baka

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the tip board inside the recollection gives u an idea what each character will have.
we will see when season 1 is done if we create something to unlock everything.
 

Xarfaks

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Can you try recreating this bug out of curiosity?
Just run another full screen app while you leave the game running should kill the in game music player.

Just wondering if this bug is repeatable.
 

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Can you try recreating this bug out of curiosity?
Just run another full screen app while you leave the game running should kill the in game music player.

Just wondering if this bug is repeatable.
It's happened to me usually in the middle of the song and when I'm writing new content. Is yours also cutting out in the middle or is it the song changing that makes the music player crash?
 

Xarfaks

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In the middle.
As I said whenever I either run another app(well actually something with an .exe) or when I start stop videos or songs in my browsers. Some messenger apps also kill it again those with an exe. Like skype or discord.(when I get a call not message)

My guess would be either memory access messes with it or when something sends a low lever request like microphone or camera or directx or something.

I run sound through HDMI over my nvidia GPU using nvidia drivers.

PS.
This thing makes me think back to my uni. programming projects. I had a course mate with whom we often teamed up for bigger project who would always use anal or quadanal or other porn terms as variables in his code and always use porn for test data and text.... Nothing makes your lecturer go WTF!?!? Like reading some Brazers anal video description where he expected lorem ipsum.
A lot of the text in this game has the same level of WTF randomness.
 
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yeah. another user did have this issue. so far I have not figure out a way to "detect" it.
I have asked in a "programming" forum, but the response is the same: "it should detect".
if I can detect that the sound is off, I can just "disable" the sound, and it will not crash.
I can not make it myself since no matter what I do, the initialization "detects".
what I need is someone with this error (like u) that will try multiple times
So after many attemps the only way for the game to start with no errors occuring is to play with my sound output as anything besides headphones. Ive also tried booting it up playing a little then swithcing to headphones later and the error does eventualy pop up. I dont mind playing the game with no sound. ( My monitor doesnt have speakers). Ill keep messing around with it either after or durring my playthrough to see if i can find a work arround.
 
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Writing down some experiences as a brand new player. Not a full review, not intended to be full of complaints either. Be aware that I've put around a week's worth of effort of a few hours per day and am currently dealing with the Elves story-wise. Spoiler tags to not clutter up the thread.

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- let me help a bit: some shop have sections. as u see here I can pick different clothes.
- to get the "extra" drop rate u need to initialize the mission. is not enough u know u need to collect something u also need to make sure u get that "button" that says: give me X something. doing so, that "something" will have additional drop chance.
- the problem with the game- and story- is that the writer decided to go that route. I told him numerous times but futile. that is why the "5-adventurer jobs" are not used, instead a special-job (darkness) was introduced and with that ISSUES. as u already experienced. sure, later in the game it get fixed with the job-books, but early u are restricted with beginner/common equips.
- the library and bestiary are your friend, its a good way to check items u want and what monster drop.
- a lot of "items" that are hard to find u can buy from NPC. check library, if u click on a item, it will say "how to get it", if from drop, mission, shop, gacha etc.
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Writing down some experiences as a brand new player. Not a full review, not intended to be full of complaints either. Be aware that I've put around a week's worth of effort of a few hours per day and am currently dealing with the Elves story-wise. Spoiler tags to not clutter up the thread.

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Thank you for the feedback! And I do actually plan to introduce some special stuff once Ming opens her shop in both Lovers and Corruption Routes. That should help get a bit more variation for armor/weapons.

It is something I've kept in mind which is why Rien is chock full of rewards for a lot of gear you can actively use. More will come for sure.
 

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- let me help a bit: some shop have sections. as u see here I can pick different clothes.
- to get the "extra" drop rate u need to initialize the mission. is not enough u know u need to collect something u also need to make sure u get that "button" that says: give me X something. doing so, that "something" will have additional drop chance.
- the problem with the game- and story- is that the writer decided to go that route. I told him numerous times but futile. that is why the "5-adventurer jobs" are not used, instead a special-job (darkness) was introduced and with that ISSUES. as u already experienced. sure, later in the game it get fixed with the job-books, but early u are restricted with beginner/common equips.
- the library and bestiary are your friend, its a good way to check items u want and what monster drop.
- a lot of "items" that are hard to find u can buy from NPC. check library, if u click on a item, it will say "how to get it", if from drop, mission, shop, gacha etc.
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For the love of f....

Okay. Yeah so disregard what I said about armor not being available, but can you please make the buttons any color other than grey? Not only does it blend in perfectly with the background, it looks exactly like the buttons that in consumable shops regulate the amount. The amount thing was explained in the shop tutorial and it never occurred to me that it would lead to different tabs in equipment shops (if this was mentioned too then I somehow missed it and I'm sorry for being stupid). I open up the shop, see hats and empty slots that could have other stuff and conclude that it has nothing else. I don't need 10 hats so I won't even bother mousing over to see what the buttons do. At least if they were blue or red I'd check out of curiosity.

In fact, I went back to Lith harbor to check something. Natasha has 1 tab and ALL her items in it, from pants to shirts. It is only in Henesys and above that shops grow more tabs for individual gear types, which goes contrary to what has been established previously. Hope you see where my confusion comes from.

Thank you for the feedback! And I do actually plan to introduce some special stuff once Ming opens her shop in both Lovers and Corruption Routes. That should help get a bit more variation for armor/weapons.

It is something I've kept in mind which is why Rien is chock full of rewards for a lot of gear you can actively use. More will come for sure.
Eh, you're good. We established I'm just stupid. That was genuinely like 75% of my gripes with the game. All in all I can say like 20 good things and 1 iffy one, which is a pretty incredible for any game. I can feel how passionate you guys are and it's a joy to see such a long running game not just surviving, but getting actively updated with no signs of slowing down. Mad respect to the team!
 
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it all depends on the amount of items.
those early shops offer common-items, and not that many, it would be odd to have 2-4 items each category so I have everything in one page.
all "job" towns have that kind of shop. all 5 job-towns offer armor-shop with multi-tabs.
while consumable (since u can buy in bulk) offer amount tabs.
remember that u can split bulk, both in inventory but also in the shop using right mouse button.
and dont forget transfer-item key, if u want to speed things up when u move around items.

not sure if HaseoOfDeath mention this, could be useful information that u can get the first shop (henesys) that sells in tabs.
or we add it even earlier by ms. record, she can explain shops. I let Haseo decide that.
 
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Here you are. And yeah it should fix it
When I click on the link it takes me to another screen that's telling me that something called VirusTotal has detected 5 potential risks (and it says "[VIRUS]" in the name of the attachment). Since you're one of the guys that makes the game I assume it's a false-positive but I'm still hesitant. Is there any way you could fix it?
 

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not possible at the moment. its a work in progress and some AV don't like native-code compiled executable.
u need to make your own conclusions. also the usual AV that complains are those. better AV don't flag it. never do.
its like each time I update the game its always the same 3-7.
 
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we updated the .exe, check the thread and download it.
you said check the thread but thats way to vague to help someone find it, this thread is over 100 pages long its gonna take forever to find it

after writing this i now see its posted right above this but it should still be put on the front page or something
 
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