VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 FinalA2] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[MilesEdgeworth]

About Callista, ok understand your point, but that would make her worse on the bad parent scale .

About Delilah, is there anything in the game about it? I have no problem believing you guys if Tess said it somewhere on the discord. But I think the game never gave us any hints about it so far.

Theres a scene on the ship where Cynthia tells Stephan to not assume that he will automatically inherit the dekock fortune which would imply that he's her only kid since I doubt hes into the primogeniture lifestyle.

I was off a bit but still interest that she said what she said to stephen.

Theres also this which would be a weird question to ask if she was Cynthia's kid

 

[Silver_Crow117]

pretty sure she is. It is said somewhere that she is an intern at the Karlsson group and a DeCock.


Edit: Found a scene where it is stated she is Cynthias daughter.

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or do you think Delila is adopted? If yes can you tell me why?

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There’s also one stating she’s not but I can’t find it lol.. but Delilah is not the daughter of Cynthia… but she doesn’t know that yet… and it’ll be up to us for her to find out the truth..

 

[Rowszix]

Intresting, thank you guys . But there is a scene in which Kane is forced to lick Cynthias shoes, which could also be seen as a little bit incest . So who do you think Delilah is? Another secret Karlsson sister (I am joking here)? But maybe a daughter of one of Alexanders sisters? I mean if she would not be related to anybody at all, then she could have just been not a DeCock and it would be fine.

 

[NewGuy2022]

We don't know when the sisters left. I doubt it would be at the same time as callista since we know for a fact that Alexander stopped her. Alexander was also banging yvette and dom's mother around that time, his descent likely happened at the time that he likely lost his son with Callista.

Because she put him in that gambit. I know that there's an apparent bomb on him, but she has accessto the worlds smartest scientist and the world's best hacker, she couldve figured out something if she didnt want him there. As for the ultimate plans, I imagine she really wants Kane and Olivia at the top to avoid the scenario you outlined. Still doesnt explain why she raised them as siblings, but thats a question for another day.


She's not, tess abhors incest. She's likely adopted from someone on the karlsson island and raised as a dekock.

Actually, we do know why Alexander's sisters left. They adored Callista and after Casllista walked in on Alexander shagging Elena, Callista's BFF, they all became so angry over Alexander's betrayal of Callista that they left Alexander. It's not clear (to me, at least) where the sisters went nor what happened to them but some hints were dropped that

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I'm not convinced that Kane has an actual bomb inside him (there's a lot of fan debate over that); my assumption (and it's just that) is that he had a kill switch of some sort implanted inside him that, on command, would kill him by stroke, heart attack, poisoning, shock, (who knows?)... ...not necessarily an actual explosive device. Supposedly this was done to ensure Kane had to endure the gambit without any significant outside help. It's unclear who holds "the trigger" (I'd assume Veronica since she's running the gambit but, again, I'm just assuming) but apparently it's command-activated and this explains in part the desire for a hacker (disabling the shock chips in the slaves is a major reason, too).

The developer stated several times in her discord thread that Delilah is not Nadia's sister; what isn't clear to me is why Cynthia seems to treat Delilah as a 2d class citizen during family meetings and why Cynthia insists that Delilah cannot have sex with Kane (and she's too late to say that on my run through!). My guess is that it has something to do with Delilah's bloodline but it could just have something to do with Kane's place in the order of succession. Someone who understands royal families and succession could explain this better than I.

 

[Rowszix]

Actually, we do know why Alexander's sisters left. They adored Callista and after Casllista walked in on Alexander shagging Elena, Callista's BFF, they all became so angry over Alexander's betrayal of Callista that they left Alexander. It's not clear (to me, at least) where the sisters went nor what happened to them but some hints were dropped that

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I'm not convinced that Kane has an actual bomb inside him (there's a lot of fan debate over that); my assumption (and it's just that) is that he had a kill switch of some sort implanted inside him that, on command, would kill him by stroke, heart attack, poisoning, shock, (who knows?)... ...not necessarily an actual explosive device. Supposedly this was done to ensure Kane had to endure the gambit without any significant outside help. It's unclear who holds "the trigger" (I'd assume Veronica since she's running the gambit but, again, I'm just assuming) but apparently it's command-activated and this explains in part the desire for a hacker (disabling the shock chips in the slaves is a major reason, too).

The developer stated several times in her discord thread that Delilah is not Nadia's sister; what isn't clear to me is why Cynthia seems to treat Delilah as a 2d class citizen during family meetings and why Cynthia insists that Delilah cannot have sex with Kane (and she's too late to say that on my run through!). My guess is that it has something to do with Delilah's bloodline but it could just have something to do with Kane's place in the order of succession. Someone who understands royal families and succession could explain this better than I.

I thought that Nadia is not Cynthias daughter, but Coles. Which would explain why she cares so much about Kane, even when he is a sub, and doesn't get involved in stuff with him.

Doesn't Callista say somebody can not know that she is alive, I assumed that would be the person that holds the trigger and Veronica knows Callista lives.

I also think it is hinted that the woman with the pyramid, that Olivia meets in the flashback, is one of Alexanders sisters.

 

[NewGuy2022]

I thought that Nadia is not Cynthias daughter, but Coles. Which would explain why she cares so much about him, even when he is a sub, and doesn't get involved in stuff with him.

Doesn't Callista say somebody can not know that she is alive, I assumed that would be the person that holds the trigger and Veronica knows Callista lives.

I also think it is hinted that the woman with the pyramid, that Olivia meets in the flashback, is one of Alexanders sisters.

Well, for anything about the sub stuff I'll have to take your word for it; I have no way of knowing. As others mentioned, in the discord the dev was emphatic that she abhors incest and never would include it in her work so I don't see how Delilah could be Kane's half sister; on my route, they had consensual sex while Kane was in prison. Maybe that didn't happen on the sub route; I don't know.

This is why I enjoy threads like this; I get to learn things I didn't see (because it's not on my route).

No idea who (or how many) hold(s) the "trigger"; that was just my guessing. It seemed to me like that was a means to ensure that Kane had to endure the gambit without help and since Veronica seems to be the "referee" of the gambit, so to speak, I assumed it was her. I could be completely wrong on that. You are right that Callista still is limiting to whom she reveals herself but it's unclear to me who represents a threat to her/Kane. We know it's not Elena and probably not Dominique since she knows

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... Good intrigue.

 

[Rowszix]

Well, for anything about the sub stuff I'll have to take your word for it; I have no way of knowing. As others mentioned, in the discord the dev was emphatic that she abhors incest and never would include it in her work so I don't see how Delilah could be Kane's half sister; on my route, they had consensual sex while Kane was in prison. Maybe that didn't happen on the sub route; I don't know.

This is why I enjoy threads like this; I get to learn things I didn't see (because it's not on my route).

No idea who (or how many) hold(s) the "trigger"; that was just my guessing. It seemed to me like that was a means to ensure that Kane had to endure the gambit without help and since Veronica seems to be the "referee" of the gambit, so to speak, I assumed it was her. I could be completely wrong on that. You are right that Callista still is limiting to whom she reveals herself but it's unclear to me who represents a threat to her/Kane. We know it's not Elena and probably not Dominique since she knows

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... Good intrigue.

No I meant Nadia is Kane's half sister, not Delilah. Nadia is kind of upset about stuff that is done to sub Kane and dont want to interact with him in sexual stuff.
I actually think it should be none of the sisters, as the one who holds the trigger could have an unfair advantage over the others? Also how much do all the sisters know about the gambit? Veronica knows of course, Olivia if she is the sister from the intro, but the other three?

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Actually, we do know why Alexander's sisters left. They adored Callista and after Casllista walked in on Alexander shagging Elena, Callista's BFF, they all became so angry over Alexander's betrayal of Callista that they left Alexander. It's not clear (to me, at least) where the sisters went nor what happened to them but some hints were dropped that

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Unless its revealed in this update, we have no real idea why the sisters left, my theory goes along different lines then the elena incident.

I thought that Nadia is not Cynthias daughter, but Coles. Which would explain why she cares so much about Kane, even when he is a sub, and doesn't get involved in stuff with him.

Doesn't Callista say somebody can not know that she is alive, I assumed that would be the person that holds the trigger and Veronica knows Callista lives.

I also think it is hinted that the woman with the pyramid, that Olivia meets in the flashback, is one of Alexanders sisters.

Yes Nadia is Kane's true sister and yes the woman with the pyramid is the sister that survived. Yea, at the moment the only person that makes sense is alessandra. Olivia, Juliette and Dom need Kane alive to win the gambit. Veronica and Elena know she's alive and astrid would never. This leaves us Yvette and Alessandra. I don't see Yvette turning on her daughters, and Callista did stay in costume when she met alessandra. So by process of elimination, she has to be the mysterious owner of the trigger

 

[Rowszix]

Unless its revealed in this update, we have no real idea why the sisters left, my theory goes along different lines then the elena incident.



Yes Nadia is Kane's true sister and yes the woman with the pyramid is the sister that survived. Yea, at the moment the only person that makes sense is alessandra. Olivia, Juliette and Dom need Kane alive to win the gambit. Veronica and Elena know she's alive and astrid would never. This leaves us Yvette and Alessandra. I don't see Yvette turning on her daughters, and Callista did stay in costume when she met alessandra. So by process of elimination, she has to be the mysterious owner of the trigger

Or maybe somebody that is not actually part of the Karlsson family? In the Veronica/Alexander flashback, he trained with Kitty, so it must be Kitty . But seriously it could be someone he deeply trusted, they would make it fair, so Kyomi comes to mind, because she could be honor bound to fulfill Alexanders wishes and she also doesn't really align with any of the sisters directly.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Or maybe somebody that is not actually part of the Karlsson family? In the Veronica/Alexander flashback, he trained with Kitty, so it must be Kitty . But seriously it could be someone he deeply trusted, they would make it fair, so Kyomi comes to mind, because she could be honor bound to fulfill Alexanders wishes and she also doesn't really align with any of the sisters directly.

Kiyomi knows of callistas existence, it wasnt said out right, but Kiyomi implied that she knew in her convo with otto

 

[Rowszix]

Kiyomi knows of callistas existence, it wasnt said out right, but Kiyomi implied that she knew in her convo with otto

true

 

[harsha_26]

While I see your point, IMO Alexander is alot worse esp when we compare how he raised his kids to how Callista raised hers. While yes, Callista fucked him by throwing him into this dangerous world with little to no training, she's doing what she feels that she has to do for his survival. Will that stop me from betraying her at the first opportunity? nope. If Tess allows the player, my Kane is gonna tell callista exactly what he thinks of her.

To address the first part, I think Callista's ultimate plan iw to run the Karlsson syndicate through her son. which is why it would be a betrayal to Callista if Kane turns out to be a tyranical leader.

I don't think her plan is to run Karlsson's company through Kane. Her plan is to make Olivia as queen and Kane as something like Queen Consort dom path or queen servant in sub path. Whether the flashback conversation with Kane or the conversation with elena on bridge or the conversation with veronica in lab, totally proves this.

If Kane wants to be a leader of company, that would be totally his plan and choice. No one is eligible to take that credit behalf of him. Especially callista. I can count on my fingers of characters who wish to see Kane as king of Karlssons. Like Nadia, Katsumi and also surprisingly Tess (cameo in dom path).

And remember, this is only callista's Plan A, she have revolution plan and island4 plans too.

 

[NewGuy2022]

Or maybe somebody that is not actually part of the Karlsson family? In the Veronica/Alexander flashback, he trained with Kitty, so it must be Kitty . But seriously it could be someone he deeply trusted, they would make it fair, so Kyomi comes to mind, because she could be honor bound to fulfill Alexanders wishes and she also doesn't really align with any of the sisters directly.

Kiyomi knows Callista is alive. She recognized her in the submarine welcome scene. So did Sonya.

 

[harsha_26]

Unless its revealed in this update, we have no real idea why the sisters left, my theory goes along different lines then the elena incident.



Yes Nadia is Kane's true sister and yes the woman with the pyramid is the sister that survived. Yea, at the moment the only person that makes sense is alessandra. Olivia, Juliette and Dom need Kane alive to win the gambit. Veronica and Elena know she's alive and astrid would never. This leaves us Yvette and Alessandra. I don't see Yvette turning on her daughters, and Callista did stay in costume when she met alessandra. So by process of elimination, she has to be the mysterious owner of the trigger

Definitely not Alessandra. Yes she is the best in evil scheming and won many medals and trophies in it, but my gut feeling is that she is not the one. My bet is still on olivia.

 

[Rowszix]

Definitely not Alessandra. Yes she is the best in evil scheming and won many medals and trophies in it, but my gut feeling is that she is not the one. My bet is still on olivia.

I understand your reasons, but Olivia/Kane pairing is a very hard pushed ending. And If Kane learns that the only reason he had to endure all of this is Olivia, how could he forgive her? The Olivia knows of her heritage and the gambit thing must already feel like an extreme berayal of her, but being the reason it can be enforced on him, is even harder.


Edit: how about there is no bomb and Alexander just made Callista believe there is one

 

[harsha_26]

I understand your reasons, but Olivia/Kane pairing is a very hard pushed ending. And If Kane learns that the only reason he had to endure all of this is Olivia, how could he forgive her? The Olivia knows of her heritage and the gambit thing must already feel like an extreme berayal of her, but being the reason it can be enforced on him, is even harder.


Edit: how about there is no bomb and Alexander just made Callista believe there is one

May be it's not olivia. As Tess once said, we might be looking all in one dimension. So, if we think of this in multi dimension, then, Although the scene with Alexander death bed is with olivia, there is no guarantee that she is has the remote to kane's kill switch. Both could be entirely different persons too.

 

[Stan5851]

Corporate Development Memo 7 December 2025
PickerLewd note: yes, it's Anais's writing style, which makes it hard to understand anything .

Yeah...there's a a problem with that, although I did like that she had a sense of humor.

I'm more math/gaming/creative drawing kind of girl than beautiful writer so I stop while not digging bigger hole, haha!

And from the looks of it, Tess' involvement in TQA as a writer is not so much a whim as a pressing need.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Definitely not Alessandra. Yes she is the best in evil scheming and won many medals and trophies in it, but my gut feeling is that she is not the one. My bet is still on olivia.

Olivia needs Kane alive to inherit the company. Unless it's claudia which would be out of left field or someone we arent introduced to, Alessandra is the only one that makes sense.

 

[PickerLewd]

Yeah...there's a a problem with that, although I did like that she had a sense of humor.

I was just about to ask her if Tess had collared her before she took over the Patreon this week. Ultimately, I decided against it to avoid the risk of being banned and missing out on the weekly updates .

 

[harsha_26]

Olivia needs Kane alive to inherit the company. Unless it's claudia which would be out of left field or someone we arent introduced to, Alessandra is the only one that makes sense.

Then why the evil domoness in sub path is very interested to kill k1 kane?