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zARRR

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Some developers take the "novel" part of VN way too seriously. Hard to fap when words are constantly being vomitted all over the screen.
Buddy if you came just to fap to Katawa Shoujo and ignore the entire story, then this game isn’t for you.
Visual novel literally means visual novel so what did you expect?
If you wanted porn or a nukige the internet is full of them
 

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Some developers take the "novel" part of VN way too seriously. Hard to fap when words are constantly being vomitted all over the screen.
You pick the wrong game to complain about because this is one of the first ones to come out and by far has the best story on here.
This is not a porn game but a great story telling VN with 5 different stories in one VN.
 

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Some developers take the "novel" part of VN way too seriously. Hard to fap when words are constantly being vomitted all over the screen.
Man, that is like complaining your action movie has too few sex scenes, just because you were looking porn in the wrong places.
The draw of this visual novel especially is the story, with sex as an optional bonus, with even the OP pointing out it's not the main focus.
Low Sexual Content
 

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Can anyone explain to me why the mc dies depending on the choice i make in this scene? How is this decision connected to the way he dies a couple of scenes later? Was i somehow supposed to know what was going to happen, or do we have to go back and make the correct choices so we don't get a game over? If that's the case, it completely breaks the immersion and ruins the experience, basing my opinion on this "ending" this vn definitely doesn't deserve all the praise it gets. I thought everyone agreed that games that have "wrong choices" that lead to game overs suck, the choices are there only as an illusion.
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Can anyone explain to me why the mc dies depending on the choice i make in this scene? How is this decision connected to the way he dies a couple of scenes later? Was i somehow supposed to know what was going to happen, or do we have to go back and make the correct choices so we don't get a game over? If that's the case, it completely breaks the immersion and ruins the experience, basing my opinion on this "ending" this vn definitely doesn't deserve all the praise it gets. I thought everyone agreed that games that have "wrong choices" that lead to game overs suck, the choices are there only as an illusion.
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Yes there are several ways to die and you hit one of them.
Best to use the walkthrough on the OP, this way you get 100% completions.
Dying is one of the scenes that you need to get 100% completion.
 

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Yes there are several ways to die and you hit one of them.
Best to use the walkthrough on the OP, this way you get 100% completions.
Dying is one of the scenes that you need to get 100% completion.
I don't want to get 100% completion, i also don't want to use a walkthrough on my first playthrough, because it would break the immersion, we shouldn't even need a walkthrough just so we don't get a game over, maybe if the choices were more clear and made more sense we could actually get an idea of what might happen, there were barely any choices and the ones i saw didn't seem to be important at all. It feels like the author had an idea but failed to implement that in an interactive visual novel, the players are supposed to guess which is the right choice or use a walkthrough, we can't have an organic experience like most of the games here. Like i said, the way the mc dies isn't even related to the choice that led to his death.
 

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I don't want to get 100% completion, i also don't want to use a walkthrough on my first playthrough, because it would break the immersion, we shouldn't even need a walkthrough just so we don't get a game over, maybe if the choices were more clear and made more sense we could actually get an idea of what might happen, there were barely any choices and the ones i saw didn't seem to be important at all. It feels like the author had an idea but failed to implement that in an interactive visual novel, the players are supposed to guess which is the right choice or use a walkthrough, we can't have an organic experience like most of the games here. Like i said, the way the mc dies isn't even related to the choice that led to his death.
Then you choose the wrong option so far so go replay and when you get to the first choice in the game make a save and restart back there when you screw up on your next play through.

My first play through I got the Emi ending on the love route.
 

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Can anyone explain to me why the mc dies depending on the choice i make in this scene? How is this decision connected to the way he dies a couple of scenes later? Was i somehow supposed to know what was going to happen, or do we have to go back and make the correct choices so we don't get a game over? If that's the case, it completely breaks the immersion and ruins the experience, basing my opinion on this "ending" this vn definitely doesn't deserve all the praise it gets. I thought everyone agreed that games that have "wrong choices" that lead to game overs suck, the choices are there only as an illusion.
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Basically this is a "joke" ending, or maybe more accurately non-cannon one. If you read the following scenes, you can understand how Hisao ends up dying. This is not a direct causality link, it's the sum of his first week at his new school.
If Hisao fails to connect to anyone in Yamaku, he basically doesn't bounce back from his stay in the hospital. A route about this would be pretty much meaningless since it would only be Hisao moping all day long without socializing and reading books in his room until the school year ends. There isn't a specific day in the first chapter where there are choices that are just "choose your arc". The choices in the intro are already significant for the route that hasn't actually started yet.

The choices are actually pretty well laid-out, though the only criticism is that they're set in a specific order, meaning you could have started a specific route without having the chance to start another one. This is why a lot of people assumed the Emi route was the standard one, since you can enter it by making only one decision, while the others may require more.

If you have your mind set on someone, and have already played through the first chapter, you should be able to start their route if you keep the personality of the character in mind.
 

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Ehhhh I don't get how this "game" ended up as a solid 5 unless the reviews are being curated like crazy.

The girls are nice and unique and interesting but the MC is booooooorrrinnnggg as wet paper and pretty insufferable. Barely managed to finish Lilly's path just for the sake of seeing her ending but I couldn't stand MC a second longer to re-play any of the others. Bleh
 

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Ehhhh I don't get how this "game" ended up as a solid 5 unless the reviews are being curated like crazy.

The girls are nice and unique and interesting but the MC is booooooorrrinnnggg as wet paper and pretty insufferable. Barely managed to finish Lilly's path just for the sake of seeing her ending but I couldn't stand MC a second longer to re-play any of the others. Bleh
Just because something is widely/highly regarded doesn't mean you're guaranteed to like it. That sort of thing happens a lot. Hope you have better luck next time.
 
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Ehhhh I don't get how this "game" ended up as a solid 5 unless the reviews are being curated like crazy.

The girls are nice and unique and interesting but the MC is booooooorrrinnnggg as wet paper and pretty insufferable. Barely managed to finish Lilly's path just for the sake of seeing her ending but I couldn't stand MC a second longer to re-play any of the others. Bleh
The MC is definitely a special case of depressed pessimistic. Which, in a way, is understandable given his situation. His whole life got uprooted and turned upside down because of a condition he had no idea he had up until a big high in a teenager's life...

But also classic "tomance anime protag" syndrom.
 

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Ehhhh I don't get how this "game" ended up as a solid 5 unless the reviews are being curated like crazy.

The girls are nice and unique and interesting but the MC is booooooorrrinnnggg as wet paper and pretty insufferable. Barely managed to finish Lilly's path just for the sake of seeing her ending but I couldn't stand MC a second longer to re-play any of the others. Bleh
If you only look at the MC then ya I can see your point but this is one of the best VN to come out for story wise.
There are 5 complete stories in this one VN and each one brings different experience to the player.
This came out in 2012, over 11 years ago and is one of the first of its type to come out.
 
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If you only look at the MC then ya I can see your point but this is one of the best VN to come out for story wise.
There are 5 complete stories in this one VN and each one brings different experience to the player.
This came out in 2012, over 11 years ago and is one of the first of its type to come out.
You forget to mention that, for the time it came out, for an amateur project, it has better quality and animated intros than a lot of profesionnal works had back then.
 

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Yeah, it was amazing at that time for the quality, and lets not forget that the disabilities give each girl something unique, for that alone I do value this VN very high, that said I did not play this in a long time and it was one of my first, so maybe is indeed harder to enjoy now.
 
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Ferghus

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Yeah, it was amazing at that time for the quality, and lets not forget that the disabilities give each girl something unique, for that alone I do value this VN very high, that said I did not play this in a long time and it was one of my first, so maybe is indeed harder to enjoy now.
For me, it wasn't that the girls were disabled that shined to me, but rather the sheer talent of portraying them as regular people who exist beyond the obvious challenges of having said disabilities. It's one of the few VNs I've played where trying to be Mr Fix-Her actually gets girls to justifiably hate you. It's also one of the few VNs where the girls have depth beyond their surface mannerism and personalities that's not "oh she's actually really nice once you get to know her" or "she may be a head above her peers, but she's really lonely and just needs a man." It's one of the few VNs that tries to explain to you that a healthy relationship comes from empathy and respect. It's also one of the few VNs where the girls have a life and social interactions that don't revolve around the MC.

Like of course the game isn't perfect and there is certainly room for improvement, but the shit it does get right makes it so much memorable than a lot of the other VNs I've played.
 

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For me, it wasn't that the girls were disabled that shined to me, but rather the sheer talent of portraying them as regular people who exist beyond the obvious challenges of having said disabilities. It's one of the few VNs I've played where trying to be Mr Fix-Her actually gets girls to justifiably hate you. It's also one of the few VNs where the girls have depth beyond their surface mannerism and personalities that's not "oh she's actually really nice once you get to know her" or "she may be a head above her peers, but she's really lonely and just needs a man." It's one of the few VNs that tries to explain to you that a healthy relationship comes from empathy and respect. It's also one of the few VNs where the girls have a life and social interactions that don't revolve around the MC.
My first blind playthrough i got emi bad ending and it was quite a slap, but (in retrospect) this is one of the best ending to get early in the game so that u get off ur stupid mc protag mindset and pick decisions like an actual decent human being
 
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For me, it wasn't that the girls were disabled that shined to me, but rather the sheer talent of portraying them as regular people who exist beyond the obvious challenges of having said disabilities. It's one of the few VNs I've played where trying to be Mr Fix-Her actually gets girls to justifiably hate you. It's also one of the few VNs where the girls have depth beyond their surface mannerism and personalities that's not "oh she's actually really nice once you get to know her" or "she may be a head above her peers, but she's really lonely and just needs a man." It's one of the few VNs that tries to explain to you that a healthy relationship comes from empathy and respect. It's also one of the few VNs where the girls have a life and social interactions that don't revolve around the MC.

Like of course the game isn't perfect and there is certainly room for improvement, but the shit it does get right makes it so much memorable than a lot of the other VNs I've played.
The sheer depth of the character's psychee is what floored me.
Back then I had checked quite a few old school style dating sim like what inspired this one, and honestly all the girls felt shallow compared to this one.
Though it's not always for the weak of heart. I remember Hanako's and Rin's route crushed me. When the writers want to show you that a girl is strugglign and suffering, they make you feel it.

I should really go back to it and try the other routes, though I doubt I'll love any of the other girls quite as much as Hanako.

Though I do have gripes with her route.
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Which is probably why I never attempted her friend's, Lily's, route... The fact she'd tell you to do that felt fucked up to me.
 

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Another element that is not often talked about is the music.
It's not good, it's incredible, it melts into the game so perfectly that it creates an atmosphere of tranquility, joyful melanchony or crushing desperation whenever it needs to.
Can't play it without it, KS with no sounds it's a completely different experience.

Shoutout to Air guitar it will be forever etched in my mind.
 

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I'd argue that most highly regarded things are kind of trash TBH. 80% of the planet is just a hive mind of mediocrity. Pop music, Pornhub, McDonalds, Call of Duty, etc.
I don't think anyone considers any porn site, fast food chain, or any game churns out a title every year to be highly regarded. If anything, people shit on these things constantly. Are there talented artists that don't get as much recognition? Certainly. I don't think it's so much of a "hive mind" thing going on as much as you only need an X number of people to buy into this one thing for it to be considered successful and have the funds to continue marketing it. There just happens to be a lot of overlap. If you went up to someone with a checklist of 40 items, I'm sure they'd at most check off 3 or 4 things.
 
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