Enigmanic

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Thank you. I was wondering what happens in the case of the DOM path. The problem is that the SUBs are not given a choice. Although before, the player always had a choice.
True, you usually get a choice but in this case it's a matter of:
Bris tries to blackmail Sabia.
If Sub..
If Dom..
 

Seannnq

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can someone send me or post here a save right before the power struggle for tents please my previous laptop broke and i cant be bothered to play again also sub if possible
 

CourierNPC

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I wouldn't hold your breath. I'd been supporting the game since 2017. I've also been running a couple erotic online roleplaying campaigns for 4 years. I have offered more than once to help write for the game. I even offered to work for free.
They didn't even bother replying, too. So I kinda figured out what kind of people I'm working with. From there, I knew these folks aren't the ones who opened themselves up easily unless they are really in a pinch.
 

JennyW

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I wouldn't hold your breath. I'd been supporting the game since 2017. I've also been running a couple erotic online roleplaying campaigns for 4 years. I have offered more than once to help write for the game. I even offered to work for free.
It's a pity. The support of community enthusiasts always helps the project develop.

I think there are only two possible explanations for the lack of response. KoD developers may simply not understand the value of working with an audience (which I personally doubt, given that they use Patreon).

Or the creators of kingdom of deception are no longer interested in developing their own game and the logical conclusion of the story. Considering this project simply as a long-term source of profit. No passion or interest in the game itself. :rolleyes:
 
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Evergrey

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It's a pity. The support of community enthusiasts always helps the project develop.

I think there are only two possible explanations for the lack of response. KoD developers may simply not understand the value of working with an audience (which I personally doubt, given that they use Patreon).

Or the creators of kingdom of deception are no longer interested in developing their own game and the logical conclusion of the story. Considering this project simply as a long-term source of profit. No passion or interest in the game itself. :rolleyes:
i agree on you on the latter part but i do think that having the community dictate the progression of the story tends to ruin it and from alot of games that allow the community to affect major plot direction of the story it tends to go either 2 ways, one it gets soo diluted to please a mass audience that it gets boring (i do think that KoD is one of the games that is heading this way) or 2 that it develops major feature creep like promising way too much and not progressing the main plot to fullfill said promises (which i think KoD also suffers from this)
 

JennyW

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i agree on you on the latter part but i do think that having the community dictate the progression of the story tends to ruin it and from alot of games that allow the community to affect major plot direction of the story it tends to go either 2 ways, one it gets soo diluted to please a mass audience that it gets boring (i do think that KoD is one of the games that is heading this way) or 2 that it develops major feature creep like promising way too much and not progressing the main plot to fullfill said promises (which i think KoD also suffers from this)
I didn't say anything about how community should dictate the progression of the story. :D

The point is that it would be nice if developers paid attention to enthusiasts who want to help them make the game better. Especially when everyone sees the obvious drop in the level of the story script, the lack of new ideas and game mechanics. :cautious:
 
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Evergrey

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I didn't say anything about how community should dictate the progression of the story. :D

The point is that it would be nice if developers paid attention to enthusiasts who want to help them make the game better. Especially when everyone sees the obvious drop in the level of the story script, the lack of new ideas and game mechanics. :cautious:
people helping is still the same thing more less as its them influencing it in one way or the other though and there are better solutions to it like setting actual viable goals and fulfilling those goals in a feasible schedule thats actually why i agree with the assessment that the devs feel like they don't care anymore and that this is only a cash grab for them now
 

Jinsoyun

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It's a pity. The support of community enthusiasts always helps the project develop.

I think there are only two possible explanations for the lack of response. KoD developers may simply not understand the value of working with an audience (which I personally doubt, given that they use Patreon).

Or the creators of kingdom of deception are no longer interested in developing their own game and the logical conclusion of the story. Considering this project simply as a long-term source of profit. No passion or interest in the game itself. :rolleyes:
No, i think you missed the most likely case: management issues.
Namely the fact that Hreinn basically has no management to speak of. I won't go into the list of reasons, but as it stands without any proper management or inner structure, adding more people to the project could make things slower.

To avoid misunderstanding: i'm sure that if Hreinn could accept community help, then the game would be overall better and maybe the updates faster, but in order to do so, first they would have to make internal improvements first and between an artist, a writer and a programmer it is absolutely possible that none of them are good at these kinds of things.
 

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I wouldn't hold your breath. I'd been supporting the game since 2017.
Why?? This is honestly quite shocking to hear. I mean, props for you to support something, but this one? There are so many more deserving teams and underappreciated solo devs out there that could benefit more of your support and be thankful and appreciative of it while also posting progress reports and delivering content as quickly as they can -- unlike Hreinn Games. I gotta believe that you know that's true.

Look, I'm not trying to denigrate your choice here; I respect you as a fellow Zoner. I myself have supported them -- in the past; not now however. The way they are now -- how they conduct themselves and the "progress" they make on KoD -- simply doesn't justify them getting anyone's financial support until they shape up. I'm about given up on them, to be honest. They haven't earned the rights to anyone's hard-earned money, in my opinion. They have done a fine job of poisoning the well on the other hand, and they need to work on clearing that mess up first.

I mean, wow, you've been supporting them since 2017? Jesus Christ, I feel like I need to give you some kind of achievement, or somethin'. ^^" I don't know, I guess I'll pray to the gaming gawds to bless you for your undying support of a game that's been through development hell... Don't you ever feel like you're just being milked at times though? *Sighs* I HOPE YOU WIN THE LOTTERY AND HAVE NOTHING BUT HAPPY DAYS AHEAD OF YOU!!! ;]

*Just point of fact, I went with the assumption that you've been supporting them financially all this time. If that's not the case, then... I guess this post is kinda moot, lol. ^^'
 

Enigmanic

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Why?? This is honestly quite shocking to hear. I mean, props for you to support something, but this one? There are so many more deserving teams and underappreciated solo devs out there that could benefit more of your support and be thankful and appreciative of it while also posting progress reports and delivering content as quickly as they can -- unlike Hreinn Games. I gotta believe that you know that's true.

Look, I'm not trying to denigrate your choice here; I respect you as a fellow Zoner. I myself have supported them -- in the past; not now however. The way they are now -- how they conduct themselves and the "progress" they make on KoD -- simply doesn't justify them getting anyone's financial support until they shape up. I'm about given up on them, to be honest. They haven't earned the rights to anyone's hard-earned money, in my opinion. They have done a fine job of poisoning the well on the other hand, and they need to work on clearing that mess up first.

I mean, wow, you've been supporting them since 2017? Jesus Christ, I feel like I need to give you some kind of achievement, or somethin'. ^^" I don't know, I guess I'll pray to the gaming gawds to bless you for your undying support of a game that's been through development hell... Don't you ever feel like you're just being milked at times though? *Sighs* I HOPE YOU WIN THE LOTTERY AND HAVE NOTHING BUT HAPPY DAYS AHEAD OF YOU!!! ;]

*Just point of fact, I went with the assumption that you've been supporting them financially all this time. If that's not the case, then... I guess this post is kinda moot, lol. ^^'
All valid points.
I initially started pledging because the game started out strong and I was enthusiastic after playing Noxian Nights. Over time I made some great friends in their Discord server. As things started going downhill I continued supporting them financially hoping the current writer would shape up and things would improve. But over time I eventually reduced my $15/month pledge and early this spring I finally dropped down to a dollar. At this point I just stick around to watch the dumpster fire and interact with friends in their Discord.
 
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JennyW

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Why?? This is honestly quite shocking to hear. I mean, props for you to support something, but this one? There are so many more deserving teams and underappreciated solo devs out there that could benefit more of your support and be thankful and appreciative of it while also posting progress reports and delivering content as quickly as they can -- unlike Hreinn Games. I gotta believe that you know that's true.

Look, I'm not trying to denigrate your choice here; I respect you as a fellow Zoner. I myself have supported them -- in the past; not now however. The way they are now -- how they conduct themselves and the "progress" they make on KoD -- simply doesn't justify them getting anyone's financial support until they shape up. I'm about given up on them, to be honest. They haven't earned the rights to anyone's hard-earned money, in my opinion. They have done a fine job of poisoning the well on the other hand, and they need to work on clearing that mess up first.

I mean, wow, you've been supporting them since 2017? Jesus Christ, I feel like I need to give you some kind of achievement, or somethin'. ^^" I don't know, I guess I'll pray to the gaming gawds to bless you for your undying support of a game that's been through development hell... Don't you ever feel like you're just being milked at times though? *Sighs* I HOPE YOU WIN THE LOTTERY AND HAVE NOTHING BUT HAPPY DAYS AHEAD OF YOU!!! ;]

*Just point of fact, I went with the assumption that you've been supporting them financially all this time. If that's not the case, then... I guess this post is kinda moot, lol. ^^'
Unfortunately, Kingdom of Deception is quite unique. I mean western style of drawing (I hate anime), wild raсeplay with orcs, strong and interesting heroine (at least she was before the last update), as well as a good storyline and game mechanics (they were also in this game earlier). :cautious:

Kingdom of Deception was my favorite game. Before it became a routine for developers who didn't care about it...
 

Shakira

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With the current rate of updates, it doesn't look like we'll get to the war line with Lundar any time soon. If we get there at all ... :cautious:
Yeah, they missed an opportunity to show us some Sabia x Lynn, let's hope we live long enough to see the story progress to that point :LOL:
 
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