Olivia likely won't be as ddep since even callista herself knows that Olivia's not obligated to be good but Kane's betrayal would sting deep. Imagine running away from alexander just to have wound up raising another Alexander? I cant imagine how they'd feel when they found that out
Yeah well but if Callista prepared Olivia and if she loved her like a daughter, I think that would also hurt, but I guess it would be even harder when Olvia and Kane don't team up and Olivia fights him. But I think you are right. Trying to get away from Alexander then making the next Alexander must be hard on her.
Not that I like either option but I have to admit that both seem pretty evil to me, especially since the fake revolution betrays a lot more people than just the MC's parents.
As if they have any right to question Kane's actions. For evil dom, that ship already sailed. Callista foreshadowed to kane about hating her. Why not make her prediction true lol. I just hope Nadia and Cynthia will support evil kane so that he still have somebody to call them as family.
Well Kane would have every right to hate her (especiall if she actually prepared Olivia). I mean, maybe she tried her "best" to protect him, but at least some clues about everything could have actually been very helpfull
. Not sure, but do we know how much intel Alexander actually had how Kane was raised? Would it really be impossible for Callista to maybe write some instructions down for him? Olivia got a private teacher for acting/music, why didn't Kane got a private teacher for being a dominant corporate asshole ?
Note: I'm on the Dom-Good and Sis-Good paths; this likely influences what I'm seeing.Well Kane would have every right to hate her (especiall if she actually prepared Olivia). I mean, maybe she tried her "best" to protect him, but at least some clues about everything could have actually been very helpfull
But seriously we don't really know a lot about Kane's childhood or what she actually taught him, so I think we have to wait if we will get any information about that.
And of course there is always Seth. He was not prepared. He just became a prop and test subject. Not sure but does Callista even talk about him? Same goes btw for Kane and Olivia, as soon as he is shipped off to Island 4 he seems basically forgotten.
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hehe, yeah it was more of a joke. I understand that he maybe acutally has a chance in the position he is right now. I just always feel bad for him
. Also I still don't trust the whole island 4/Astrid project. Maria tells him about a contact on Island 4 that will help him. If everything is good on Island 4 and there is no slavery etc. then why does he even need help? But yeah I agree with you, he is better now. But why didn't they send him immediatly there? Just for the fun of torturing him a little bit first?
Can't agree with this, she created a game where 90% of the characters with agency are women, and 99% (and I am not conviced about the 1%
) of them are absolutly horrible people.
I don't mean to offend when I write this but:Can't agree with this, she created a game where 90% of the characters with agency are women, and 99% (and I am not conviced about the 1%
But yeah I get what you mean, with that's what they do. Maybe it's also just a development change. Maybe island 4 and Seth's involvment wasn't planned from the beggining.
I would agree if the world she built was a fucking happy place and it would support the idea of men being responsible for all the shit in the world and a female led society would make it better. But it is a hellscape with the worst form of social/financial inequality you can think of and half the women are confirmed mass murderers. A lot of the women in this game are basically dehumanized evil, while a lot of the male characters are pretty innocent/positive characters (Jake, Zach, Kwame, Liam).
Ok, that makes more sense. I based my assertion upon my participation in her discord thread over a period of time where I and others interacted (sometimes with the developer or, at least, an account claiming to be) and that influences my judgement quite a bit.
How would Kane's "betrayal" sting deep? Wasn't she the one who betrayed him? Given her actions I thought creating another Alexander was precisely the point. She lied to and manipulated him his whole life. Then she abandoned him and left him to fend for himself against the wolves.
Hey, there is nothing to take personally, I enjoy a friendly discussion. I didn't really read through the discord so I don't have any insight about her mindset there.
). (with all the humiliation for other males, especially in the newer episodes), since it lacks "real" male domination on a level compared to the femdom.
Yeah, I didn't choose the dom routes for maledom or the netori aspect, I chose the dom routes because there's a lot in the game that isn't my "taste" and on the dom route the player gets to opt out of some of that. The subs by definition really don't get to choose much if anything. I use the "skip" feature quite a bit and always wonder if I'm missing out on story lore because of that.Hey, there is nothing to take personally, I enjoy a friendly discussion. I didn't really read through the discord so I don't have any insight about her mindset there.
Of course the game is an (very extreme) over the top femdom fantasy world. But as someone who played a lot of femdom games (mostly from male developers, which I think are not misandristic), the lack of male agency/extremly bad treated males is pretty normal in those fantasies (I also have to admit that I enjoy gentle/loving/conseting femdom much more than what is given us here so far, even though that is a problem of femdom porn over all
But of course you can have a different opinion, especially if you only play/enjoy the dom path.I also see the dom path more as a cuckold fantasy bull path
Intresting points, I would kind of disagree with Cole, as he was bascially a hostage for the last 20 years or something, so he is not really responsible for any shit from this time. While I completly agree that it was Alexanders idea, to bascially recreate himself with Kane. We don't have enough insight yet, about Callistas motives/planes (I am still kind of hold on to my theory that Kane actually is informed about the gambit, at least in some specific paths) to make a final judgment here. But I would absolutly agree that Kane is in a position that is so incredibly stacked against him, that you can't really hold anything against him (except maybe extrem betrayals of Jake etc.)
Actually you can choose a lot of the kinks displayed as a sub, because very often the decision making of the player switches to the perspective of the dom at the timeYeah, I didn't choose the dom routes for maledom or the netori aspect, I chose the dom routes because there's a lot in the game that isn't my "taste" and on the dom route the player gets to opt out of some of that. The subs by definition really don't get to choose much if anything. I use the "skip" feature quite a bit and always wonder if I'm missing out on story lore because of that.
I do enjoy the story though; it's why I'm here and I can't wait to see how things end.
I suppose I'm less of a dom than I am a non-sub, if that makes sense?
. But I get your point. And yes the story and how it ends, also keeps me hooked.
I've wondered and commented about that a lot. I feel as if I just don't know "whom" Olivia truly is. I'd like to think the MC would know because of their upbringing but perhaps during Olivia's time away she underwent training or exposure that changed her ethics in some way? I find myself looking hard at every Olivia scene with an eye toward trying to understand whether/not we're seeing the true Olivia...Actually you can choose a lot of the kinks displayed as a sub, because very often the decision making of the player switches to the perspective of the dom at the time
Edit: Completly different question: If we assume that Olivia is informed by Callista/Alexander about everyhting and she basically deceives anybody with her acting skills. How much of her player decision making is actually her true character or is it sill an act, and she has an actual character that is different from what we decide?
Yeah, same, I also try wo read her scenes more intensly to check out if there is somehting suspicious. But the line from Alexander in the intro where he say she can change the world for better or worse, and herself too, makes me think that our decisions acutally are who she is or who she wants to be. But of course, can't be sure about this.
I hope that's the case. If true, that would make this one of the better games I've seen in spite of the aspects I find to be undesirable for me.
