- Jul 12, 2017
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They didn't even bother replying, too. So I kinda figured out what kind of people I'm working with. From there, I knew these folks aren't the ones who opened themselves up easily unless they are really in a pinch.
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- Dec 11, 2021
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It's a pity. The support of community enthusiasts always helps the project develop.
I think there are only two possible explanations for the lack of response. KoD developers may simply not understand the value of working with an audience (which I personally doubt, given that they use Patreon).
Or the creators of kingdom of deception are no longer interested in developing their own game and the logical conclusion of the story. Considering this project simply as a long-term source of profit. No passion or interest in the game itself.
- Aug 7, 2016
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i agree on you on the latter part but i do think that having the community dictate the progression of the story tends to ruin it and from alot of games that allow the community to affect major plot direction of the story it tends to go either 2 ways, one it gets soo diluted to please a mass audience that it gets boring (i do think that KoD is one of the games that is heading this way) or 2 that it develops major feature creep like promising way too much and not progressing the main plot to fullfill said promises (which i think KoD also suffers from this)It's a pity. The support of community enthusiasts always helps the project develop.
I think there are only two possible explanations for the lack of response. KoD developers may simply not understand the value of working with an audience (which I personally doubt, given that they use Patreon).
Or the creators of kingdom of deception are no longer interested in developing their own game and the logical conclusion of the story. Considering this project simply as a long-term source of profit. No passion or interest in the game itself.
- Dec 11, 2021
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I didn't say anything about how community should dictate the progression of the story.
The point is that it would be nice if developers paid attention to enthusiasts who want to help them make the game better. Especially when everyone sees the obvious drop in the level of the story script, the lack of new ideas and game mechanics.
- Aug 7, 2016
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people helping is still the same thing more less as its them influencing it in one way or the other though and there are better solutions to it like setting actual viable goals and fulfilling those goals in a feasible schedule thats actually why i agree with the assessment that the devs feel like they don't care anymore and that this is only a cash grab for them nowI didn't say anything about how community should dictate the progression of the story.
The point is that it would be nice if developers paid attention to enthusiasts who want to help them make the game better. Especially when everyone sees the obvious drop in the level of the story script, the lack of new ideas and game mechanics.
No, i think you missed the most likely case: management issues.It's a pity. The support of community enthusiasts always helps the project develop.
I think there are only two possible explanations for the lack of response. KoD developers may simply not understand the value of working with an audience (which I personally doubt, given that they use Patreon).
Or the creators of kingdom of deception are no longer interested in developing their own game and the logical conclusion of the story. Considering this project simply as a long-term source of profit. No passion or interest in the game itself.
Namely the fact that Hreinn basically has no management to speak of. I won't go into the list of reasons, but as it stands without any proper management or inner structure, adding more people to the project could make things slower.
To avoid misunderstanding: i'm sure that if Hreinn could accept community help, then the game would be overall better and maybe the updates faster, but in order to do so, first they would have to make internal improvements first and between an artist, a writer and a programmer it is absolutely possible that none of them are good at these kinds of things.
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Lynn's face is completely different than before. Props for Nomo for going back to where their art started.
Thanks for sharing, by the way.
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Thanks for sharing! To clarify this is bonus content and not ingame art.
- Dec 11, 2021
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I think this is quite obvious.
With the current rate of updates, it doesn't look like we'll get to the war line with Lundar any time soon. If we get there at all ...
- Aug 3, 2017
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Why?? This is honestly quite shocking to hear. I mean, props for you to support something, but this one? There are so many more deserving teams and underappreciated solo devs out there that could benefit more of your support and be thankful and appreciative of it while also posting progress reports and delivering content as quickly as they can -- unlike Hreinn Games. I gotta believe that you know that's true.
Look, I'm not trying to denigrate your choice here; I respect you as a fellow Zoner. I myself have supported them -- in the past; not now however. The way they are now -- how they conduct themselves and the "progress" they make on KoD -- simply doesn't justify them getting anyone's financial support until they shape up. I'm about given up on them, to be honest. They haven't earned the rights to anyone's hard-earned money, in my opinion. They have done a fine job of poisoning the well on the other hand, and they need to work on clearing that mess up first.
I mean, wow, you've been supporting them since 2017? Jesus Christ, I feel like I need to give you some kind of achievement, or somethin'. ^^" I don't know, I guess I'll pray to the gaming gawds to bless you for your undying support of a game that's been through development hell... Don't you ever feel like you're just being milked at times though? *Sighs* I HOPE YOU WIN THE LOTTERY AND HAVE NOTHING BUT HAPPY DAYS AHEAD OF YOU!!! ;]
*Just point of fact, I went with the assumption that you've been supporting them financially all this time. If that's not the case, then... I guess this post is kinda moot, lol. ^^'
- Nov 4, 2019
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All valid points.
I initially started pledging because the game started out strong and I was enthusiastic after playing Noxian Nights. Over time I made some great friends in their Discord server. As things started going downhill I continued supporting them financially hoping the current writer would shape up and things would improve. But over time I eventually reduced my $15/month pledge and early this spring I finally dropped down to a dollar. At this point I just stick around to watch the dumpster fire and interact with friends in their Discord.
- Dec 11, 2021
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Unfortunately, Kingdom of Deception is quite unique. I mean western style of drawing (I hate anime), wild raсeplay with orcs, strong and interesting heroine (at least she was before the last update), as well as a good storyline and game mechanics (they were also in this game earlier).
Kingdom of Deception was my favorite game. Before it became a routine for developers who didn't care about it...
- Nov 16, 2017
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Yeah, they missed an opportunity to show us some Sabia x Lynn, let's hope we live long enough to see the story progress to that pointWith the current rate of updates, it doesn't look like we'll get to the war line with Lundar any time soon. If we get there at all ...
- Jul 28, 2017
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Fuck, I've waited for so long already to see Lynn fucked and humiliated, literally years.
Finally make it happen at least once before the abandonment, come on.
A fucking shame but better than nothing.
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Not sure why but I can't advance my story past the second Kira quests where you talk to Tijiana and give her back her horse, the waypoint is pointing at the bandit camp but there's nothing left to do there. I've looked over the walkthrough over and over again and I cant advance to the prison quest and the second part of Ohnshakers ritual. Can someone please help. The only thing i can really interact with is the tentacle monster at Kia's but it says "Went the same as last time, you should try again later.:"
- Nov 4, 2019
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You need to bullshit around for several days until the next event triggers somewhere.
Been trying everything and I mean everything. Avions first quest is done, the Roland quest is done, and so is the first tentacle quest as the walkthrough says is required and should start me off on the next section when these are all done. Should I just spam rest or something? I've done all the various scenes too like the bar drinking etc. Could it be a bug? Did i select a wrong choice somewhere?