VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Stan5851]

Astrid will only be a LI for MC in TQA, not KG.

Well, I remember that, but who knows, we'll see. As practice has shown, Tess can change her mind about certain characters and their availability/unavailability to players. Also, TQA is not Tess's personal game (although she is the primary author writing the dialogs), but Anais's game, which Tess simply allowed to use some of the characters and lore elements from her (Tess's) own game universe...So, KG and everything that happens in it is a priori more canon and more important than any TQA. (imo)

 

[kinkyshin]

Also, do you remember where Cole is located?

I remember at some point, they mention there is a place of relevance just north east of the wastelands but I can't remember why. If that's where he is, then that's quite the distance for Kiyomi to have just showed up to on a whim... also it was snowing there, I wouldn't think it snows much in northern Africa.

BTW, I went back and checked... the place I was talking about was just this place... definitely not where Cole is located lol.

 

[Stan5851]

BTW, I went back and checked... the place I was talking about was just this place... definitely not where Cole is located lol.

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As I recall, what is written on your screenshot is a kind of cameo and reference to the events taking place in the game Desert Stalker. So Cole is definitely work not in that desert.

 

[Maviarab]

BTW, I went back and checked... the place I was talking about was just this place... definitely not where Cole is located lol.

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It is never explicitly implied where Cole is.....given where I think Astrid is (Hawaii)...he really could be anywhere. Have to remember, too many people think the world (Earth) has completely collapsed. It hasn't, there are still many,. many peoiple living all over the world, jusdt there are serious economic and food issues etc due to what has been happening.

It is not a post apocolyptic world, large swathes of uninhabitable land...all we know is that 'the largest population' is currently in Southern Africa.

 

[Stan5851]

Even Tess is not stupid enough to have the same LI in two different VN's for two different MC's (especially in a connected universe)

As far as I can tell, it's basically the same game universe. So, I also don't see anything stupid or weird about allowing Astrid to have a relationship in 2 VN at once, united by a common story and lore...Astrid doesn't seem to have become a nun, taken a vow of celibacy.And her only limitation, in fact, is her confinement to a wheelchair, but if Veronica gets over Astrid illness quickly enough, I don't see any objective obstacle as to why the "white knight" Kane couldn't have a romance with her.

I'd like to believe that both devs are mature enough to realize that the audience isn't expecting them to do some childish nonsense like saying that "all female LI's for the male MC from TQA have to be chaste virgins who have never had a relationship before". So for me personally, the reason why Tess originally decided to give Astrid exclusively to Anais and her TQA has always looked pretty weird and hard to explain.

 

[drdiver3]

I doubt it will. This game won't be successful just by sub patrons. The dev herself has said this repeatedly. I wouldn't raise unnecessary panic, and the sad (alas) fact that Dom players have Kiyomi removed (with whom, however, we haven't had even a hint of a romantic relationship so far, unlike Olivia, who will get such a rs with Kiyomi) is unlikely to affect anything else.

Plus, according to the dev, Dom players will probably get 1 additional LI from the Sub side (I wonder who that might be, only Mercy comes to mind, but maybe it's someone else).

Evil dom players absolutely have had a hint of a romantic relationship with Kiyomi. They get a scene fairly early on where

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[kinkyshin]

Evil dom players absolutely have had a hint of a romantic relationship with Kiyomi. They get a scene fairly early on where

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[Stan5851]

kinkyshin, here's a screenshot that has a cameo for Desert Stalker.

But so far I haven't seen any mention of KG in the DS, hehe...Perhaps it was just a one-sided wish on Tess' part when she was creating that scene.

 

[drdiver3]

Ah, yes, you got me there.

 

[kinkyshin]

kinkyshin, here's a screenshot that has a cameo for Desert Stalker.
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But so far I haven't seen any mention of KG in the DS, hehe...Perhaps it was just a one-sided wish on Tess' part when she was creating that scene.

Your first post made me download it actually and I've been playing it since lol.

It's quite good but I'm very surprised that she would be paying homage to it since... y'know... she doesn't like incest (in particular father/daughter) lol

 

[Maviarab]

As far as I can tell, it's basically the same game universe. So, I also don't see anything stupid or weird about allowing Astrid to have a relationship in 2 VN at once, united by a common story and lore...Astrid doesn't seem to have become a nun, taken a vow of celibacy.And her only limitation, in fact, is her confinement to a wheelchair, but if Veronica gets over Astrid illness quickly enough, I don't see any objective obstacle as to why the "white knight" Kane couldn't have a romance with her.

I'd like to believe that both devs are mature enough to realize that the audience isn't expecting them to do some childish nonsense like saying that "all female LI's for the male MC from TQA have to be chaste virgins who have never had a relationship before". So for me personally, the reason why Tess originally decided to give Astrid exclusively to Anais and her TQA has always looked pretty weird and hard to explain.

*sighs*...Stan Stan Stan...how long have you been on this site? lol...my comment stands about having a LI for different MC's in different VN's. Surely you know how most would react. Surely...

Evil dom players absolutely have had a hint of a romantic relationship with Kiyomi. They get a scene fairly early on where

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Not any more

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Evil dom players absolutely have had a hint of a romantic relationship with Kiyomi. They get a scene fairly early on where

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Yeah, now there isn’t any relationship with Kiyomi on the Dom side… Just the Sub side

 

[akki_sky]

I doubt it will. This game won't be successful just by sub patrons. The dev herself has said this repeatedly. I wouldn't raise unnecessary panic, and the sad (alas) fact that Dom players have Kiyomi removed (with whom, however, we haven't had even a hint of a romantic relationship so far, unlike Olivia, who will get such a rs with Kiyomi) is unlikely to affect anything else.

Plus, according to the dev, Dom players will probably get 1 additional LI from the Sub side (I wonder who that might be, only Mercy comes to mind, but maybe it's someone else).

Kiyomi offered to train Kane if she saw potential. In last update we saw kane's training started by playing tennis. So from ep 9, it was almost given that kiyomi will personely train Kane. But that doesn't look possible right now.

Astrid will not be LI for Kane but I think Yevette could be in Good Revolution path.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Astrid dont make sense as a li in this game anyway. She practically comes across as a kid. It would make more sense to develop her more in tqa esp since she's likely to not even be there by the end of the game if tqa has anything to say about it.

Kiyomi never really made sense as a li anyway since her relationship with Kane (at least on the dom side) has barely been developed.

Honestly, not trying to complain, but I just want to get to the next chapter already, seems we've been on this chapter forever

 

[Stan5851]

*sighs*...Stan Stan Stan...how long have you been on this site? lol...my comment stands about having a LI for different MC's in different VN's. Surely you know how most would react. Surely...

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[minibaer12]

Kiyomi never really made sense as a li anyway since her relationship with Kane (at least on the dom side) has barely been developed.

I can only speak for the Dom Path.

I think Kiyomi treated Seth unusually well, and so I thought the two would get together, especially after V's treatment...

Maybe I'm just mistaken.

 

[Stan5851]

Astrid dont make sense as a li in this game anyway. She practically comes across as a kid.

What do you mean by "comes across as a kid"? If in terms of intelligence and personality, Astrid is much more "mature" and wise than many sadistic women in this game who think they are the crown of creation. If we talk about her looks, she looks quite mature for her age. Yes, she is idealistic, but that doesn't make her a child/kid. (imo)

 

[kinkyshin]

She practically comes across as a kid.

Nah, I'm kidding. I see what you're saying... She definitely has a bit of a childlike demeanor and it doesn't help that Yvette and Veronica are constantly babying her. But at the same time, she's arguably the best girl in the entire story. She reminds me a bit of Callista, I think Kane would be naturally drawn to her.

Kiyomi never really made sense as a li anyway since her relationship with Kane (at least on the dom side) has barely been developed.

Yes, but that's supposed to change soon. And according to someone that was on her discord (I think Stan) her romance was really hyped up by Tess. Like, they were supposed to bond with each other at a very important moment in the story, or something along those lines.

Honestly, not trying to complain, but I just want to get to the next chapter already, seems we've been on this chapter forever

Man, Tess has got to be one of the fastest and most consistent AVN developer out there.

I can only speak for the Dom Path.

I thought Kiyomi treated Seth unusually well, and so I thought the two would get together, especially after V's treatment...

Kiyomi is/was supposed to be romanceable by any of the 3 protagonists. And yea, I was always planning on her getting with my homie, Seth... which is why I didn't care so much personally.

And I'll also give Nadia to Otto if that's an option down the road. Maybe he can help fix this crazy bitch lol

 

[Stan5851]

She definitely has a bit of a childlike demeanor.

Guys, I honestly don't understand where you see childish traits in her character. Yes, she may be too pure for this twisted world, but she's far from childish and certainly not naive. Yeah, Astrid is not a "master of underhanded games", but she doesn't need to be.

But at the same time, she's arguably the best girl in the entire story.

It's hard to argue with that, though we all have our favorites, but Astrid is beautiful in every way.

And according to someone that was on her discord (I think Stan) her romance was really hyped up by Tess. Like, they were supposed to bond with each other at a very important moment in the story, or something along those lines.

Honestly, I don't remember writing such a thing there...Anyway, the romance with Kiyomi ended before it began. Alas. But maybe at least Seth will get lucky.

Man, Tess has got to be one of the fastest and most consistent AVN developer out there.

Waiting 6-8+ months for each update - that's definitely not what I would call "the fastest hand in the Wild West." Tess a priori can't be fast if only simply because she doesn't have the opportunity to work on the game "conditionally 24/7" like those devs for whom the game is the main source of income do...

So, "one of the fastest" is definitely not the definition to characterize this dev with. (imo) That's why I understand Miles perfectly well and I too would like it "to be over" soon and that we would finally move on to the next chapter, instead of endlessly pondering who is hiding behind the mask of Grym Gudinna or something else equally ancient stuff.

 

[Stan5851]

I think Kiyomi treated Seth unusually well, and so I thought the two would get together, especially after V's treatment...

Yes, it's entirely possible that this guy will still be lucky enough to at least fuck Kiyomi with his new big dick. However, for all of Kiyomi's sweet treatment of Seth,I definitely can't call sweet the way Kiyomi treated with this guy, who was put in a cage by our dear Olivia and sent to Kiyomi apartment.

And then in that cage a sick and naked Seth was forced to spend the night and then had to grovel and coddle Kiyomi.I'm talking about the "light femdom" (lol) scene that Tess suggests Dom players either view or skip. After that scene, I had questions not only for "fair Kiyomi" with her code of honor, but also for our lovely "good sis" Olivia.