VN Ren'Py Kingdom of Deception [v0.14.2.2] [Hreinn Games]

[CourierNPC]

is the cg rip up to date?

I think the CG RIP only covers up to update 0.4.0 or something, which was very outdated by now (unless if you'd like to see the old art of Nomo before the quality drop).

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the web view of what has been recently released, as far as CGs go.

 

[JennyW]

God bless you man. Fuck this quest. What the fuck was the developer thinking.

EDIT: my god, bris taking over the tents makes absolutely no sense. terrible writing. none of this makes any sense. It's a complete turn off. The better angle would be for sabia to just work at the fucking tents to reward the orcs after winning battles against her mage sister; that would fit along side the severely neglected main story.

Either Vehlis should take over the tents, NEVE, or whoever Sabia sided with. If Sabia sided with Tekrok, Tekrok takes over the tents and appoints one of his minions or something. Then they use the money to fund the war effort against Sabia's sister.

Fuck, this writing went to total and utter shit.

Bris taking over the tents makes no fucking sense. She's had almost no character development. It should be either Vehlis, Neve, or whichever Orc Sabia sided with.

I totally agree with every word. The latest update from Briss made me uninstall the game. I waited for an update for almost a year, but it turned out to be a heap of garbage without mechanics and alternatives. Previously, at least you could choose whether Sabia behaves like a submissive or refuses, now I don't even have the freedom of choice...

No, I certainly understand when one of the orc leaders after a long storyline dominates Sabia, but when the whore from the tent humiliates Sabia, and you don't even have the opportunity to tell her to fuck off, it's stupid.

Unfortunately, the plot of the game has become boring and linear, the animation is lazy, nothing significant happens, there is no battle dynamics. Even more, after the updates, there is no battle at all, both single and in detachments, although everything was before, even the style of painting became worse!

Also wait for tiny updates by half a year. I see no reason to pay developers on patreon, they are completely lazy. Kingdom of Deception was such an interesting project in the beginning, and is so dull now. It's a pity. It used to be my favorite game. I practically lived it. But unfortunately, the game rolled very badly, I removed KoD and I don't think I'll install it again.

 

[Xiblis]

I am sorry but the rescue Vehlis quest is so hard bugged.
After discussing divination of the Keep with Alioch you have the option to rescue vehlis, but you need to buy a potion to avoid bad ending. However at the market I have no dialogue option to buy it.

No matter what combination of scans I use, no matter how about I go to Jasmines room no matter how many times I visit the castle the dialogue option for the potion just wont appear.

I also tried doing everything as it is written in the Walkthrough that didnt help either, so the quest is bugged or the walkthrough is faulty.

 

[Xiblis]

Okay never mind, what the walkthrough infact did not state is you need to investigate all areas before the you can buy the potion

 

[CourierNPC]

Unfortunately, the plot of the game has become boring and linear, the animation is lazy, nothing significant happens, there is no battle dynamics. Even more, after the updates, there is no battle at all, both single and in detachments, although everything was before, even the style of painting became worse!

An unfortunate price to pay after losing such a good writer on their team.

I'd volunteer to be their proofreader if they open up a position for it, to be honest.

 

[JennyW]

An unfortunate price to pay after losing such a good writer on their team.

I'd volunteer to be their proofreader if they open up a position for it, to be honest.

I'm sure that would be great. When a person does what he has a passion for ))

Maybe you should write Nomo? Who knows, maybe this will be the beginning of cooperation and the game will become great again.

 

[Karminator]

Just downloaded the game and I got to say it lives up to its hype

It's kinda retarded that the sabia who is probably the second strongest character in the orc camp gets dominated by a average cat girl and few orcs .

Sabia has close ties with the merchant lady and the new temp chief . (Can't remember their names)

Catgirls have a lower reputation than humans as it is .and to some extent most orcs do know sabia can kill them so it's redicilous that a catgirl is leading the tents directly with backing of the orcs.



They should have gone with the pure black mail+humiliation route . Or give a rational explanation on why the cat girl hates saibia after all she did to help the catgirls.


Anyway has anyone tried the DOM path , I wonder what will happen then?

 

[Enigmanic]

Just downloaded the game and I got to say it lives up to its hype

It's kinda retarded that the sabia who is probably the second strongest character in the orc camp gets dominated by a average cat girl and few orcs .

Sabia has close ties with the merchant lady and the new temp chief . (Can't remember their names)

Catgirls have a lower reputation than humans as it is .and to some extent most orcs do know sabia can kill them so it's redicilous that a catgirl is leading the tents directly with backing of the orcs.



They should have gone with the pure black mail+humiliation route . Or give a rational explanation on why the cat girl hates saibia after all she did to help the catgirls.


Anyway has anyone tried the DOM path , I wonder what will happen then?

If you follow the Dom path - Bris tries to start the whole blackmail business but Sabia turns the tables on her. Bris then gets dominated, passed around and humiliated for Sabia's amusement to teach her a lesson.

 

[Karminator]

I totally agree with every word. The latest update from Briss made me uninstall the game. I waited for an update for almost a year, but it turned out to be a heap of garbage without mechanics and alternatives. Previously, at least you could choose whether Sabia behaves like a submissive or refuses, now I don't even have the freedom of choice...

No, I certainly understand when one of the orc leaders after a long storyline dominates Sabia, but when the whore from the tent humiliates Sabia, and you don't even have the opportunity to tell her to fuck off, it's stupid.

Unfortunately, the plot of the game has become boring and linear, the animation is lazy, nothing significant happens, there is no battle dynamics. Even more, after the updates, there is no battle at all, both single and in detachments, although everything was before, even the style of painting became worse!

Also wait for tiny updates by half a year. I see no reason to pay developers on patreon, they are completely lazy. Kingdom of Deception was such an interesting project in the beginning, and is so dull now. It's a pity. It used to be my favorite game. I practically lived it. But unfortunately, the game rolled very badly, I removed KoD and I don't think I'll install it again.

Wow there was no Dom path in this? You mean the bad ass saibia who raided and dominated everyone ? Gets forced to be a sub dafuk


I played the sun rout and even I felt it was dumb that some no name orc can rape her againt her will when she can probably break their necks like twigs


Also there is a massive drop in originality in the art , they re used most of the existing art and just replaced orcs with humans. It's obvious they have gone lazy .


Best to uninstall it , I just realised this game has been in development of 4 years wtf , i would say the story is not even 40% completed. They will just milk it fir 10 years, with 5mins of new content every year

 

[Karminator]

If you follow the Dom path - Bris tries to start the whole blackmail business but Sabia turns the tables on her. Bris then gets dominated, passed around and humiliated for Sabia's amusement to teach her a lesson.

Off atleast they got that right , imagine playing the game for years waiting for a new update and they ruin your DOM build


Anyway it's a good game with replay value but sub path looks dumb at the end

 

[CourierNPC]

I'm sure that would be great. When a person does what he has a passion for ))

Maybe you should write Nomo? Who knows, maybe this will be the beginning of cooperation and the game will become great again.

Tried to send them an email inquiring an open staff slot a few years ago, but to no avail.

 

[CourierNPC]

Just downloaded the game and I got to say it lives up to its hype

It's kinda retarded that the sabia who is probably the second strongest character in the orc camp gets dominated by a average cat girl and few orcs .

Sabia has close ties with the merchant lady and the new temp chief . (Can't remember their names)

Catgirls have a lower reputation than humans as it is .and to some extent most orcs do know sabia can kill them so it's redicilous that a catgirl is leading the tents directly with backing of the orcs.



They should have gone with the pure black mail+humiliation route . Or give a rational explanation on why the cat girl hates saibia after all she did to help the catgirls.


Anyway has anyone tried the DOM path , I wonder what will happen then?

Out of these three people, none of which had the same expertise as the old writer who left the team some years ago. I kinda get it if in between the three had no idea how submission works. In between them, it's probably their first time writing such scenario -- but who knows?

To be honest, I know BDSM from R34 (meaning I only knew the very tip of the iceberg), but wouldn't hurt that much to ask people who had expertise on the matter to get a better understanding.

I kinda sense that Hreinn as a team is getting more burned out.

 

[JennyW]

Wow there was no Dom path in this? You mean the bad ass saibia who raided and dominated everyone ? Gets forced to be a sub dafuk


I played the sun rout and even I felt it was dumb that some no name orc can rape her againt her will when she can probably break their necks like twigs


Also there is a massive drop in originality in the art , they re used most of the existing art and just replaced orcs with humans. It's obvious they have gone lazy .


Best to uninstall it , I just realised this game has been in development of 4 years wtf , i would say the story is not even 40% completed. They will just milk it fir 10 years, with 5mins of new content every year

Quite right. I was shocked that my Sabia, who commanded the military and defeated everyone in the arena, was standing and could not say anything to the cat girl!

Yes, I choose the submissive path, but even when the shaman or the orc leader tried to humiliate me, at least I always had the choice to refuse or come up with something. For example, I didn't go through the shaman's rituals, just because I didn't want to. But there is an absolute linearity of choice. Now, if you are a submissive, then any character can use you as they want. And there's nothing you can do about it. Idiocy.

And by the way, you are absolutely right about the laziness of the developers who simply replaced the orcs with black mercenaries. It's a cheap move. I think you're right. They will continue to milk the game for years, with tiny updates, without the development of the main plot.

 

[JennyW]

If you follow the Dom path - Bris tries to start the whole blackmail business but Sabia turns the tables on her. Bris then gets dominated, passed around and humiliated for Sabia's amusement to teach her a lesson.

Thank you. I was wondering what happens in the case of the DOM path. The problem is that the SUBs are not given a choice. Although before, the player always had a choice.

 

[Enigmanic]

Thank you. I was wondering what happens in the case of the DOM path. The problem is that the SUBs are not given a choice. Although before, the player always had a choice.

True, you usually get a choice but in this case it's a matter of:
Bris tries to blackmail Sabia.
If Sub..
If Dom..

 

[Enigmanic]

Tried to send them an email inquiring an open staff slot a few years ago, but to no avail.

I wouldn't hold your breath. I'd been supporting the game since 2017. I've also been running a couple erotic online roleplaying campaigns for 4 years. I have offered more than once to help write for the game. I even offered to work for free.

 

[Seannnq]

can someone send me or post here a save right before the power struggle for tents please my previous laptop broke and i cant be bothered to play again also sub if possible

 

[CourierNPC]

I wouldn't hold your breath. I'd been supporting the game since 2017. I've also been running a couple erotic online roleplaying campaigns for 4 years. I have offered more than once to help write for the game. I even offered to work for free.

They didn't even bother replying, too. So I kinda figured out what kind of people I'm working with. From there, I knew these folks aren't the ones who opened themselves up easily unless they are really in a pinch.

 

[JennyW]

I wouldn't hold your breath. I'd been supporting the game since 2017. I've also been running a couple erotic online roleplaying campaigns for 4 years. I have offered more than once to help write for the game. I even offered to work for free.

It's a pity. The support of community enthusiasts always helps the project develop.

I think there are only two possible explanations for the lack of response. KoD developers may simply not understand the value of working with an audience (which I personally doubt, given that they use Patreon).

Or the creators of kingdom of deception are no longer interested in developing their own game and the logical conclusion of the story. Considering this project simply as a long-term source of profit. No passion or interest in the game itself.

 

[Evergrey]

It's a pity. The support of community enthusiasts always helps the project develop.

I think there are only two possible explanations for the lack of response. KoD developers may simply not understand the value of working with an audience (which I personally doubt, given that they use Patreon).

Or the creators of kingdom of deception are no longer interested in developing their own game and the logical conclusion of the story. Considering this project simply as a long-term source of profit. No passion or interest in the game itself.

i agree on you on the latter part but i do think that having the community dictate the progression of the story tends to ruin it and from alot of games that allow the community to affect major plot direction of the story it tends to go either 2 ways, one it gets soo diluted to please a mass audience that it gets boring (i do think that KoD is one of the games that is heading this way) or 2 that it develops major feature creep like promising way too much and not progressing the main plot to fullfill said promises (which i think KoD also suffers from this)