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The identity of Grym Gudinna pt. 2
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For the longest time, the most likely candidate for who could be Grym Gudinna has always been Alessandra, but I have always been hellbent in trying to prove otherwise (despite the mountain of evidence that supports this claim).

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So why then would anyone in their right mind try to dispute Grym Gudinna's identity when there is so much evidence pointing towards Alessandra? Well, it mostly comes down to this quote:
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Why in the actual fuck would Callista be telling Alessandra to turn Kane in her direction, when we know she desperately wants Olivia to win the Gambit with Kane? I would go as far as to say that this line has exclusively been the source of all doubt of Grym Gudinna's identity.

While we didn't know exactly what the World States were, we had a general idea, and Alessandra was initially only a possible option with Kane in World State A (which has now been confirmed with the Faction Summary to be the Gambit Success route).

Here is an older (outdated) Faction Summary:
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However, the Faction Summary that's been released since has changed certain things around. Alessandra now appears to not be a romantic option on any of the Gambit paths, and certainly not a leader on any of those paths. But instead has actually been changed only being available to Kane on World States B and C.

This means that while we had no reason to believe that Alessandra wasn't capable of winning the Gambit in the past, there is now extremely strong evidence that says she cannot. This would make sense why Callista would be telling her to push Kane into her direction -- as she is not an actual threat to Olivia at least when it comes to the Gambit. (By the way, while you could argue that Alessandra simply doesn't want to be the leader, because she claims so, according to the faction sheet, she can become the leader of Faction C, so I don't think it's simply that she doesn't want to be a leader, but possibly she is simply not eligible for the Gambit for some reason. But it could be either)

Callista has also hinted that GrymGudinna could be redeemed in their conversation... The Faction Summary has also proven this to actually be possible with a little help from everyone's favorite redhead.

Anyways, I've completely given up trying to prove that Grym Gudinna isn't Alessandra because it's too ridiculous at this point, and will instead look for a new theory to peddle.
Lmao that's what I get for not reading all the way through before reacting. I had that scene bought up and ready to argue too. shame lolz
 
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BTW, am I the only person that had no clue where the Joy Facility was?

Like 50 playthroughs and I always assumed it was just at like Cape Town or an island just off the coast of South Africa.

Finally I googled it and it's all the way here in the middle of nowhere lol... caught me off guard
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I't actually a damp and cold place IRL, Napoleon was exiled there after Waterloo (1st exile was on Elba) and it probably contributed to his death. Unless he was poisoned with arsenic by the cowardly british.

Anyways, it's no Goa or Hawaii. Tbh, the worldbuilding in KG makes no sense, since they have all these fancy yachts and helicopters, but no manufacturing facilities to build and maintain them. I just ignore it and look at tiddies.
 

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BTW, am I the only person that had no clue where the Joy Facility was?

Like 50 playthroughs and I always assumed it was just at like Cape Town or an island just off the coast of South Africa.

Finally I googled it and it's all the way here in the middle of nowhere lol... caught me off guard
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Yes...just you. This is easily deducted from the flight time with Kitty/Kane on the Dom route, long before our first 'work experience'.
;)

More importantly, if we go off render names....then Astrid is in Hawaii....how the fuck does Yvette easily travel (without being questioned) 10k miles? That's not a simple trip time wise.
 
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akki_sky

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The identity of Grym Gudinna pt. 2
View attachment 4823871


For the longest time, the most likely candidate for who could be Grym Gudinna has always been Alessandra, but I have always been hellbent in trying to prove otherwise (despite the mountain of evidence that supports this claim).

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So why then would anyone in their right mind try to dispute Grym Gudinna's identity when there is so much evidence pointing towards Alessandra? Well, it mostly comes down to this quote:
View attachment 4823890

Why in the actual fuck would Callista be telling Alessandra to turn Kane in her direction, when we know she desperately wants Olivia to win the Gambit with Kane? I would go as far as to say that this line has exclusively been the source of all doubt of Grym Gudinna's identity.

While we didn't know exactly what the World States were, we had a general idea, and Alessandra was initially only a possible option with Kane in World State A (which has now been confirmed with the Faction Summary to be the Gambit Success route).

Here is an older (outdated) Faction Summary:
View attachment 4823902
However, the Faction Summary that's been released since has changed certain things around. Alessandra now appears to not be a romantic option on any of the Gambit paths, and certainly not a leader on any of those paths. But instead has actually been changed only being available to Kane on World States B and C.

This means that while we had no reason to believe that Alessandra wasn't capable of winning the Gambit in the past, there is now extremely strong evidence that says she cannot. This would make sense why Callista would be telling her to push Kane into her direction -- as she is not an actual threat to Olivia at least when it comes to the Gambit. (By the way, while you could argue that Alessandra simply doesn't want to be the leader, because she claims so, according to the faction sheet, she can become the leader of Faction C, so I don't think it's simply that she doesn't want to be a leader, but possibly she is simply not eligible for the Gambit for some reason. But it could be either)

Callista has also hinted that GrymGudinna could be redeemed in their conversation... The Faction Summary has also proven this to actually be possible with a little help from everyone's favorite redhead.

Anyways, I've completely given up trying to prove that Grym Gudinna isn't Alessandra because it's too ridiculous at this point, and will instead look for a new theory to peddle.
I think Grym Guadinna is not same person every time we see them. I think first time in temple, it was Alessandra.

Then during boat visit it was Veronica, because Calista mentioned it later when she asked Veronica about Cole that she was aware about him during boat visit but not prior. But we know Veronica was aware about everything at least before Kane arrived at Karlsson facility. So first visit happened after Kane at karlsson facility, then it's possible it was not Veronica at temple.

Then when that bracelete or something was slipped into Kane's pants. That time it could even be Kiyomi. Because she knows best how to slip past security.

So i think Grym Gudinna is group of Calista, Alessandra, Veronica, Kiyomi and kiyomi's mother if she is alive.
 
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I think Grym Guadinna is not same person every time we see them. I think first time in temple, it was Alessandra.

Then during boat visit it was Veronica, because Calista mentioned it later when she asked Veronica about Cole that she was aware about him during boat visit but not prior. But we know Veronica was aware about everything at least before Kane arrived at Karlsson facility. So first visit happened after Kane at karlsson facility, then it's possible it was not Veronica at temple.

Then when that bracelete or something was slipped into Kane's pants. That time it could even be Kiyomi. Because she knows best how to slip past security.

So i think Grym Gudinna is group of Calista, Alessandra, Veronica, Kiyomi and kiyomi's mother if she is alive.
You realise they ARE different masks right? Red tips and White tips. One is all but confirmed to be V yes. We are not talking about her....
 

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As tempting as it would be to add another mystery to this game, Tess herself pretty much confirmed in this thread that they are different people lolz
Maybe she lied? Maybe, it was for the sole purpose of throwing you off the scent, Miles... :devilish:
 

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The SS route (as well as pure Sub) doesn't appeal to me, but it's rather amusing that in SS routeAlessa appears to be able to be "turned to the light", in case the player makes certain choices and if Angelica takes over and Alessa submits to her. Well, you already know that, but I still have a hard time imagining this "Сruel Goddess" submitting to someone who is a priori below her in social status (Angelica).
Alessandra has made a couple of mentions about this though.

a "Celeste! Don't you go there. The Karlsson Group is a meritocracy and we'll have none of your world's nonsense here! Even with our assets!"

a "Oh it does [pname]! And don't forget to use Mistress consistently. But back to you...I personally don't believe your mother should matter at all."
a "You should be judged on your own merit, but the fact remains that most of the Board feels differently. They literally see you as good genetics."
a "But I look at you as an individual. And right now, you're just a man who's slaving away for my enjoyment...and licking my tub. So do it."

The problem is that Alessandra just always lies about everything so it's hard to get a good read on her. And we definitely haven't seen everything from her.
 
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Corporate Development Memo 12th of May 2025

Hi everyone,

For those of you that celebrate Mother's Day, I hope it went great! My family and two others that have been our close friends for years all did our own dinners but then later we all got together to celebrate the mothers! I've had some absolutely epic fights with my mother over the years as we're both honestly fire breathing dragons that are quite strong willed, but I love her so much and appreciate that she's the main reason I have a strong work ethic and sense of purpose in life. She's an amazing woman and I never take for granted how fortunate I've been with having such a great mom!

I always encourage everyone to tell your loved ones how much you love them and how meaningful they are in your life. So make sure and do that...often :)

1) Basic update info:

I will likely release the dom poll set tomorrow as I am cleaning up a few more renders. The set ended up (as usual) bigger than I wanted but I felt some guilt about not wanting to shortchange the dom side after doing a monstrous length sub poll set of 91 images.

Overall, I kind of did a lot this week.

60 game renders --> 1,366 renders

67 dom poll renders (likely will release this tomorrow)

Total renders done: 127

20 animations finalized (total animations I am likely to use so far for this update is now 33 animations as of now)

In an ideal week, maybe I did 90 game renders and just 37 poll renders but it's ok. I don't mind going off script here and there.


I feel this was a pretty good week, especially considering how much time I spent on all three different areas listed above. (the last takes quite a while to do which most creators know of course)

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2) Game Endings


I have been outlining some tweaks to my endings as well this week. I have been doing kind of a long view of everything and I feel I want to create a few deeper paths for some characters but shallow a few others so to speak. I am still working on this over the next month for sure so I will hold off on detailed specifics until I have more clarity. But I am likely to add three new endings, and eliminate two planned endings I had outlined prior...so I am likely to have 16 endings versus 15 now.

3) Preview Images

Just sharing that the first four images are from the dom path and the next small set from the sub path.

4) Big Picture

The update is actually getting pretty close towards the last arc/part. Once I work I think another month (crossing likely 1700-1800 renders) I think it will be getting pretty close!

5) Daz Studio 2025 (RTX 5090)

As I said prior, Daz Studio (the rendering program) has a new beta that can use the new 5000 series video cards. This is big down the road because if the program can work with a 5090, the VRAM that is usable can go from 24 to 32 VRAM. This is a BIG help for me for larger scenes because the truth is that I have had to abandon multiple scene ideas because of this memory issue. I have dreamed of a specific party scene for years and I have had to abandon a lot of this because I simply cannot pull it off properly - in terms of how I imagine it - due to VRAM limits. So I am hopeful that (likely in 6+ months so more for later updates than this one) a final version will come out down the road that works out all the kinks/problems. (currently there are definitely a lot of issues as it's a pure early access/beta version, etc.)

One random example of the issues are that it can't do yet a full render queue list which means I can't yet load say 40 renders and leave it on to render them all over and over smoothly while I sleep. But I'm testing it on my old RTX 3090 system here and there...

6) Steam

Not speaking too much on this yet, but I'm progressing. Two languages are nearly done, and some other features are in progress. I'll share more when ready but I am quietly working on this when time permits.

Of course...I want to figure out a way to get Patrons this version with keys or some other way.

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Please have a great week all! I am up pretty late writing this after a long family night so I apologize in advance if my writing is a bit off. (It's almost 2 am!)

I will diligently work on some tweaks with the dom poll set and hope to have it out in its own post soon (67 images). Thanks all!

Love,

Tess

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kinkyshin

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I know a lot of people here hate the sub scenes, but they looks so funny to me sometimes. How can you see those last couple and not laugh at the poor schmucks? I mean I guess a lot of people self insert as Kane, I get it, but since I don't, it's just funny to me. It's too bad Olivia has less gameplay choices, I often feel like she's actually playing more of a "game" than Kane is, regardless of path.
This bitch stepping on Giga Thad is no laughing matter to me.
 

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This bitch stepping on Giga Thad is no laughing matter to me.
I'm more interested in knowing if the special heated strap-ons are going to be used outside of k1/k2 now. Looks a bit different than Juliette's, so hopefully it's just a glow stick, but still pretty wicked for a k4.:eek:
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I'm more interested in knowing if the special heated strap-ons are going to be used outside of k1/k2 now. Looks a bit different than Juliette's, so hopefully it's just a glow stick, but still pretty wicked for a k4.:eek:
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Custom renders give glimpses to a different reality :Kappa:
 

akki_sky

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Celest plan is gone. dom kane and kiyomi path is gone. dominique dark path also gone. I mean abandon that entire dom paths already. what is going on.

I don't care about celest but she and alessandra had some potential for future crazy scenes. At this rate we will see very soft dom paths in future.

I don't know how every cruel scene in dom path affects dev but she is fine with hardcore sub scenes.
 

Stan5851

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dominique dark path also gone.
This route has gone nowhere and is more than relevant. In addition, as far as I know, this route might even be expanded by introducing Juliette there, whose extremely evil content ("demon Kane" flag) players were deprived of earlier.

In fact, we've already seen the first hints of this expanded route in 0.8.2 with a big scene with Dominique, Jules, Dr. Chastain and Mercy.This doesn't mean we'll be deprived of the evil Dominique "solo" route, but it will be great if/when there's an opportunity to subdue both sisters at once (which, btw, is hinted at in the faction sheet).
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