alex2011

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meh dlc looks repeatitive like previous titles. If only illusion put a little more effort into systems and come up with new ideas, rather than just milking voice packs and costumes
the dlc are always welcome dlc as the mod 1 thing they do, improve the playability.

I don't know anything about the topics, but some time ago I read about a guy who did it with cheat tools.
Here's the thing, customization is the popular part for their actual customers in Japan, so they geared the game toward a customization focus like the last three. Until the popularity focus shifts to actual gameplay, there won't be a change. This is why we haven't seen a game like Artificial Academy 2 since, well, Artificial Academy 2. The people actually buying the game want more customization and that comes at the cost of gameplay.
 

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Are there any actual meaningful CharaStudio changes to warrant getting this if you're only using the studio? Will it become the new normal to use, or backported to Koikatsu? I'm always confused on that.
 

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Here's the thing, customization is the popular part for their actual customers in Japan, so they geared the game toward a customization focus like the last three. Until the popularity focus shifts to actual gameplay, there won't be a change. This is why we haven't seen a game like Artificial Academy 2 since, well, Artificial Academy 2. The people actually buying the game want more customization and that comes at the cost of gameplay.
AA2 sucks, if you make a move on one they interrupt you and brand you as a cheater and from that moment all the progress made are reset. a porn game where you can not fuck who you want, where you want and when you want is worth 0. and then I'm not interested in fucking the girlfriends of others.
Then the game has horrible graphics, even if it has only 10 years seems to play an old Street Fighter, and the animations are always those 3, or she comes in that position, you come in that position, come together in that position, if you come out you disappear from the screen and spit something on her, (for me you're just sneezing) and the map is empty you can only talk to someone.
and since it doesn't work with win10 to make it go you have to install directx_Jun2010 Microsoft Visual C++ 2015 vc_redist.x64 vc_redist.x86 NET Core 3.1 Runtime and after all this you have to go in the settings and change from Original to Voodo2 and then you always have problems with crashes and these happen because it has a shitty framework, once it had SB3Utility but it seems they forgot it on the way.
and its community is shit, since that game has many problems if you go to ask something you just fill with insults, just because they know how to install 2 things they believe they are masters.
In my opinion AA2 is a huge step backwards made by Illusion compared to all the games made
 
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alex2011

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Are there any actual meaningful CharaStudio changes to warrant getting this if you're only using the studio? Will it become the new normal to use, or backported to Koikatsu? I'm always confused on that.
I don't even know if you CAN go back, I know you can't go back game wise once you convert a card, but I'm not sure about studio. Considering there was a pretty bad crash in the last version I played, expected because of how early a build it is, I did not test that.

AA2 sucks, if you make a move on one they interrupt you and brand you as a cheater and from that moment all the progress made are reset. a porn game where you can not fuck who you want, where you want and when you want is worth 0. and then I'm not interested in fucking the girlfriends of others.
Then the game has horrible graphics, even if it has only 10 years seems to play an old Street Fighter, and the animations are always those 3, or she comes in that position, you come in that position, come together in that position, if you come out you disappear from the screen and spit something on her, (for me you're just sneezing) and the map is empty you can only talk to someone.
and since it doesn't work with win10 to make it go you have to install directx_Jun2010 Microsoft Visual C++ 2015 vc_redist.x64 vc_redist.x86 NET Core 3.1 Runtime and after all this you have to go in the settings and change from Original to Voodo2 and then you always have problems with crashes and these happen because it has a shitty framework, once it had SB3Utility but it seems they forgot it on the way.
and its community is shit, since that game has many problems if you go to ask something you just fill with insults, just because they know how to install 2 things they believe they are masters.
In my opinion AA2 is a huge step backwards made by Illusion compared to all the games made
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All I'm really saying is that, after AA2, there was a large shift in focus away from gameplay and that's why there is what we have now, less gameplay and more customization.
 

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I don't even know if you CAN go back, I know you can't go back game wise once you convert a card, but I'm not sure about studio. Considering there was a pretty bad crash in the last version I played, expected because of how early a build it is, I did not test that.


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All I'm really saying is that, after AA2, there was a large shift in focus away from gameplay and that's why there is what we have now, less gameplay and more customization.
in fact, I've always wondered what class is for, just to have a break in the balls? a casual player who does not know the game well finds himself unable to do anything, and for the graphics AA2 is 10 years old and has a very low quality, if 10 years ago you would have presented such a thing to someone he would have felt mocked. and i'd rather take my old AA2 with my old HFPatch than go crazy with new stuff. and the framework there is a reason that it is only used on AA2, and with Harem Mate Illusion it switched to Unity, In fact all games with its old graphic engine have problems so as long as Unity updates there will be no problems, and d3d9.dll is something that makes the game believe it is on Win7 than on Win10, and since Win11 is released d3d9.dll is destined to die.
 
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in fact, I've always wondered what class is for, just to have a break in the balls? a casual player who does not know the game well finds himself unable to do anything, and for the graphics AA2 is 10 years old and has a very low quality, if 10 years ago you would have presented such a thing to someone he would have felt mocked. and i'd rather take my old AA2 with my old HFPatch than go crazy with new stuff. and the framework there is a reason that it is only used on AA2, and with Harem Mate Illusion it switched to Unity, In fact all games with its old graphic engine have problems so as long as Unity updates there will be no problems, and d3d9.dll is something that makes the game believe it is on Win7 than on Win10, and since Win11 is released d3d9.dll is destined to die.
d3d9.dll is already dead, they killed it with the Win10 anniversary update, that's why Illusion switched to Unity. The old engine required a d3d9.dll that was not affected by the anniversary update, but Unity does not.

You haven't addressed the main point, the fact that Koikatsu Sunshine lacks in gameplay, compared to AA2, because of a large shift in focus from gameplay to customization after AA2. That's the whole reason I even brought up AA2, because it was the last game where gameplay was the focus, which is where your point about improving playability and where pewpewsmurf's point about putting more effort into systems come in. In order to improve playability, they need to put more focus on the gameplay and they did not with Koikatsu Sunshine. Of course, in order to put more focus on gameplay, they would need the customers they actually sell to to want more gameplay than customization.

It all adds up to one issue, the customers that are actually being catered to, Japanese players, want customization at the cost of gameplay, which is exactly what the rest of us got with Koikatsu Sunshine.
 

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d3d9.dll is already dead, they killed it with the Win10 anniversary update, that's why Illusion switched to Unity. The old engine required a d3d9.dll that was not affected by the anniversary update, but Unity does not.

You haven't addressed the main point, the fact that Koikatsu Sunshine lacks in gameplay, compared to AA2, because of a large shift in focus from gameplay to customization after AA2. That's the whole reason I even brought up AA2, because it was the last game where gameplay was the focus, which is where your point about improving playability and where pewpewsmurf's point about putting more effort into systems come in. In order to improve playability, they need to put more focus on the gameplay and they did not with Koikatsu Sunshine. Of course, in order to put more focus on gameplay, they would need the customers they actually sell to to want more gameplay than customization.

It all adds up to one issue, the customers that are actually being catered to, Japanese players, want customization at the cost of gameplay, which is exactly what the rest of us got with Koikatsu Sunshine.
sure, AA2 has more gameplay than KKS in fact AA2 more than a porn game is a simulator with porn content (and ugly) (like CM3D which is a managerial and only later were added porn content).but the fact is that me and many do not give a damn about what makes a drawing on a screen I do not disagree a good gameplay but in a porn game there are more important things, such as graphics and animations, and on this AA2 is very lacking. and then games like KKS are born
and then you have to explain how it ended like that if in my post I said only that I was curious about the new update because I have doubts
 
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For real, wasted my time downloading. Also the first girls right arm is on backwards
Seriously, I thought I was the only one who's having this weird bug. It's like Orc Massage early access glitches all over again. In the beginning, the guide girl's right arm joints are twisted in unnecessary and horrifying ways. I reinstalled the whole repack 3 but same issue still persists. Also, whenever I try to "go outside" after booking some girls my whole game crashes. Please help.
 

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Seriously, I thought I was the only one who's having this weird bug. It's like Orc Massage early access glitches all over again. In the beginning, the guide girl's right arm joints are twisted in unnecessary and horrifying ways. I reinstalled the whole repack 3 but same issue still persists. Also, whenever I try to "go outside" after booking some girls my whole game crashes. Please help.
Update: I reinstalled it 3rd times and looks like "Go Out" part works with few patience of waiting. But few of the girls still have arm joint issues, including the guide girl at the intro
 

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Update: I reinstalled it 3rd times and looks like "Go Out" part works with few patience of waiting. But few of the girls still have arm joint issues, including the guide girl at the intro
Yeah, the intro gives me problems too, luckily I don't have problems with the old saves.

EDIT: try to disable forcehighpoly, it gives me problems with the groin.
 
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sure, AA2 has more gameplay than KKS in fact AA2 more than a porn game is a simulator with porn content (and ugly) (like CM3D which is a managerial and only later were added porn content).but the fact is that me and many do not give a damn about what makes a drawing on a screen I do not disagree a good gameplay but in a porn game there are more important things, such as graphics and animations, and on this AA2 is very lacking. and then games like KKS are born
and then you have to explain how it ended like that if in my post I said only that I was curious about the new update because I have doubts
I also have doubts and they stem from the same issue, the focus on customization that Japanese customers wanted. There would be more content to both the base game and any DLC if there wasn't so much focus on customization. Don't be surprised if DLC for this game goes the AI Shoujo route, mostly clothes and other items that can be used to customize, maybe one or two personalities, but little to not gameplay improvements aside from fixing what is already in the game.
 

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I also have doubts and they stem from the same issue, the focus on customization that Japanese customers wanted. There would be more content to both the base game and any DLC if there wasn't so much focus on customization. Don't be surprised if DLC for this game goes the AI Shoujo route, mostly clothes and other items that can be used to customize, maybe one or two personalities, but little to not gameplay improvements aside from fixing what is already in the game.
the dlc puts 4 new personalities, new areas or sex spots (I never understood) (I hope a bed, their first time in a street is sad ) and appointments ( I hope also for the friends like in KK), on the custumization is 0 surely there will be clothes and accessories but the maker is already a huge thing that there is no need
 
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the dlc puts 4 new personalities, new areas or sex spots (I never understood) (I hope a bed, their first time in a street is sad ) and appointments ( I hope also for the friends like in KK), on the custumization is 0 surely there will be clothes and accessories but the maker is already a huge thing that there is no need
Agreed, there's no need to expand customization, they need to expand gameplay is what they need to do.
 

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[BR] Better Repack R3.1.png

If you have trouble starting the game, start the game once through the launcher (InitSetting.exe), this will check for errors and fix them as well before starting the game.

This is the readme for the pack, detailing the contents:​

Code:
Release R3.1
<--------------------->

no ad-maze // no upfront payment
If you paid for this, you were scammed!
If you like the game, please buy it on [B][URL="https://dlshop.illu-member.jp/products/detail.php?product_id=201"]DMM[/URL] or [URL="https://store.steampowered.com/app/1073440/"]Steam[/URL][/B] (~.~)v
If you enjoy the mods, please consider donating to the modders on patreon where possible.

This pack is made with a up2date base game as of 21.06.2019, along with the components listed in credits, all up2date as of the release date of this pack. Some extras have been included, but are either easily removable or are sorted into folders marked [OPTIONAL]. Enjoy!

To add shortcuts to your desktop of the launcher and the most important folders for the game, feel free to run '[BR] Create Desktop Icons.bat'.

If you have trouble starting the game, start the game once through the launcher (InitSetting.exe), this will check for errors and fix them as well before starting the game.

[B]IF YOU'RE MOVING FROM ANOTHER REPACK:[/B]
I don't recommend just extracting this over another repack, due to potential conflicts. Please extract this to its own folder and move over your chara, cap, studio and save folders.

[B]WANT YOUR CARD OR SCENE INCLUDED IN THE NEXT REPACK?[/B]
Feel free to DM me on discord (ScrewThisNoise#3544) with the card(s) and/or scene(s), and I'll see what I can do for the next release. (See community links for server link)

[B]What is included in the base game?[/B]
- Base release game

(*) = Optional mod
(**) = Utility

[B]Updated in this release:[/B]
[url]https://betterpaste.me/?b7eff787b0a44fbf#556aVw21AFYyo59iyvS9MQBdDTmSQbAP51yDs5nXgg3q[/url]

DISTRIBUTION LOCATIONS:
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Nyaa:
- [url]https://sukebei.nyaa.si/user/screwthisnoise[/url]

Otomi-games.com:
- [url]https://otomi-games.com/koikatu/[/url]


COMMUNITY LINKS:
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Discord Fan-Server
- [url]https://universalhentai.com[/url]

Pastebin
- [url]https://pastebin.com/SzSz1yZt[/url]
There are two download options, Full for newcomers, Update for people that already have my previous packs (So they don't have to download all of it over again). If you experience ANY problem after using the update pack, please use the full pack before reporting any problems.



Share this pack as you want, re-host it or whatever.. All credit goes to the modders actually making this possible
Feel free to tell me if you reupload the pack anywhere else! :)

I'd very much appreciate it if you would all think about supporting me on patreon, but keep in mind that I won't paywall my packs, this is just for supporting me making my packs better :)
 

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[BR] Better Repack R4.png

WARNING!
While this pack has been tested to the best of my abilities, expansions often lead to instabilities. Instability is expected.

Contains Koikatsu Sunshine Extension

If you have trouble starting the game, start the game once through the launcher (InitSetting.exe), this will check for errors and fix them as well before starting the game.

This is the readme for the pack, detailing the contents:​

Code:
Release R4
<--------------------->

no ad-maze // no upfront payment
If you paid for this, you were scammed!
If you like the game, please buy it on [B][URL="https://dlshop.illu-member.jp/products/detail.php?product_id=201"]DMM[/URL] or [URL="https://store.steampowered.com/app/1073440/"]Steam[/URL][/B] (~.~)v
If you enjoy the mods, please consider donating to the modders on patreon where possible.

This pack is made with a up2date base game as of 21.06.2019, along with the components listed in credits, all up2date as of the release date of this pack. Some extras have been included, but are either easily removable or are sorted into folders marked [OPTIONAL]. Enjoy!

To add shortcuts to your desktop of the launcher and the most important folders for the game, feel free to run '[BR] Create Desktop Icons.bat'.

If you have trouble starting the game, start the game once through the launcher (InitSetting.exe), this will check for errors and fix them as well before starting the game.

[B]IF YOU'RE MOVING FROM ANOTHER REPACK:[/B]
I don't recommend just extracting this over another repack, due to potential conflicts. Please extract this to its own folder and move over your chara, cap, studio and save folders.

[B]WANT YOUR CARD OR SCENE INCLUDED IN THE NEXT REPACK?[/B]
Feel free to DM me on discord (ScrewThisNoise#3544) with the card(s) and/or scene(s), and I'll see what I can do for the next release. (See community links for server link)

[B]What is included in the base game?[/B]
- Base release game

(*) = Optional mod
(**) = Utility

[B]Updated in this release:[/B]
[url]https://betterpaste.me/?0e375ef003d5766f#E2u1cC7TKhCxCaN3f9CXr5aSPtMxDgsAkYLdBEhUyNGV[/url]

DISTRIBUTION LOCATIONS:
These are locations where either I distribute new packs and updates, or partner-sites and services do so.
------------------>
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- [url]http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/members/screwthisnoise-181111/[/url]

Nyaa:
- [url]https://sukebei.nyaa.si/user/screwthisnoise[/url]

Otomi-games.com:
- [url]https://otomi-games.com/koikatu/[/url]


COMMUNITY LINKS:
------------------>
Discord Fan-Server
- [url]https://universalhentai.com[/url]

Pastebin
- [url]https://pastebin.com/SzSz1yZt[/url]
There are two download options, Full for newcomers, Update for people that already have my previous packs (So they don't have to download all of it over again). If you experience ANY problem after using the update pack, please use the full pack before reporting any problems.



Share this pack as you want, re-host it or whatever.. All credit goes to the modders actually making this possible
Feel free to tell me if you reupload the pack anywhere else! :)

I'd very much appreciate it if you would all think about supporting me on patreon, but keep in mind that I won't paywall my packs, this is just for supporting me making my packs better :)
 
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