VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 FinalA2] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Stan5851]

The character models look too much like plastic barbie dolls to be erotic on their own

In my opinion, this is not true. In fact, almost all models are very beautiful and natural, and there are quite a few faces that are quite unique and rarely seen in other AVNs, which is already good. So the problem is not in general, but in the details, which will be discussed below.

I'm willing to bet most of the players here are good with it.

Absolutely. If this were not the case, no well-developed and deep storyline would be able to keep any of us here. After all, this is a porn game, and we have every right to expect that most of the women will be very beautiful. Which is exactly what we got.

There's also not a ton of variety to it, since I can't remember a single woman who isn't shaved bare.

That's right. And it's this issue that I'd like to discuss in more detail. Whatever anyone says, we primarily judge beauty by the face and figure, and that's where the game is doing very well.

However, most of the 3D models used in KG have standard and essentially identical pussy look. I'm not an expert on DAZ3D, and it's hard for me to say why this is the case...mb because many of the models used here belong to the earlier generations of Genesis 3 and 8, or mb for some other reason. But whatever the case, that's how it is. And so, even though the KG girls are quite unique and beautiful, in terms of the appearance of their private parts, they look like clones.

Knowing this, in my opinion, it would be worth dressing them in sexy panties, if only because “a woman should possess a certain mystery,” and this could further whet our sexual appetite.

 

[NewGuy2022]

In my opinion, this is not true. In fact, almost all models are very beautiful and natural, and there are quite a few faces that are quite unique and rarely seen in other AVNs, which is already good. So the problem is not in general, but in the details, which will be discussed below.

Absolutely. If this were not the case, no well-developed and deep storyline would be able to keep any of us here. After all, this is a porn game, and we have every right to expect that most of the women will be very beautiful. Which is exactly what we got.

That's right. And it's this issue that I'd like to discuss in more detail. Whatever anyone says, we primarily judge beauty by the face and figure, and that's where the game is doing very well.

However, most of the 3D models used in KG have standard and essentially identical pussy look. I'm not an expert on DAZ3D, and it's hard for me to say why this is the case...mb because many of the models used here belong to the earlier generations of Genesis 3 and 8, or mb for some other reason. But whatever the case, that's how it is. And so, even though the KG girls are quite unique and beautiful, in terms of the appearance of their private parts, they look like clones.

Knowing this, in my opinion, it would be worth dressing them in panties, if only because “a woman should possess a certain mystery,” and this could further whet our sexual appetite.

I just assumed the "commando look" made it easier for the dommes to demand that slaves lick them. Simple guy that I am and all...

 

[Stan5851]

I just assumed the "commando look" made it easier for the dommes to demand that slaves lick them. Simple guy that I am and all...

Didn't think of it that way, but even if that's the reason, this “pussies clone attack” still doesn't turn me (as a male) on, although by Tess' design, obviously it should.

 

[NewGuy2022]

Didn't think of it that way, but even if that's the reason, this “pussies clone attack” still doesn't turn me (as a male) on, although by Tess' design, obviously it should.

As I understand it, by her design... ...it only should arouse a male reader if he enjoys being forced to submit.

There's a number of things in her game where I don't share her opinion of what constitutes dominance vs. submission but... ...that's for another time, I suppose.

 

[Ulrich37]

Didn't think of it that way, but even if that's the reason, this “pussies clone attack” still doesn't turn me (as a male) on, although by Tess' design, obviously it should.

An interesting opinion! I guess it didn't occur to me how it's likely the same model of pussy for each lady, so they're rather interchangable without the hair. And I agree with you, I find the women fairly attractive for the most part. None of them have truely absurd boobs or crazy propotions. Few of them are rip offs of more well known versions of the same model, as it were.

Sexy panties and g-strings would be perfectly reasonable, in my eyes!

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

To me I don't think the commando thing would be such an issue if Tess stopped bringing attention to it. It legit makes sense for them to go commando for practical reasons. Hell, I even get the message that these women aren't here for the male gaze; they're dressing in a way that pleases them, and if the males around them like it, good for them. But yes, the camera angles create an issue that needn't be there.

 

[harsha_26]

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I'm not upset, I'm just saying what I'm into and what i prefer within the available content by tess.

 

[Rowszix]

I just find the gratuitous nudity good for laughs at best. The character models look too much like plastic barbie dolls to be erotic on their own and given the femdom context it seems kind of strange to not use nudity -or the lack of it- to cater to the tease & denial subgenre of femdom. I don't think the dommes have ever offered nudity as a reward for a sub's performance nor teased or punished a sub by denying him the sight of their naked bodies. Can barely recall more than a couple of instances of T&D action in the game like when Olivia trains with the vipers alongside a sub Kane, Jake and Zach and the women rub their bare bodies against the slaves' caged dicks as a form of teasing torture.

One could argue that the game show has some tease and denial. But it feels more like endurance training and/or testing if Kane is willing to give up instant gratification for long term goals. I thought the whole chastity thing actually feels more like a degradationt thing and less like actually chastity play. So basically the slaves dont even have control over their own bodys and less about an acutal kink play. But it still runs the idea of sexual selfishness. The dommes can force the slaves to make them cum, but the slaves are not getting anything in return. But sexual frustration is not really tackled hard very often.

I just assumed the "commando look" made it easier for the dommes to demand that slaves lick them. Simple guy that I am and all...

As I understand it, by her design... ...it only should arouse a male reader if he enjoys being forced to submit.

There's a number of things in her game where I don't share her opinion of what constitutes dominance vs. submission but... ...that's for another time, I suppose.

I think I get what you mean but would argue that its not 'harder' to give oral to a woman with pubic hair . But I would also say that giving oral to a woman has nothing do with submitting per se, but forced facesitting of course is. I just assumed it was easier/cheaper to not bother with pubic hair, for both men and women.

I would acutally be intrested in your opinions about what dominance vs submission, because I also think some stuff feels off at times.
As someone who played both routes I would also say that the number of true (or maybe pure) dominant women in this game is surprisingly low. Most of them just seem to crave a guy that tells them to go down on their knees and suck his cock and they are so constantly degrading to the subs to mask the fact that they actually also want to submit (I dont say all of them, just a lot of them). I think the strangest thing is going from K4 to K5, so for your first day they call you a fucking loser and the next day they all seem to think your cock is the eight wonder of the world .

 

[harsha_26]

For those who want to save him during judgement lol. Now, I realize why olivia behaved that way with jake and finally kissed kane infront of him. What a moment.

 

[Rowszix]

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For those who want to save him during judgement lol. Now, I realize why olivia behaved that way with jake and finally kissed kane infront of him. What a moment.

If Olivia is evil, she also was no angel to Jake in the past . But even if, I dont think being a dumbass justifies being hunted down and murdered by some crazy bitches .

 

[harsha_26]

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If Olivia is evil, she also was no angel to Jake in the past . But even if, I dont think being a dumbass justifies being hunted down and murdered by some crazy bitches .

Crazy times need crazy decisions lol. I mean, it's worthy that you get a deep kiss from olivia.. She never given that level of deep kiss to kane before that moment. Alessandra said "get a room".

I still can't get over the bug over why good olivia has to speak like that with kane that he is not eligible to enter into this room.

 

[Rowszix]

Crazy times need crazy decisions lol. I mean, it's worthy that you get a deep kiss from olivia.. She never given that level of deep kiss to kane before that moment. Alessandra said "get a room".

I still can't get over the bug over why good olivia has to speak like that with kane that he is not eligible to enter into this room.

I actually wonder why there is not a good version of this room. Where we would get the same reaction from a good Olivia for sparing Jake. Maybe the room would have less fucking in front of Jake, but Olivia getting the hots for good Kane because he kept his morals and loyalty high in the programm would be very nice. It could be the dom dynamic for the Olivias sub decision to keep people safe from the hunt. While the Karlssons and their employees enjyos being cruel, some of them still seem to value loyalty very high. So Kane being protective of his friend could actually convince some people that he would be protective of them if he would become chairman. So it could have been great to atrract different people to the Kane/Olivia team up faction. Could have also been an opurtunity to link Olivia to the revolution for example. Maybe we get an good Olivia exclusive scene in the next update.
The scene also made me want a evil Kane chairman ending with no relationship to a good Olivia, in which he stays loyal to Jake, promotes him to be his right hand man and in the end gifts her as a slave to his friend .

I actually noticed a similiar bug with Sonya on sub route. She tells Kane about a favor from Dominique. This favor can only be obtained by being K1 (maybe K2 too, not sure) I think. It seems weird that she even talks about it when Kane cant really know about it. But I guess this stuff is happening with all the forking.

 

[Maviarab]

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If Olivia is evil, she also was no angel to Jake in the past . But even if, I dont think being a dumbass justifies being hunted down and murdered by some crazy bitches .

Jesus the fucking grammar in this screenshot. This from a supposed highly educted top one percenter in her words

How the fuck did this get past testing?

 

[motseer]

Jesus the fucking grammar in this screenshot. This from a supposed highly educted top one percenter in her words

How the fuck did this get past testing?

Mav! Sorry to burst your bubble, but the grammar throughout the entire story is... pretty bad. I'll give you this, though; the grammar in that screenshot is horrendously terrible. They could definitely benefit from the input of a good grammar Nazi. Jus' Sayin'

 

[Maviarab]

Mav! Sorry to burst your bubble, but the grammar throughout the entire story is... pretty bad. I'll give you this, though; the grammar in that screenshot is horrendously terrible. They could definitely benefit from the input of a good grammar Nazi. Jus' Sayin'

I got banned for being one remember

(Edit: I wonder how many times she used the word 'bit' in this release?)

 

[motseer]

I got banned for being one remember

Why do you think I mentioned it?

Sometimes I think, if a character says, "You got it", one more time... Just once I'd like to see the response, "No, I don't got it. I thought you had it".

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Eh jake got thrown in a game that had nothing to do with him for no other reason than to fuck with Kane. His being extremely thirsty for Olivia does not justify killing him. I might not give him help, but I also won't put him in a bad situation.

Also didn't they just tell Kane that how he does with his team is important? If so, why would Kane try to kill someone from his pod?

submission, because I also think some stuff feels off at times.
As someone who played both routes I would also say that the number of true (or maybe pure) dominant women in this game is surprisingly low. Most of them just seem to crave a guy that tells them to go down on their knees and suck his cock and they are so constantly degrading to the subs to mask the fact that they actually also want to submit (I dont say all of them, just a lot of them). I think the strangest thing is going from K4 to K5, so for your first day they call you a fucking loser and the next day they all seem to think your cock is the eight wonder of the world .

I'd argue that most of these women are bored, the men in this world are fairly malleable. Even Alexander was basically obsessed with Callista to the point of insanity. So a guy like Kane who comes along and doesnt put up with the dumb shit would appear to be quite appealing to these women. Kane is one in a million.

An interesting thing I've done is even though it costs me a point, I choose to save Yasmine because I refuse to have a food thief in my employ and Yasmine didn't deserve to be in the mind for being a shitty guard IMO.

 

[Dark Quean Olivia]

His being extremely thirsty for Olivia does not justify killing him

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I got banned for being one remember

(Edit: I wonder how many times she used the word 'bit' in this release?)

Ironically, bit wouldve helped that sentence you highlighted.

 

[Rowszix]

Eh jake got thrown in a game that had nothing to do with him for no other reason than to fuck with Kane. His being extremely thirsty for Olivia does not justify killing him. I might not give him help, but I also won't put him in a bad situation.

Also didn't they just tell Kane that how he does with his team is important? If so, why would Kane try to kill someone from his pod?


I'd argue that most of these women are bored, the men in this world are fairly malleable. Even Alexander was basically obsessed with Callista to the point of insanity. So a guy like Kane who comes along and doesnt put up with the dumb shit would appear to be quite appealing to these women. Kane is one in a million.

An interesting thing I've done is even though it costs me a point, I choose to save Yasmine because I refuse to have a food thief in my employ and Yasmine didn't deserve to be in the mind for being a shitty guard IMO.

I guess the whole pod thing will be done after the gameshow? On sub we can get some info about the last game and it should eradicate most people in the programm ... including most likely Zach and Jake too. For Jake there is a Olivia decision that should protect him and Kane might be able to help him in the last game (this is of course only for sub route, for dom route we only get the decision to help/doom Jake in demoness path yet, but maybe a similiar scene for good Olivia will come later). And with the hints given I guess Kwame will also be kinda done for (not necessarly dead, but maybe in K4 or lower. Maybe not if Kane agrees to help him in dom route but otherwise ... especially if Dominique is on her even more evil route. And if Jake survives he will most likely be purchased by Sonya (at least she wants to purchase him).
So I guess there wont be much of a pod left for Kane.

About Alexander, yeah but still as long as he lived nobody really opposed him, except Astrid and Veronica. I think maybe he was just sexist enough to not let any other guys get into power, because he thought that only guys could be really dangerous to him. That at least could be a reason why we dont really see any guys in power (besides the whole femdom theme of the game ). And while I get what you are saying I still dont really see dom Kane as that special either. I mean he havent really done anything outstanding, and to be successful he basically puts up with all their dumb shit, just from the other side of the stick . But yeah its a porn game of course all the girls want to fuck the MC - or kick him in the balls, depending on route.