dosed carefully and gradually, and even Olivia doesn't know everything (and what she does know, she doesn't tell).

I think that's reasonable...Kane is already playing the role of "Neo, the chosen one" in many ways, and if all the secrets are revealed on top of that, the game could be over. However, I do agree that Kane could have been a bit more savvy and understood a bit more than he should have. But to blame Callista for this.. no, she did the best she could... And if Kane and Olivia, despite Callista's virtuous upbringing, did veer into the grey areas of morality, it's certainly not her fault.. Yeah, I don't really like the fact that Olivia is the girl with the golden spoon in her mouth and we have to do everything ourselves, but it's not appropriate to complain about it either, because as you know, our Kane can rise pretty high (or fall) if you wants to.

I get it from a storyline POV. However, as a character, the shit that Callista is responsible for in regards to Kane is fucked up. She is putting Kane in danger without his consent for whatever reason. There's a part of me that enjoys what Callista must be feeling watching her supposed virtuous son and daughter go dark despite her "teachings" because she put them in a situation in the first place

 

[Maviarab]

Wow! If Kane is "Neo, the chosen one", ... he definitely should be taller. Jus' Sayin'

Hey...no height shaming

 

[motseer]

Hey...no height shaming

Hey! There's no shame in being tall!

 

[Maviarab]

Hey! There's no shame in being tall!

Alright..you asked for it...

 

[Stan5851]

I get it from a storyline POV. However, as a character, the shit that Callista is responsible for in regards to Kane is fucked up. She is putting Kane in danger without his consent for whatever reason. There's a part of me that enjoys what Callista must be feeling watching her supposed virtuous son and daughter go dark despite her "teachings" because she put them in a situation in the first place.

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In any case, I'm sure that Tess will sooner or later (if we assume Callista is alive) arrange for our Kane to meet Callista, where everything will become clear and we will understand the true reasons for this brilliant woman's actions.

 

[Maviarab]

I simply have nothing to complain about, except maybe the fact that my Bugatti Veyron only has 3 passenger seats, hehe

Bwahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa

As for the actual topic...I'm going to give you all a slightly different take on it.

If we assume Calista knew they would both at some point, somehow, be 'summoned' for the Gambit (assuming she was fully aware of Alexander's plans to have a gambit, which I think she was)...then it is entirely possible as Stan pointed out, that it may have been a condition of his.

However, if we look at this from a logical and rational perspective, knowing how brilliant of a mind Calista had, knowing about Alexander's real true final wishes (male heir), then Calista would have known that whatever happens to Kane, as was mentioned before, he is the Neo of this story in a way, especially on the dom path. All the sisters know how important he is, many of the staff also and many even bring this up. On the dom path, he is almost an untouchable God in a way who 'will' rise the ranks. Because, ultimately, he is the single only person who can realise Alexander's wishes (if we forget Seth for a moment, who may or may not actually be Calista's son).

Olivia on the other hand...is just another sister ultimately and completely not required for the Gambit to be successful, there are five other sisters available to bare a male heir with Kane (whether he on the sub or dom path is irelevent to him making babies). So if we continue that particular train of thought, surely (as far as Calista is concenred) it is far better, more logical and far more beneficial to train Olivia up to a standard where she can 'compete' with her half-siblings, given how ruthless, cut-throat and downright dangerous they can all be (yes, even your fave soft-freckled red head lol).

Kane really has a free pass to baby making heaven with a sister (at least for those board members actively trying to achieve Alexander's ultimate wishes) providing he doesn't royally fuck it up for himself. He doesn't even need to be made of aware of this, as everyone else is.

Olivia...she is very much on her own really against the rest of them....

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

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In any case, I'm sure that Tess will sooner or later (if we assume Callista is alive) arrange for our Kane to meet Callista, where everything will become clear and we will understand the true reasons for this brilliant woman's actions.

It's a fuckup regardless she put Kane in a situation where the possibility that he could die is more than zero and she didn't even bother training him for it. For all this hiding, she could've easily bought him over to the decocks and they would've been comfortable and safe but instead, they were raised in what appears to be poverty, Kane's life was likely swapped for a seth cure and Olivis wound up right where she would've been to begin with, the only real difference is that she didn't have Alexander fucking with her.

Kane really has a free pass to baby making heaven with a sister (at least for those board members actively trying to achieve Alexander's ultimate wishes) providing he doesn't royally fuck it up for himself. He doesn't even need to be made of aware of this, as everyone else is.

Olivia...she is very much on her own really against the rest of them....

Does he? Cuz there is a situation where he could very much be kept alive until he provides a male heir and easily get disposed of afterwards. As a matter of fact, with Veronica around, they really just need to get his sperm and have Veronica make designer babies. Olivia's protected by the Karlssons and Elena, and Kane is very much in that gambit by himself with little to no protection. There is a very likely possibility that everybody but Kane can benefit from the situation.

 

[phoenix1994]

Was it even found out what were flags for kiyomi romance?

 

[SlowGoesSlow]

Was it even found out what were flags for kiyomi romance?

The only Kiyomi romance flag I remember is for Seth iirc.