VN Ren'Py Abandoned Kingdom of Deception [v0.14.2.2] [Hreinn Games]

[Deleted member 914647]

A part of me agrees with you, but another part wants to take on the bloomer mentality rather than the doomer one. My one biggest naive hope for this game is that at least Nomo got himself a good drawing tablet last month, but then again it might have just been for his day job, if being an artist is in fact his "professional" one.

On the subject of day jobs, it's fairly certain all of them have at least one other job, or at least they are freelancers, because there's no way in hell you can live off of $1000 alone (Nomo is from Eastern Europe where you could potentially live off of it, but Nds is from the US somewhere and Monsinne fuck knows). So that *might* give them an excuse for their slow development speed, if only they actually communicated at least bi-weekly if not weekly on the status of the update. Because from what other people have mentioned throughout the entire thread, they barely communicate on Discord either.

Now I myself am only an aspiring armchair dev, so I can only speculate on which dev is actually the bottleneck. Nomo's got years of drawing experience under his belt, so that can't be it. From the very few times I've managed to catch his streams, he drew at *semi* decent speed (compared to other artists who I randomly watched stream, but I can't really blame him because I really like his art when it's not rushed like those abysmal scenes from last time) but if he worked on the art at least every other day, that wouldn't be a problem I'd imagine. It's a Ren'Py visual novel, so how difficult can it actually be to code in the text from the writer and art from the artist, especially after having months of time to learn to code in Ren'Py even if you haven't done it before. The only excuse for him would be that the game does indeed have multiple paths, but even then I don't see how it can take multiple months to code in an overall 1-hour or less game time per update. So I can only speculate that it's the writer, because Sierra's pumping out updates to her main game like people in impoverished countries are pumping out children, not to mention her side projects over the years while also working on Noxian Nights and then later KoD. And it sucks, because I personally like the writing of the new writer.

I didn't expect to write this much but damn, it feels like most good WEGs are cursed to either be abandoned or milked like this and it makes me sad. I just want to have a few good cooms every month, but I'm at the mercy of a handful WEG devs who are more into findom than drawing or rendering tits.

You are talking about creative work like it was just a simple opening an onlyfans account. Not everyone is creative and very few can make quality content. Speed is irrelevant. Some can work fast and produce some shitty content nobody cares about. What they produce is far the best out there in the world and has huge potential. Their biggest problem is their lack of consistency. Looked like they started to give more updates about the progress in August and September, but then stopped, yet again. I hope they are silent because the next update will be an actual update.

 

[Jinsoyun]

Well, in one of their recent post they said that this update will have a lot of text. Plus 2-3 patches ago they said that after 2-3 H-oriented updates they would focus on the story a bit more again, so that one seems to fit. And if this bigger quest is indeed story based, then they have to write variations of it... Combining an update like this with the pandemic, personal tragedies and of course the delayed patching of the last one can be time consuming. I do think that their normal speed is slow already, but it seems like this time the worst case scenario of everything coincided.

 

[shinra...]

Did you try sleeping? Some of the events get triggered when you sleep.
Minotaur quest is not the end of content.

tried alllooottt of sleeping. Nothing changed.

 

[Hourglass]

tried alllooottt of sleeping. Nothing changed.

Okay it seems like you reached the end of v0.9. There is a special introduction to v0.10.
To get it you need to have completed:
-Avion quest
-Rommel quest
-meet Amelia

 

[Rhododendron]

Well, in one of their recent post they said that this update will have a lot of text. Plus 2-3 patches ago they said that after 2-3 H-oriented updates they would focus on the story a bit more again, so that one seems to fit. And if this bigger quest is indeed story based, then they have to write variations of it... Combining an update like this with the pandemic, personal tragedies and of course the delayed patching of the last one can be time consuming. I do think that their normal speed is slow already, but it seems like this time the worst case scenario of everything coincided.

I believe in them, I really do because this game is unique in lots of ways and I want this game to be good, but unfortunately it looks less and less likely that it will ever be finished. I mean it has been over 3 fucking years and content is stagnating more and more.

 

[Back]

It has been over 3 fucking years.

KoD has been in development for over four years actually (at least); though, v0.1.0 was released in 2017. Like you and many others, we all want the game to "turn out good", but the team's rather severe lack of communication and their apparent biannual release schedule that they've settled into really hampers my faith in them, to be honest.

 

[OldManJones21]

They put up a new update post today. I just couldn't tell you what it says since I'm not currently a patreon.

 

[BloatingRanger]

They put up a new update post today. I just couldn't tell you what it says since I'm not currently a patreon.

inb4 they'll "try to release the game this month" giving people hope, but it gets delayed until the end of next month at the earliest.

 

[Cormac]

They put up a new update post today. I just couldn't tell you what it says since I'm not currently a patreon.

If the post has some art, so we want the art, xD

 

[Epifan]

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Hey guys, end of month update to let you know where we're at.
My (Monsinne) mum fell over and broke her hip early September, had surgery, and isn't allowed to walk at the moment, so I've had a bit less time to work than usual having to take care of her.
That being said, we are still working and we've finished design/sprite for one of the new characters coming in the next patch - Jasmine. A dangerous woman that Sabia has history with. Some of her backstory and character will be explored in 0.11 and further on as well.
We're also working on the last quest for 0.11 - a quest involving Avion and Kira. We'll give you a bit more info about that when it's closer to being done.
Hope you guys are as excited to meet Jasmine as we were creating her. We'll keep you posted. Thanks for the support, and stay safe.

 

[psycohunter96]

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Hey guys, end of month update to let you know where we're at.
My (Monsinne) mum fell over and broke her hip early September, had surgery, and isn't allowed to walk at the moment, so I've had a bit less time to work than usual having to take care of her.
That being said, we are still working and we've finished design/sprite for one of the new characters coming in the next patch - Jasmine. A dangerous woman that Sabia has history with. Some of her backstory and character will be explored in 0.11 and further on as well.
We're also working on the last quest for 0.11 - a quest involving Avion and Kira. We'll give you a bit more info about that when it's closer to being done.
Hope you guys are as excited to meet Jasmine as we were creating her. We'll keep you posted. Thanks for the support, and stay safe.

thanks for the info and the pic dude you are great!I find it insane that its been 7 months since last update and they dont even act apologetic about nor that noone questions that...

 

[Dante477]

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Hey guys, end of month update to let you know where we're at.
My (Monsinne) mum fell over and broke her hip early September, had surgery, and isn't allowed to walk at the moment, so I've had a bit less time to work than usual having to take care of her.
That being said, we are still working and we've finished design/sprite for one of the new characters coming in the next patch - Jasmine. A dangerous woman that Sabia has history with. Some of her backstory and character will be explored in 0.11 and further on as well.
We're also working on the last quest for 0.11 - a quest involving Avion and Kira. We'll give you a bit more info about that when it's closer to being done.
Hope you guys are as excited to meet Jasmine as we were creating her. We'll keep you posted. Thanks for the support, and stay safe.

Ofcourse, I wish his mom to get well soon, but to be honest, with all the delays and excuses, it's just so hard to get excited for the game anymore. I just hope the new update is worth the wait. ohh yeah, the new character looks hot btw.

 

[sam1545654]

...Another new character!... Wait. Another one?.... Another new character who will be in the next 2 updates, then not in the following update then have a bit part in the update after that, after which 3 more updates later (so in the next 7-10 years) will make a cameo appearance and then be completely disregarded from that point forward. Right On!

Stay tuned for the next update. Word on the street is we will be getting around 14 new locations that will serve no purpose and never see the light of day in game!!!

And theres people in this place saying they arent moving the plot/story along. For Shame.

 

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Hey guys, end of month update to let you know where we're at.
My (Monsinne) mum fell over and broke her hip early September, had surgery, and isn't allowed to walk at the moment, so I've had a bit less time to work than usual having to take care of her.
That being said, we are still working and we've finished design/sprite for one of the new characters coming in the next patch - Jasmine. A dangerous woman that Sabia has history with. Some of her backstory and character will be explored in 0.11 and further on as well.
We're also working on the last quest for 0.11 - a quest involving Avion and Kira. We'll give you a bit more info about that when it's closer to being done.
Hope you guys are as excited to meet Jasmine as we were creating her. We'll keep you posted. Thanks for the support, and stay safe.

 

[Sevatar88]

...Another new character!... Wait. Another one?.... Another new character who will be in the next 2 updates, then not in the following update then have a bit part in the update after that, after which 3 more updates later (so in the next 7-10 years) will make a cameo appearance and then be completely disregarded from that point forward. Right On!

Stay tuned for the next update. Word on the street is we will be getting around 14 new locations that will serve no purpose and never see the light of day in game!!!

And theres people in this place saying they arent moving the plot/story along. For Shame.

This. 100% this. I wish they would just focus on the characters and assets they have rather then bother with this constant feature/new character creep.

 

[BloatingRanger]

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Hey guys, end of month update to let you know where we're at.
My (Monsinne) mum fell over and broke her hip early September, had surgery, and isn't allowed to walk at the moment, so I've had a bit less time to work than usual having to take care of her.
That being said, we are still working and we've finished design/sprite for one of the new characters coming in the next patch - Jasmine. A dangerous woman that Sabia has history with. Some of her backstory and character will be explored in 0.11 and further on as well.
We're also working on the last quest for 0.11 - a quest involving Avion and Kira. We'll give you a bit more info about that when it's closer to being done.
Hope you guys are as excited to meet Jasmine as we were creating her. We'll keep you posted. Thanks for the support, and stay safe.

Hold the phone, did they forget to post this update at the end of September? I remember catching a stream either mid or late last month where Nomo finished the character (then again maybe not all the expression variations), which is his latest stream.
That said though, sucks for him and his mother if it's true, and bless their hearts for giving Avion some more love. Now I'm definitely positive about writer's block being the bottleneck.

 

[Hanten]

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Hey guys, end of month update to let you know where we're at.
My (Monsinne) mum fell over and broke her hip early September, had surgery, and isn't allowed to walk at the moment, so I've had a bit less time to work than usual having to take care of her.
That being said, we are still working and we've finished design/sprite for one of the new characters coming in the next patch - Jasmine. A dangerous woman that Sabia has history with. Some of her backstory and character will be explored in 0.11 and further on as well.
We're also working on the last quest for 0.11 - a quest involving Avion and Kira. We'll give you a bit more info about that when it's closer to being done.
Hope you guys are as excited to meet Jasmine as we were creating her. We'll keep you posted. Thanks for the support, and stay safe.

I actually think there is a reverse correlation between the delays and family issues cropping up. It's not that mysteriously convenient injuries are causing development delays, but rather these guys are so slow at releasing updates that the odds of something bad happening to one of them or their family members increases exponentially.

 

[Xill]

You know, with the amount of female SIDE characters in this game you'd think this would be a male protagonist game with a harem.

Why is it so hard to focus on just Sabia?

 

[Shakira]

You know, with the amount of female SIDE characters in this game you'd think this would be a male protagonist game with a harem.

Why is it so hard to focus on just Sabia?

More yuri never hurts

 

[Viressa]

Am I the only one who saw the Jasmine art and thought at first "Huh, weird new outfit for Sabia, why's her skin and hair changed color?"