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Well, you could use the search function on the forum to find your answer, since it'll be the exact same one every time this is asked... I'll assume you're new to forums, and websites in general, so here's a tutorial.
Look at the top right of this thread's page, there's a box that says "search". Click that and type in "gallery unlock". If you look below where you typed in what to search you'll see another box that says "this thread". This means that the forum will look only through this thread to find when people have already written "gallery unlock". Then you can click search. This will bring up a list of posts where people have talked about gallery unlocking in the thread already, and all the answers for how to do it already posted dozens, or even hundreds of times in the thread (within the last couple of pages of the thread even!)
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- Jan 31, 2018
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Did they say what comes after this update? Like, when the next one is going to be or something?
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Asking that in the Discord server would grant you a kick from the server.
Glad you're asking here since we don't even fucking know when they're gonna work it up
Has it really changed that drastically?Before everything fall apart, it was something akin to a breath of fresh air
Now? Not even both the game and the CG gallery worth anything, not even microsecond fap
I haven't played this since like before the pandemic started.
Fuck bro time is slipping away too fast
- Jul 12, 2017
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Drastically is a slight understatement
2020s weren't a good time for Kingdom of Deception and there never will be a good time going forward either
Don't expect anything good coming our way from now on... just sayin'
Nomo can still draw well when he wants to. Ylva looked very nicely in the first part of this update. The problem comes form the simplified or sketchy style artwork that can be easily modified and fitted into smaller scenes. In theory it could be a good way to spice up the camp life a bit, but in practice Hreinn's coder can't handle these modular events well and so even tho the art was done in march, the writing was done in april, we still have no clue when the last third of this patch will be ready. In 0.12 this took them about 8 months...
So right now the "filler" that was supposed to be a bit of bonus to the main dish took at least a full year (so far) of dev time away from the main content in the span of 2 patches. This isn't what anyone wanted.
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No, he is incompetent. Even I can see that despite the fact I don't know shit about coding. (In comparison to others. I know a thing or two.)
Honestly: I would never say I could do better, thats absolutely not the case with my amateurish skills, but looking back at the past 2 years, I'm not sure if I would perform worse than he did.
Remember when Nomo once said he (the coder) had a blackout and due to this, he had to start over again? In retrospectiv, I'm pretty sure he just messed up and had to start over again. And this (hypothetical) pattern seems to repeat for the past 2 years.
(Edit: Grammar. My english sucks like my skills in coding.
)Could you tell me a bit more about what's bad with the coding?No, he is incompetent. Even I can see that despite the fact I don't know shit about coding. (In comparison to others. I know a thing or two.)
Honestly: I would never say I could do better, thats absolutely not the case with my amateurish skills, but looking back at the past 2 years, I'm not sure if I would perform worse than he did.
Remember when Nomo once said he (the coder) had a blackout and due to this, he had to start over again? In retrospectiv, I'm pretty sure he just messed up and had to start over again. And this (hypothetical) pattern seems to repeat for the past 2 years.
(Edit: Grammar. My english sucks like my skills in coding.
- Nov 4, 2019
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RenPy is a simple engine to work with, based on Python. Yet it takes NDS several months to do minimal work.
I don't know anything about programing, so i'm asking everyone to correct me or provide any more information on this topic, but the way i see it as an outsider, they basically have two options for the modular scenes:
1. Just use full separate pictures to illustrate the scene and just switch to a full other picture if something like a facial expression or hand placement changes. More or less what they have been doing all along in the h-scenes.
2. Have most of the scene as a "background" and add those small changes over it as a layer. Some of the groping pictures work like this, normal conversations and clothing options do this too and there are a few hundred games using this method in this site for further reference.
In theory, once the art assets are done, the writer and the coder could make new scenes on their own and the artist could work on new stuff, so this should be a good method.
What technicality am i missing here? By the looks of it, this should not be a problem that takes 4-8 months to do each time. Is there some kind of back-end reason or something i just didn't consider yet?
I'm genuinely asking this, because i've expressed a very negative stance against NDS and i don't want it to be out of pure ignorance.
1. Just use full separate pictures to illustrate the scene and just switch to a full other picture if something like a facial expression or hand placement changes. More or less what they have been doing all along in the h-scenes.
2. Have most of the scene as a "background" and add those small changes over it as a layer. Some of the groping pictures work like this, normal conversations and clothing options do this too and there are a few hundred games using this method in this site for further reference.
In theory, once the art assets are done, the writer and the coder could make new scenes on their own and the artist could work on new stuff, so this should be a good method.
What technicality am i missing here? By the looks of it, this should not be a problem that takes 4-8 months to do each time. Is there some kind of back-end reason or something i just didn't consider yet?
I'm genuinely asking this, because i've expressed a very negative stance against NDS and i don't want it to be out of pure ignorance.
Well, you've gotten it pretty much right. There's literally no reason the modular scenes need the artist (Nomo) involved after the assets are created. The way the art assets should be made is just like you said, though IIRC they have a lot of them in Hreinn's games are pre combined layers for each one instead of the individual layers being combined in the game itself.
But that only applies if the ARTIST is the bottleneck. I'm like many where I have a small amount of knowledge of coding (engineering course gave me some C++, Matlab, and more specialist programs), but even then I can see that the amount of time taken and "causes" of the coding delays are bullshit / amatuer at best. The one claim that a power outage caused them to have to restart is particularly bad, since ANYONE doing coding for money should be backing up their code. Basically you should be backing up your code in at least 2 locations very frequently, depending on how much you've done in a session. If you have a crash / blackout / hard drive failure then you lose minimal progress since you should have a recent backup of it.
Then there's the fact that renpy itself and python in general have a hell of a lot of free to use code examples / libraries available. So a lot of things you don't need to code from scratch, just find something to use as an example or that can be used as is.
We can only guess from the minimal news they've given for the delays, but my thoughts are that they're the procrastinator type of coder. They figure "Oh, this is easy, I can get this done in a week." So they put it off too long, hit the massive bugs, issues, or other delays. Then they need to pull an excuse out of their ass, which the most common one I've seen across all projects is the "computer died, everything lost". If they're completely amatuer that can be excusable 1-2 times but anyone with more experience or being paid for it it's not really.
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Since the 3 posts above summing it up quite good, there isn't much more what I could ad to the topic what wasn't said already.
G'day strangers!
While I'm aware that no noose is good noose, the notification of where a noose may or may not be isn't always unhelpful, thus:
While I'm aware that no noose is good noose, the notification of where a noose may or may not be isn't always unhelpful, thus:
- Jul 12, 2017
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I wonder why the other guy got kicked while you don't when asking for the update?
Depends how they asked, I s'pose. Interesting to know, though. I'd go back through the pages and see when their messages stopped on discord, however that would only work if their F95 and Discord identities matched up.