VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 FinalA2] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[harsha_26]

I created a new version of the Relationship Chart linked in the first post, mostly for my own benefit because... let's be honest, understanding the relationships in this game is extremely complicated, and I found the original chart a little bit confusing sometimes, with the different colors that don't seem to have any specific meaning and duplicate people on different contexts, so I decided to create my own version to see if things could be clearer to me.

I don't mean any slight at all to _Sen _ , the creator of the original chart, I'm actually very thankful for his work, and used his chart to ensure the information was accurate on mine. I don't claim that mine is a better version (it's not as complete for one, I didn't add some characters that didn't have connection to anyone in particular yet), it just made more sense for me this way. I'm posting it here in case it's also helpful to others.

I might update this in the future if anyone cares about it. If this is useful to anyone and you have suggestions, let me know

Thankyou so much for the list.

Some corrections if you are interested:
No link between Alexander and Elena to olivia.
Gemini should be added and attached to Dominique.
No correct link between Cole & Nadia.
Alyssa is in relationship with Jake (z2).
Try to draw a relationship with elena to chanel.

 

[kevinio87]

Hello everyone

Stan5851
You mean that scene where we have fun with those three ladies, right?

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this happens after you talk with Katsumi in the pits, after Jake and Liam are thrown down.

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And the scene with our these girls for the harem plays before the VIP-Room-Selection.

On this path i'm with jules and more evil as the Devil himself^^
What I know is, you cant have "bflagdomone". So i think, on Veronica path, this scene will not play...i have tried it with URM...k9-execpt>=1 and with Veronica as Sponsor...this scene will not happen...

I hope this can help you.

PS: This is my first post in this forum and in one of the best games here, no less. English isn't my first language. I hope that's okay.

 

[Rowszix]

So finally had the time to finish my evil dom playthrough. And I must say, Liam is like he best guy on the cast right now . He is a man with morality, intelligence and doesnt care to play stupid games that are rigged against him. Kanes bullshit about a guy would still try it, even if he knows he only can fail is just dumb. A wise man knows when a fight is worth fighting and when not. Holy shit, I think this shows how dumb and incompetent the Karlsson group actually must be if they bascially sent a guy with his abilities and character strength just to die in there stupid game show. I mean we dont even know if he not acutally had a giant, fucking, mega cock and it was just altered by the Doc .

This also makes me kinda sad, that we cant play a complete no bullshit defying sub Kane that doesnt want to play games. We sometimes get answers like this, but much to rare in my opinion. That could be a K1 playthorugh I would actually enjoy because no matter how hard they try to break him ... they just cant.

Also K9 Kane basically owns Liam afterwards sooooooo maybe evil Kane can betray the fake Revolution, because his hate for the people who imprisoned him is stronger than his desire to rule within their system and prefers to bring chaos and build his own empire from there. A evil dom Kane with a glass of wine in his hand and his personal harem at his feet, just enjoying a show of revolting slaves slaughter their former masters would make a fine ending.

 

[harsha_26]

Also K9 Kane basically owns Liam afterwards sooooooo maybe evil Kane can betray the fake Revolution, because his hate for the people who imprisoned him is stronger than his desire to rule within their system and prefers to bring chaos and build his own empire from there. A evil dom Kane with a glass of wine in his hand and his personal harem at his feet, just enjoying a show of revolting slaves slaughter their former masters would make a fine ending.

In 8.2, if you are you in evil dom playthrough during Lily's dart game with Tess, Tess says that she wants to see Kane to end at the top and control few karlssons and particular jules on their knees with whipped ass. As she is a dev, it is definitely a foreshadowing how things would go, particularly if you are in evil dom.

But the question is, Does Kane do this out of revenge or because he loves power or even both? Tess doesn't give any clarity on revenge of Kane upto now in any of the path. We never have got to read his thoughts on revenge or his plans on future. He is mostly playing the game trying to survive but in various degrees according to our choices.

I used to like Kane's thoughts when he is alone, like in prison, thinking of flashback and callista. We kind of miss his thoughts and thinking when he is alone in his room now.

 

[Rowszix]

In 8.2, if you are you in evil dom playthrough during Lily's dart game with Tess, Tess says that she wants to see Kane to end at the top and control few karlssons and particular jules on their knees with whipped ass. As she is a dev, it is definitely a foreshadowing how things would go, particularly if you are in evil dom.

But the question is, Does Kane do this out of revenge or because he loves power or even both? Tess doesn't give any clarity on revenge of Kane upto now in any of the path. We never have got to read his thoughts on revenge or his plans on future. He is mostly playing the game trying to survive but in various degrees according to our choices.

I used to like Kane's thoughts when he is alone, like in prison, thinking of flashback and callista. We kind of miss his thoughts and thinking when he is alone in his room now.

Yeah there is not enough thinking from him to acutally judge his character, might be on purpose actually. But I mean this could also depending how you play Kane or how you interpret him. Can you interpet him as a power hungry, hedonistic bad guy, that is not better than the Karlssons? Absolutly. But you could also see him as a smart guy who understands how fucked up his situation is and just does everything to get ahead, while planning his way out (or to the top) carefully OR and this would be the ending I proposed actually want revenge and want to see all of the women who tormented him (with his prison sentecne), his brother and his best friend suffer. Basically an evil Kane who is kinda loyal to Jake and Seth ...
Nadia for example is also evil as fuck but loyal to Kane because she is his sister. So an evil Kane could also be something similiar.

 

[Sunflare]

Hello everyone

Stan5851
You mean that scene where we have fun with those three ladies, right?

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this happens after you talk with Katsumi in the pits, after Jake and Liam are thrown down.

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And the scene with our these girls for the harem plays before the VIP-Room-Selection.

On this path i'm with jules and more evil as the Devil himself^^
What I know is, you cant have "bflagdomone". So i think, on Veronica path, this scene will not play...i have tried it with URM...k9-execpt>=1 and with Veronica as Sponsor...this scene will not happen...

I hope this can help you.

PS: This is my first post in this forum and in one of the best games here, no less. English isn't my first language. I hope that's okay.

It is either a bug or an hidden variable but if you have bflagdomone the scene don t trigger even if you are k9 with enough exec

 

[harsha_26]

Yeah there is not enough thinking from him to acutally judge his character, might be on purpose actually. But I mean this could also depending how you play Kane or how you interpret him. Can you interpet him as a power hungry, hedonistic bad guy, that is not better than the Karlssons? Absolutly. But you could also see him as a smart guy who understands how fucked up his situation is and just does everything to get ahead, while planning his way out (or to the top) carefully OR and this would be the ending I proposed actually want revenge and want to see all of the women who tormented him (with his prison sentecne), his brother and his best friend suffer. Basically an evil Kane who is kinda loyal to Jake and Seth ...
Nadia for example is also evil as fuck but loyal to Kane because she is his sister. So an evil Kane could also be something similiar.

Yeah, multiple possibilities but we don't know his thoughts for sure yet. Player can headcanon but don't know how far player thoughts will match the kane's thoughts in future lol. It kinds of breaks the immersion tbh but like you said, it might be on purpose actually. Because kane's thoughts and plans are for future use and revealing them soon to the players would be not that thrilling. I think this game will undego a heavy change over from episode 9 and MC gets to travel outside of karlsson's city.

 

[harsha_26]

Very confused over who to select going forward between Angelica vs chloe lol for a evil dom path. Ange is good in thinking out of the box and chloe is doing anything to please the owner. Chloe is connected to Dominique more, thus will be more helpful for doms because Dominique is the only woman who prefers male domination and torturing females compare to other sisters. You can clearly see this difference on how sisters manage to execute the games. Juli room focuses on torturing Phoebe's husband, Claudia room on liam, Alessandra room on our poor friend zake but Dominique has Pamela, yasmine, gemini, amora and only one male slave.

 

[Rowszix]

Yeah, multiple possibilities but we don't know his thoughts for sure yet. Player can headcanon but don't know how far player thoughts will match the kane's thoughts in future lol. It kinds of breaks the immersion tbh but like you said, it might be on purpose actually. Because kane's thoughts and plans are for future use and revealing them soon to the players would be not that thrilling. I think this game will undego a heavy change over from episode 9 and MC gets to travel outside of karlsson's city.

Yeah i think it depends a lot how nuanced the endings and the road to the end will be. Tess planed a fuck ton of endings with a lot of a Lot of variantions inside of them. And intelligent, long term planning Kane was definetly a thing in the earlier episdoes. The cunning variable basically is for that. But I think it wasnt used after Episode 6 or something. So yeah dont know how this will play out. There are actually a lot of kinda abandoned variables, that dont change anymore after a certain point. I wonder If some of them will become relevant again.

 

[hoochimama]

Alessandra room on our poor friend zake

Zach+Jake?

 

[kevinio87]

It is either a bug or an hidden variable but if you have bflagdomone the scene don t trigger even if you are k9 with enough exec

yes, i think it's a bug. i'm currently playing mixed good/evil/dom with D and V as Sponsor. It goes directly to the VIP-Scene, after i was with V in the Treeroom...

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[Allan Trumbull]

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[harsha_26]

Zach+Jake?

These names confuses me lol.

 

[Maviarab]

I created a new version of the Relationship Chart linked in the first post, mostly for my own benefit because... let's be honest, understanding the relationships in this game is extremely complicated, and I found the original chart a little bit confusing sometimes, with the different colors that don't seem to have any specific meaning and duplicate people on different contexts, so I decided to create my own version to see if things could be clearer to me.

I don't mean any slight at all to _Sen _ , the creator of the original chart, I'm actually very thankful for his work, and used his chart to ensure the information was accurate on mine. I don't claim that mine is a better version (it's not as complete for one, I didn't add some characters that didn't have connection to anyone in particular yet), it just made more sense for me this way. I'm posting it here in case it's also helpful to others.

I might update this in the future if anyone cares about it. If this is useful to anyone and you have suggestions, let me know

Why not just use my excel sheet as your base of ref? Unlike the pdf...contains every single character in the story up to 8.2 with what their relations are to each other and correct ranks as of 8.2 (verified by Tess). No lines, no chart, simple to understand and follow?

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For anyone wondering, very busy looking after parents at the moment (and it's holiday time), none of my sheets will be updated until Final B drops and even then,,...who knows when I'll get around to playing/updating. So far behind on VN's and walkthrough's at the moment, will come when it comes (along with an update to mask screens)

 

[HiHaHo]

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For anyone wondering, very busy looking after parents at the moment (and it's holiday time), none of my sheets will be updated until Final B drops and even then,,...who knows when I'll get around to playing/updating. So far behind on VN's and walkthrough's at the moment, will come when it comes (along with an update to mask screens)

alll good Mav ,family first ,the rest off IRL second ,no need to worry about us degenerates.

maybe somebody will get tired of waiting and do it for you.

 

[hkennereth]

Why not just use my excel sheet as your base of ref? Unlike the pdf...contains every single character in the story up to 8.2 with what their relations are to each other and correct ranks as of 8.2 (verified by Tess). No lines, no chart, simple to understand and follow?

________________
For anyone wondering, very busy looking after parents at the moment (and it's holiday time), none of my sheets will be updated until Final B drops and even then,,...who knows when I'll get around to playing/updating. So far behind on VN's and walkthrough's at the moment, will come when it comes (along with an update to mask screens)

I'll be honest, I don't know what is this sheet you're talking about. I haven't been around reading the near 1000 pages of posts here, so... if it's not linked in the OP, I don't know it exists. I would be happy to take a look in it if you could give me a link, however. Nevermind, I just noticed it there, I thought that "Save/Timeline" meant it was a savegame, so I never clicked there.

Thanks for the other comments pointing out missing information. I will be updating my chart soon.

 

[Maviarab]

I'll be honest, I don't know what is this sheet you're talking about. I haven't been around reading the near 1000 pages of posts here, so... if it's not linked in the OP, I don't know it exists. I would be happy to take a look in it if you could give me a link, however.

Thanks for the other comments pointing out missing information. I will be updating my chart soon.

Been in the OP for almost 2 years now.

 

[hkennereth]

Been in the OP for almost 2 years now.

Yeah, sorry. I thought it was something else so I didn't check that link. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Blackreaper]

Is there any sex scene between kane and Olivia ?

 

[hoochimama]

Is there any sex scene between kane and Olivia ?

Not yet, and she only cucks you with another girl so far.