VN Ren'Py Kingdom of Deception [v0.14.2.1] [Hreinn Games]

[Wyrdsmithe]

Has it occurred to some of you that, while this is a porn game, having some interesting story and characters may be something the creators wish to have as well? If you just want a busty girl getting fucked you can find that anywhere, what makes it better is when there is firm context and established reasons why the busty girl is getting fucked, and who the busty girl is. The creators very clearly do not want to simply make a cheap porno, and if you just want sexual art there are millions of such images on the internet. I am in agreement that they should give their backers more information and be more open about the development process - but they owe little to people who are not paying for their effort, and even less to people who do not care in the slightest about the non pornographic elements.

If you want to tell me nobody cares about the story and context, suit yourself - but the popularity and enjoyability of games like Noxian Nights or Sierra's own The Last Sovereign that place heavy emphasis on the characters and their progression is a testament that there is far more to enjoyable porn than just a big rack. If you really do not care - I know several excellent artists who produce work much more rapidly because there is no need to write or code.

 

[dafvid112]

I'd agree but other than Neve I do not see interesting side characters or a good story and the slow pace is still not justified imo. Wish I could look into the development.

 

[xGazo]

They kinda shoot them self in the foot by creating the universe so vast because now it's almost mandatory to keep adding new characters and sprites to fill the map otherwise the game would feel unfinished like there would have been more that could had been done to it overall I like the game there isn't many game's like this for Android at least

 

[r34X]

Noxian Nights had a smaller scope, better characters, and knew it was a game about weird fetish sex.

KoD feels like a game that has huge ambitions, and only reluctantly provides the sex scenes their fans want, like the whole idea is beneath their end goal or something, it is hard to describe.

Focus on the nsfw aspect of the game, embrace the fetish and kink aspect of it, and keep the action moving forward with a story that maintains a highly sexual atmosphere for the heroine. Stop pacing the game so there is 1 hour of bs filler in gameplay and boring dialog for every 5min of innuendo and harder sex content.

Also... Political intrigue is fucking boring when shoveled out in large volumes like this game seems to relish...

 

[bauman]

I feel the game lost sense of scope. It's too ambitious for it's own good and for a small dev team.

 

[JasDoc]

Do devs share any news on their discord or they are as silent as on Patreon page?

 

[WiccaWicked]

-0.6.4 Public Release - September 23, 2018
-0.7.3 Public Release - January 6, 2019
-0.8.3 Public Release - April 17, 2019
-No words of 0.9 for 2 months

I understand slow progress and that 5k$ a month doesn't necessarily pay the bills, but what the actual fuck!? I have to compliment Nomo's art which has gotten tremendously better since Noxian Nights, but this has literally become a joke at this point.

You know, 5k a month could EASILY pay the bills if one didn't have two completely superfluous people no one wanted to join and since joining have only slowed the production of the game and produced content a large portion of the fanbase is unhappy with. NN was a pretty easy formula to replicate: Nomo art, decent characters that whore themselves out for fun/power/money/safety, tentacle monsters. It's not complicated, we want to see a strong girl getting fucked/fucking people. When a game is free, there is no expectation of frequent and flawless updates, but when you're making 40-50K a year to draw a naked chick, you should more than three scenes per month, on average. I can't really see how it's taking this long other than hreinn is literally just delaying releases to squeeze as much money as possible out of the tard fans who will support anything forever and never realize they're being gouged. Go on their patreon and try to leave a comment with ANY criticism, you get shouted into the floor. Thank god sierra left and dissociated herself from this shitshow, she has talent AND a decent work ethic.

 

[Bytrain]

Do devs share any news on their discord or they are as silent as on Patreon page?

Nothing important lately

 

[Anmitsu]

Yep, at this point it's hard to see it as something other than milking out your retarded rich fanbois as much as you can and not being deluded.
They were already promising faster updates and more communication, probably more times than once and what? Fucking nothing.

 

[UncleVT]

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Hey guys - update post. We just wanted to make sure everyone gets an update on where we're at for 0.9.

Above you can see a preview of the new human locations Sabia will be able to visit. These are very important for the game and story, so we are glad to have completed them. The human cities will have 3 states, one for small villages, one for medium sized towns and one for the biggest like Whitecrest. They will all introduce quest lines, characters and content for Sabia and her story and of course more scenes and sexual content.

At the moment we have mostly completed the heavy work of creating the art assets and writing for the huge content load of the human and outside of the camp territories and what is next is to combine all this into an update and integrate it into the game. It's a bit longer than the last two patches simply because all of the new assets have taken longer to create and implement.

- Nomo has been working hard to make sure that all the new assets look good. This is the biggest asset introduction since the game started - several new human buildings that will be used for human villages, several new sprites with expressions and more ability to manipulate them than previous sprites for different and new characters on top of the humans ones we showed.We also have other small orc villages you have been seeing on the map and will now be able to visit.
- Nds has reworked the stat attributes and items to provide a more consistent combat experience. As a result he's had to go through and rebalance and recheck every fight to make sure it's all still doable.
- Monsinne has been working on making Grok og Dar have a little more variability and some events that are a result of your sub/dom level. Although sub/dom is important, it wasn't particularly reflected in any camp interactions outside of specific quest dialogues. He's also working on fleshing out the basis of the settlements/villages. With several new visitable areas, that means that they all need to include dialogue and conversation framework for future content.

We're very excited since it's such a big addition in terms of physical assets. We're equally excited to be able to show everyone once it's done. We will keep you guys updated on a release date once we are sure of it.And with this content out of the way we can really start focusing only on progressing the story and introducing more scenes and quests for such with the help of the new available regions.

Thanks for your continued support!

 

[dafvid112]

Well, if you can believe what they say the wanted changes to pace and a focus on quests is coming after this update. If you can't they are bullshitting for more time and money. For me, I was just convinced to skip this update and see what's up in september/october. Gotta admit I am way too negative and getting frustrated checking the thread every 2-3 days. I hope it will be great. Peace!

 

[Evergrey]

well the thing i really wanted will be finally be added, sabias stats now affecting her standing with other npcs coz it just felt pointless at this point

 

[Hanten]

KoD 0.7 "After this update of minor background changes we can finally start focusing on more scenes"
KoD 0.8 "After this update of technical background changes we can finally start focusing on more scenes"
KoD 0.9 "After this update of story background changes we can finally start focusing on more scenes"

Maybe when we get to September they'll finally start adding more than 3 Sabia scenes in to each update.

 

[561397]

Their formula, as it stands, is to post one update at the end of every month in order to keep patrons satisfied. I will be willing to bet $10, with anyone, that we will not hear of a release date until halfway through July, and it will not be here until the end of July or beginning of August.

 

[Deathwings]

This shit is why I'm not supporting them anymore.

 

[I Love These Games]

We need faster updates with more dicking of Sabia. I want them to be to be as consistent as wirh Noxian Nights..

 

[WiccaWicked]

We need faster updates with more dicking of Sabia. I want them to be to be as consistent as wirh Noxian Nights..

They won't be. There are too many people working on it. When it was just nomo, he said "I wanna do this" and then he did it. Now, he has to contend with the other two retards trying to figure out how to make an HRPG in the style of a game that nomo has ALREADY MADE. Dude needs to ditch the two cronies and just do it himself.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Seems like this thread became a nest for people to circle jerk about the same thing over and over. Trully a shame...

 

[Viressa]

They won't be. There are too many people working on it. When it was just nomo, he said "I wanna do this" and then he did it. Now, he has to contend with the other two retards trying to figure out how to make an HRPG in the style of a game that nomo has ALREADY MADE. Dude needs to ditch the two cronies and just do it himself.

Nomo was never working by himself, though?

 

[psycohunter96]

Seems like this thread became a nest for people to circle jerk about the same thing over and over. Trully a shame...

They are not wrong to act like jerks thow. The creator took a game everyone loved and turned it into a money milker. He lied about the way and the frequency of the updates multiple times. I think the problem is the people who just give them money without complaining at all they encourage such behaviour. The people here are frustrated and they have every right to be