Ren'Py Kingmaker [v0.17] [Kingmaker]

[billyjoebobmartin]

I dunno. Some people out there really don't have those connections for one reason or another today. But I guess as a compounding factor I see it through the lens of how famous people or those with power suddenly are surrounded by people that are either intimidated or just want something from them. Even Hamlet lost his friends like that.

And if the adult content is what was in your mind, I would answer that right now I'm leaning towards a male friend with a sister or something like that.

oh power intimidation & fascination just by existence eh? that's an interesting one. it's true scummy people will be the ones drawn to those with power because they themselves desire that power. but that brings it's own contradiction to the marginalized aspect of MC living in his bother and father's shadows.

side plot idea, one of MC's parents (possibly mother?) dared to contact a noble house for a bodyguard, escort, and servant position for MC close to his own age. the friend themselves are have grown to adopt MC's values above those of their own family. the family however gets a bit greedy after news of the king and crown prince's deaths and sends the friend back to MC with a mission to gain favoritism. and the friend is now torn between his MC like minded values, his duty to his family, with the determining factor being how the players decide MC's morality via long term game play. (maybe a fixed event or 2 that happens at a specific week mid/late game)

tbh sounds good on the friend's gender. we need at least one good bro character for our MC to shoot the shit with. even more so if the friend gets enamored with MC's character and/or royal bearing and wants a blood tie with him via their sibling. or just the simple 'your the only guy i could really trust to never hurt her' type logic. lol

and you know what speaking of character ideas, how's about recruiting a stoic advisor different from roddrick? or maybe a prime minister corrupt old man who needs replacing with a younger patriot? tbh i'm partial to the analytic advisor who'd opt for a minister role to help MC despite being calculative has some empathy and heart they quash for accomplishing the 'greater good'.

 

[harem.king]

If we conquer more territory we should probably get a specialized GUI for territory upgrades. Currently you have to click on each territory to check the current levels and start upgrading that territory.
Having a list of all territories and their current road level / infrastracture / defenses / etc would be pretty nice.

Also lots of interesting / fun potential interactions with conquest of certain territories. (as each territory has their own baron. which introduces more characters to your court).

 

[KingmakerVN]

oh power intimidation & fascination just by existence eh? that's an interesting one. it's true scummy people will be the ones drawn to those with power because they themselves desire that power. but that brings it's own contradiction to the marginalized aspect of MC living in his bother and father's shadows.

side plot idea, one of MC's parents (possibly mother?) dared to contact a noble house for a bodyguard, escort, and servant position for MC close to his own age. the friend themselves are have grown to adopt MC's values above those of their own family. the family however gets a bit greedy after news of the king and crown prince's deaths and sends the friend back to MC with a mission to gain favoritism. and the friend is now torn between his MC like minded values, his duty to his family, with the determining factor being how the players decide MC's morality via long term game play. (maybe a fixed event or 2 that happens at a specific week mid/late game)

tbh sounds good on the friend's gender. we need at least one good bro character for our MC to shoot the shit with. even more so if the friend gets enamored with MC's character and/or royal bearing and wants a blood tie with him via their sibling. or just the simple 'your the only guy i could really trust to never hurt her' type logic. lol

and you know what speaking of character ideas, how's about recruiting a stoic advisor different from roddrick? or maybe a prime minister corrupt old man who needs replacing with a younger patriot? tbh i'm partial to the analytic advisor who'd opt for a minister role to help MC despite being calculative has some empathy and heart they quash for accomplishing the 'greater good'.

I don't see it that way. Because the protagonist is not in a position of power or influence, nor in one to get either anytime soon, if at all. Especially given how young he would be before the game. So I don't see people flocking to him to gain influence. However, he would still be above in station regarding everyone around him in a merely technical way.

I do like those story beats though. It's a very good idea. But I think it would be more of a reunion after the beginning of the game, and the friend's family would probably be the one to push for it.

Not that long ago I started drawing concept art for multiple characters, especially for merchants, clergymen and noble families outside the realm.

I dunno about adding a character that has to quash their heart for the greater good cause that is basically the path I want for the player haha.

 

[KingmakerVN]

If we conquer more territory we should probably get a specialized GUI for territory upgrades. Currently you have to click on each territory to check the current levels and start upgrading that territory.
Having a list of all territories and their current road level / infrastracture / defenses / etc would be pretty nice.

Also lots of interesting / fun potential interactions with conquest of certain territories. (as each territory has their own baron. which introduces more characters to your court).

Yeah, I can see that as a good quality of life update. It is a good idea.

Haha yeah. One of the reasons I wanted to add a barebones conquest mechanic is because I wanted to explore other parts of the map that are not the capital.

 

[billyjoebobmartin]

Haha yeah. One of the reasons I wanted to add a barebones conquest mechanic is because I wanted to explore other parts of the map that are not the capital.

hmm, what happens when you occupy or completely conquer someone else's castle and/or all their territory? would we appoint one of MC's kids who's not the crown prince/princess to manage them? would we choose and grant higher peerage to a noble? would the other castle become a 'holiday home' where we could just choose to immigrate to with the entire court, family, and lovers in tow? if the last one who's managing the royal capital castle then while we're away?

 

[KingmakerVN]

hmm, what happens when you occupy or completely conquer someone else's castle and/or all their territory? would we appoint one of MC's kids who's not the crown prince/princess to manage them? would we choose and grant higher peerage to a noble? would the other castle become a 'holiday home' where we could just choose to immigrate to with the entire court, family, and lovers in tow? if the last one who's managing the royal capital castle then while we're away?

Haha I dunno if any of the kids would be old enough to manage it. It would probably be a question of keeping the old guard, a local character, a noble already sworn to you, or even leave it to the clergy or the growing bourgeoise. I guess it just depends on the story of that particular region.


Setting up a new capital sounds like a lot of work if I'm honest haha.

 

[Eillahn]

Hi, some quick remarks/questions regarding war and invading/capturing other territories.
I attacked the Fae kingdom, part of returning it to my queen.
I managed to capture 1 of the 2 territories I invaded (the closer to my kingdom) when winning the war, but, I don't know how, when, why... Except that the "war bar" was full in my advantage.
I mean, the war ended without me knowing. I just saw that this one territory became the color of my kingdom, and I was able to build infrastructures in it. The other one kept the light blue color of an invaded territory but returned to its former owner...
Later I attacked again the Fae (to finish my conquest) but every turn the war ended, and I have never been able to actually capture any other territory.
Have I missed something or is it the fact that war is still a WIP?

Among the remarks regarding war (which is WIP I understand)
When I attacked again the Fae, the "war bar" was still full at my advantage.
I am able to attack the enemy army wherever it is. The only difference is that, when it's in the same territory than me I am not able to "secure" it.
And I encountered several bug, that I will copy there if I encounter them again (events, calculus...)

 

[KingmakerVN]

Hello, just came back this to amazing game.
Wasnt there a queen (your mother) and your 2 sisters?
Turned on "royal" but your mother is called "your queen" and not holding your father's last name
and why are sisters called "your ladies"?
Are my dreams for a Royal Family Tree Circle ruined?

Right click their portrait on the court menu and you can change those titles to whatever you want.

 

[KingmakerVN]

Hi, some quick remarks/questions regarding war and invading/capturing other territories.
I attacked the Fae kingdom, part of returning it to my queen.
I managed to capture 1 of the 2 territories I invaded (the closer to my kingdom) when winning the war, but, I don't know how, when, why... Except that the "war bar" was full in my advantage.
I mean, the war ended without me knowing. I just saw that this one territory became the color of my kingdom, and I was able to build infrastructures in it. The other one kept the light blue color of an invaded territory but returned to its former owner...
Later I attacked again the Fae (to finish my conquest) but every turn the war ended, and I have never been able to actually capture any other territory.
Have I missed something or is it the fact that war is still a WIP?

Among the remarks regarding war (which is WIP I understand)
When I attacked again the Fae, the "war bar" was still full at my advantage.
I am able to attack the enemy army wherever it is. The only difference is that, when it's in the same territory than me I am not able to "secure" it.
And I encountered several bug, that I will copy there if I encounter them again (events, calculus...)

So the war only lasted one turn? And did you have the army on AI mode or were you controlling it?

You not being able to secure a territory while their army is present was a conscious decision to allow them the chance to defend it.

I would appreciate that, thank you.

 

[harem.king]

Haha yeah. One of the reasons I wanted to add a barebones conquest mechanic is because I wanted to explore other parts of the map that are not the capital.

I am getting a senguku rance vibe here

 

[Deleted member 6835171]

How to unlock the barbarian girl and the elf?

And can i go to war? I called the banners but wr are too slow now is it a game mechanic or am i glitched

 

[KingmakerVN]

I am getting a senguku rance vibe here

Never heard of that haha

 

[KingmakerVN]

How to unlock the barbarian girl and the elf?

And can i go to war? I called the banners but wr are too slow now is it a game mechanic or am i glitched

If you are playing on easy mode you might have to go to itch.io and download 16.1

How slow and where are you going? That mechanic is fairly new and I'm still balancing it. But yes, you can go to war, although the mechanic is in an early stage.

 

[Deleted member 6835171]

If you are playing on easy mode you might have to go to itch.io and download 16.1

How slow and where are you going? That mechanic is fairly new and I'm still balancing it. But yes, you can go to war, although the mechanic is in an early stage.

Okay will do thanks

I called the banners (idk how hut there speed difference if i have them or not), i have called them after upgrading all of my provinces to maximum and have chosen the edicts i want , they join me in a week or two but it takes 7-10 weeks to move from one province to another


A plus Question do i need to join the army for it events?( I already do)

 

[KingmakerVN]

Okay will do thanks

I called the banners (idk how hut there speed difference if i have them or not), i have called them after upgrading all of my provinces to maximum and have chosen the edicts i want , they join me in a week or two but it takes 7-10 weeks to move from one province to another


A plus Question do i need to join the army for it events?( I already do)

How many AP does your army get a week?

You only need to join for the Valkrii.

 

[Deleted member 6835171]

How many AP does your army get a week?

You only need to join for the Valkrii.

Just deleted the older version and downloaded the one from itch , i will see if i get the same thing (will keep an eye on ap since i don't remember the previous one)


Another quick question , will accepting the witch deal will have any bad outcome out of it? I know that most choices are for the mc to choose if they want this route or not

 

[billyjoebobmartin]

KingmakerVN any estimate for 0.17 release?

KingmakerVN

 

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thanks man

 

[KingmakerVN]

KingmakerVN

Your guess is as good as mine. Maybe January or February if I keep the same pace.

 

[Eillahn]

So the war only lasted one turn? And did you have the army on AI mode or were you controlling it?

I am controlling it.

You not being able to secure a territory while their army is present was a conscious decision to allow them the chance to defend it.

That made/makes sense.
I wasn't highlighting this as a bug, just as the only difference between attacking an enemy army wherever it is. If the enemy army is not in the territory you are in, you can attack it or secure the territory if it is hold by the enemy. If the enemy army is in the territory you are in, you can attack it but you cannot secure the territory.

I would appreciate that, thank you.

I'll try, you're welcome