VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[akki_sky]

I doubt it will. This game won't be successful just by sub patrons. The dev herself has said this repeatedly. I wouldn't raise unnecessary panic, and the sad (alas) fact that Dom players have Kiyomi removed (with whom, however, we haven't had even a hint of a romantic relationship so far, unlike Olivia, who will get such a rs with Kiyomi) is unlikely to affect anything else.

Plus, according to the dev, Dom players will probably get 1 additional LI from the Sub side (I wonder who that might be, only Mercy comes to mind, but maybe it's someone else).

Kiyomi offered to train Kane if she saw potential. In last update we saw kane's training started by playing tennis. So from ep 9, it was almost given that kiyomi will personely train Kane. But that doesn't look possible right now.

Astrid will not be LI for Kane but I think Yevette could be in Good Revolution path.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Astrid dont make sense as a li in this game anyway. She practically comes across as a kid. It would make more sense to develop her more in tqa esp since she's likely to not even be there by the end of the game if tqa has anything to say about it.

Kiyomi never really made sense as a li anyway since her relationship with Kane (at least on the dom side) has barely been developed.

Honestly, not trying to complain, but I just want to get to the next chapter already, seems we've been on this chapter forever

 

[Stan5851]

*sighs*...Stan Stan Stan...how long have you been on this site? lol...my comment stands about having a LI for different MC's in different VN's. Surely you know how most would react. Surely...

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[minibaer12]

Kiyomi never really made sense as a li anyway since her relationship with Kane (at least on the dom side) has barely been developed.

I can only speak for the Dom Path.

I think Kiyomi treated Seth unusually well, and so I thought the two would get together, especially after V's treatment...

Maybe I'm just mistaken.

 

[Stan5851]

Astrid dont make sense as a li in this game anyway. She practically comes across as a kid.

What do you mean by "comes across as a kid"? If in terms of intelligence and personality, Astrid is much more "mature" and wise than many sadistic women in this game who think they are the crown of creation. If we talk about her looks, she looks quite mature for her age. Yes, she is idealistic, but that doesn't make her a child/kid. (imo)

 

[kinkyshin]

She practically comes across as a kid.

Nah, I'm kidding. I see what you're saying... She definitely has a bit of a childlike demeanor and it doesn't help that Yvette and Veronica are constantly babying her. But at the same time, she's arguably the best girl in the entire story. She reminds me a bit of Callista, I think Kane would be naturally drawn to her.

Kiyomi never really made sense as a li anyway since her relationship with Kane (at least on the dom side) has barely been developed.

Yes, but that's supposed to change soon. And according to someone that was on her discord (I think Stan) her romance was really hyped up by Tess. Like, they were supposed to bond with each other at a very important moment in the story, or something along those lines.

Honestly, not trying to complain, but I just want to get to the next chapter already, seems we've been on this chapter forever

Man, Tess has got to be one of the fastest and most consistent AVN developer out there.

I can only speak for the Dom Path.

I thought Kiyomi treated Seth unusually well, and so I thought the two would get together, especially after V's treatment...

Kiyomi is/was supposed to be romanceable by any of the 3 protagonists. And yea, I was always planning on her getting with my homie, Seth... which is why I didn't care so much personally.

And I'll also give Nadia to Otto if that's an option down the road. Maybe he can help fix this crazy bitch lol

 

[Stan5851]

She definitely has a bit of a childlike demeanor.

Guys, I honestly don't understand where you see childish traits in her character. Yes, she may be too pure for this twisted world, but she's far from childish and certainly not naive. Yeah, Astrid is not a "master of underhanded games", but she doesn't need to be.

But at the same time, she's arguably the best girl in the entire story.

It's hard to argue with that, though we all have our favorites, but Astrid is beautiful in every way.

And according to someone that was on her discord (I think Stan) her romance was really hyped up by Tess. Like, they were supposed to bond with each other at a very important moment in the story, or something along those lines.

Honestly, I don't remember writing such a thing there...Anyway, the romance with Kiyomi ended before it began. Alas. But maybe at least Seth will get lucky.

Man, Tess has got to be one of the fastest and most consistent AVN developer out there.

Waiting 6-8+ months for each update - that's definitely not what I would call "the fastest hand in the Wild West." Tess a priori can't be fast if only simply because she doesn't have the opportunity to work on the game "conditionally 24/7" like those devs for whom the game is the main source of income do...

So, "one of the fastest" is definitely not the definition to characterize this dev with. (imo) That's why I understand Miles perfectly well and I too would like it "to be over" soon and that we would finally move on to the next chapter, instead of endlessly pondering who is hiding behind the mask of Grym Gudinna or something else equally ancient stuff.

 

[Stan5851]

I think Kiyomi treated Seth unusually well, and so I thought the two would get together, especially after V's treatment...

Yes, it's entirely possible that this guy will still be lucky enough to at least fuck Kiyomi with his new big dick. However, for all of Kiyomi's sweet treatment of Seth,I definitely can't call sweet the way Kiyomi treated with this guy, who was put in a cage by our dear Olivia and sent to Kiyomi apartment.

And then in that cage a sick and naked Seth was forced to spend the night and then had to grovel and coddle Kiyomi.I'm talking about the "light femdom" (lol) scene that Tess suggests Dom players either view or skip. After that scene, I had questions not only for "fair Kiyomi" with her code of honor, but also for our lovely "good sis" Olivia.

 

[kinkyshin]

Guys, I honestly don't understand where you see childish traits in her character. Yes, she may be too pure for this twisted world, but she's far from childish and certainly not naive. Yeah, Astrid is not a "master of underhanded games", but she doesn't need to be.

I understand her condition/situation, but still I think she kind of looks childish here, especially in the 2nd render. And we haven't seen any character in the VN that gets babied anywhere near as much as she does. Veronica and Yvette are constantly fussing over her and treating her like a child.

I think it's worth mentioning that no other character actually even has the luxury of behaving like Astrid. Anyone else would be long since dead because they don't have a sister named Veronica Karlsson.

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Honestly, I don't remember writing such a thing there...

Sorry, must've been someone else then.

Waiting 6-8+ months for each update - that's definitely not what I would call "the fastest hand in the Wild West." Tess a priori can't be fast if only simply because she doesn't have the opportunity to work on the game "conditionally 24/7" like those devs for whom the game is the main source of income do...

In the world of AVNs, I think she's fast...

The last update for Summer's Heat for example took like 8 or 9 months for an update which had like 5~10 minutes of content, and I wasn't even remotely surprised because it's just such a completely normal thing in the world of AVNs lol.

instead of endlessly pondering who is hiding behind the mask of Grym Gudinna or something else equally ancient stuff.

lol I feel personally attacked.

 

[motseer]

I too would like it "to be over" soon and that we would finally move on to the next chapter, instead of endlessly pondering who is hiding behind the mask of Grym Gudinna or something else equally ancient stuff.

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[Stan5851]

I understand her condition/situation, but still I think she kind of looks childish here, especially in the 2nd render. And we haven't seen any character in the VN that gets babied anywhere near as much as she does. Veronica and Yvette are constantly fussing over her and treating her like a child.

I think it's worth mentioning that no other character actually even has the luxury of behaving like Astrid. Anyone else would be long since dead because they don't have a sister named Veronica Karlsson.

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But I don't see them treating her like a child...I think that's the wrong word...Rather, both Yvette and Veronica just love her very much and take care of her.

And the fact that Astrid with her brilliant mind (in some aspects even surpassing Veronica's) can sometimes afford such "childish directness", like the one on your screenshots, well, she can be understood. Probably, only a person like her, who has to be confined to a wheelchair most of the time, can appreciate the joy of movement and express it in such a simple and cute way.

In the world of AVNs, I think she's fast...

The last update for Summer's Heat for example took like 8 or 9 months for an update which had like 5~10 minutes of content, and I wasn't even remotely surprised because it's just such a completely normal thing in the world of AVNs lol.

Well I'm not going to argue, we risk getting too far off topic here if we start citing certain examples of games and comparing their development speed to KG. I realize that for serious western AVNs 6-8 months is a common thing, but that doesn't mean I'm happy about it.

lol I feel personally attacked.

Nah, it has nothing to do with you. Believe me, the personalities of Grym Gudinna etc. have been discussed here many times over the years...This could be any other topic, such as the personality of the 7th Board member, but I think you get the gist of my post...I'd be glad to discuss 0.8.2, but that's already been done, so we all sometimes have to show "wonders of ingenuity" to find something else that would still be interesting to discuss all together in a seemingly thoroughly explored game.

Ofc, KG as a game is quite rich in intrigue and mystery, and it's definitely not the kind of AVN where there's one single intrigue that everyone is already bored with...But still, I want new events, I want us to finally get a game show finale and move on to episode 9 and D.Kane's new life.

Until then, all I see is some obscure and not looking good news about "optimizing" characters, removing individual love path, some drama with harassers and such...Oh, and the feeling that this thread has been stagnant in recent months doesn't make me too happy either.

 

[minibaer12]

Yes, it's entirely possible that this guy will still be lucky enough to at least fuck Kiyomi with his new big dick. However, for all of Kiyomi's sweet treatment of Seth,I definitely can't call sweet the way Kiyomi treated with this guy, who was put in a cage by our dear Olivia and sent to Kiyomi apartment.

And then in that cage a sick and naked Seth was forced to spend the night and then had to grovel and coddle Kiyomi.I'm talking about the "light femdom" (lol) scene that Tess suggests Dom players either view or skip. After that scene, I had questions not only for "fair Kiyomi" with her code of honor, but also for our lovely "good sis" Olivia.

In any other VN, I would agree with you 100%, but hey, this is KG, and the developer is Tess with some fetishes. Different rules and standards apply here.

That's why I said Kiyomi treated Seth "lovingly."