Ren'Py Abandoned Lab Rats 2 [v0.51.1] [Vren]

[redzadow]

With the game going to be open source on git... eventually (since it's down rn), what are the chances someone tries to port it to a new engine? Maybe a collaborative effort would make it doable?

Quite the opposite. Sure the current skin tones look like butt, but open source Live 2D integration into Ren'Py would be a pretty big deal. The problem with Lab Rats though is that Live 2D isn't made with realistic renders in mind.

Will be nice to see the skin tones figured out for realistic renders, but I foresee many people "borrowing" the Live 2D integration for their anime waifu VNs.

 

[hyfka]

I usually ignore Attention at first. In my normal playthroughs, my first Serum is usually a "fake blue serum" or "bc breaker", With T0 production, "High Capacity Design" and two traits.
I don't hire anybody until I have the design researched, then I hire one of each: Production, Marketing, Supply and do HR myself.
Spend Energy on flirting and then go work once your energy is empty.
Don't overlook Marketing, without it your serums sell for much less.
I only branch out into 0 Attention once I have 3 pairs of supply/production.

 

[hyfka]

oh and hyfka that was with condomless vaginal no bc cumshot on Thursday night, so I began the vaginal taboo break quest Friday morning. "assuming perfect luck" she's pregnant first try

Yeah I didn't want to do pregnancy% since that requires even more luck. Sometimes she starts on bc, sometimes she doesn't. Add to that impregnation chance and it's all very inconsistent.

 

[dalzomo]

I make whatever the contracts ask for, and once they're filled I make what will help me and sell the excess - so usually the highest suggestion and energy I can fit in, with some obedience or sluttiness ones for emergencies or niche situations. 100 attention should be avoided by players who are on the ropes, but I actually provoke it intentionally. The city rep is slow to start up but once you can get her to trust you to make her coffee alone you can start dosing her and it's all downhill from there

 

[hyfka]

I broke the nudity taboo on Tuesday morning with the job interview outfit and was able to get the Suggestibility trait and one serum before the Tuesday night movie date where I did dose her with the snacks. She was at 20 sluttiness and 45 love by the end of the date but she didn't invite me to her room. So I flirted her back up to 20 sluttiness on Wednesday and did 3 of the chores, and on Thursday morning after she brought me the box and tried one, I finished the chores and checked in. Since she was at 30 sluttiness from the serum already, the check-in raised her to 40 (a bug) and when the serum wore off she was at 30. I groped her all day to edge her but keep my energy close to full, and made dinner that night to dose her with a red serum. I was able to get Jen to like incest by Thursday night, day 3

Yeah my experience was similar but I missed the dinner opportunity on thursday.
Tuesday night same result, no invite (even though I somehow didn't have the serum ready yet).

I think red serum makes the challenge pretty easy. On the other hand, the nudity taboo break on Tuesday Early Morning means you have to spend wednesday doing chores. Iirc, there are 4 chores. That puts us at Wednesday Night earliest for check-in, with no way of getting a serum in her at that point. (Is it possible to have the movie date Wednesday Night?)
After the box event it's purely a matter of getting a red serum in her and getting lucky with the trance roll. Earliest opportunity would be lunch date, leading to sex on Thursday Evening.
Finding a way to raise her obedience to 120 before that would allow to order her to take it Thursday Morning. (Hire her Tuesday Morning after outfit event and negative interactions for 3 days?)

So looking at it from a different angle, trancing her before Thursday would have to be done on Tuesday, before the -10 Sluttiness from seeing her naked kicks in. But I'm not sure if at 20 Sluttiness you can grope her enough to "take it further" while having the serum ready to dose her at dinner. Maybe if you get lucky and catch her mastrubating.

At least we figured out it's technically possible to get her pregnant in the first week of the game

 

[jan^s]

That is alot of events that need to happen in cession for it, making it not easily repeatable. I'm not sayin it won't work just saying a roll of the dice chance to get it to work.

 

[hyfka]

That is alot of events that need to happen in cession for it, making it not easily repeatable. I'm not sayin it won't work just saying a roll of the dice chance to get it to work.

Well yes, that's me theorycrafting how early you can become an "unrestricted motherfucker"
After you give Jennifer incest opinion and break the taboo the quest ist available and the time until the unlock is predetermined pretty much. On the next day she wants to talk with you, then you spend one time period searching her computer and one time period answering and then just wait.
Lily would probably be slower, since for her you need 10 serums of the same kind produced and she doesn't automatically strip for you.

For a more laid back approach you just do whatever until you feel like it, then flirt her up to 20, give her blue serum, grope->fingering until orgasm, repeat until trance, give incest opinion, give red serum, break vaginal taboo.
Or keep inviting her to fancy restaurant and breaking vaginal taboo 8 times, but that's obviously slower.

And for anyone else just flirt them to 20, give a serum, break all taboos.
Without serums you can do an extra tedious "romance only" playthrough, where you take them on dates until they agree to movie date, and raise sluttiness slowly with random events and sex actions (and business policies).

 

[dalzomo]

The job interview event doesn't fire on Tuesday specifically. That's just when I triggered it. It fires when you get her to 15 sluttiness and a certain amount of love and then talk to her, so you can control when you see her naked if you want to do that on Wed or Thu instead. I wanted to break nudity taboo before the movie date so it wouldn't be an obstacle afterwards, but there was no afterwards in the end so instead I discovered a new exploit ^_-

I grinded her love up high because when you're alone with someone it adds a bonus to sluttiness, but you could instead grind sluttiness higher than 20 through lewd texts and see if you could grope her after getting her to 25 or higher. 20 sluttiness doesn't allow enough groping to add arousal, which is what you want to achieve, even if only a little at a time

 

[nobodx]

I usually ignore Attention at first. In my normal playthroughs, my first Serum is usually a "fake blue serum" or "bc breaker", With T0 production, "High Capacity Design" and two traits.
I don't hire anybody until I have the design researched, then I hire one of each: Production, Marketing, Supply and do HR myself.
Spend Energy on flirting and then go work once your energy is empty.
Don't overlook Marketing, without it your serums sell for much less.
I only branch out into 0 Attention once I have 3 pairs of supply/production.

that was for early game... in late game, you produce tons on extremely attn-rich stuff as well - usually i have potions worth >1000 attn sitting in my storage.
in early-game, where energy, money and clarity is scarce a "no attn" potion yielding 1000+ money per day helps a lot

 

[hyfka]

that was for early game... in late game, you produce tons on extremely attn-rich stuff as well - usually i have potions worth >1000 attn sitting in my storage.
in early-game, where energy, money and clarity is scarce a "no attn" potion yielding 1000+ money per day helps a lot

In early game, you can't produce serums fast enough to hit attention cap so it doesn't matter.
And Clarity is a non-issue past Thursday as well, as having sex and finishing inside give almost 1000 clarity.
Attention only matters if you can sell more serums than the daily Attention reduction (-20 with one 2000c policy)

 

[Ranker]

Any info on progress now that its open source? Hope it's going well.

 

[bloodbus]

Any info on progress now that its open source? Hope it's going well.

Dude was held back by git being down, but now that it's up - well still nothing but I'm sure he's started

 

[sanway666]

Jesus... is there a better way to accelerate the pregnancy ?

 

[hyfka]

Jesus... is there a better way to accelerate the pregnancy ?

Yes. Very late game (Tier 3 or 4) you research a trait that advances pregnancy by 1/turn.
That combined with the one that progresses +1 per day and the normal 1/day brings you to a week of progress per day, if you keep them on the serum permanently.
If that's still too slow for you, you could probably use console commands

 

[sanway666]

Yes. Very late game (Tier 3 or 4) you research a trait that advances pregnancy by 1/turn.
That combined with the one that progresses +1 per day and the normal 1/day brings you to a week of progress per day, if you keep them on the serum permanently.
If that's still too slow for you, you could probably use console commands

Well, that's unfortunate... but thanks for the tips. Also, do you have an idea what command to use in the console ?

 

[Strec]

Jesus... is there a better way to accelerate the pregnancy ?

Yes, convince the dev to replace the fixed values in code by some variables, as for a lot of other things...

 

[Silentheart42]

room.formalName = "new name" I can't figure this command out. I want to change Lily's Bedroom to Susan's Bedroom but I keep getting errors.

 

[Urpo]

So, what is the state of the game's future? From the comments it sounds like it is getting Unity port or something?
It would have been better if he just added more part options (like faces and hair) and new positions. Graphics were never the problem in technical sense - lack of variety was the issue. This problem is deeper than the visual since also the encounters, interactions, personalities and dialogue lacked the variety. Technical wankery isn't going to fix that.

 

[hyfka]

So, what is the state of the game's future? From the comments it sounds like it is getting Unity port or something?
It would have been better if he just added more part options (like faces and hair) and new positions. Graphics were never the problem in technical sense - lack of variety was the issue. This problem is deeper than the visual since also the encounters, interactions, personalities and dialogue lacked the variety. Technical wankery isn't going to fix that.

Probably effectively abandoooooned or turned into a community project

 

[bloodbus]

So, what is the state of the game's future? From the comments it sounds like it is getting Unity port or something?
It would have been better if he just added more part options (like faces and hair) and new positions. Graphics were never the problem in technical sense - lack of variety was the issue. This problem is deeper than the visual since also the encounters, interactions, personalities and dialogue lacked the variety. Technical wankery isn't going to fix that.

No unity port, that's just me being inquisitive baselessly. It's going open source so that Vren can get help improving the live2d implementation. Live2d was supposed to make more variety in art easier, but Vren isn't happy with how it looks. He isn't happy with how long it's taking either. It's not abandoned - Or even in danger of that. Vren's been communicative on the discord, which indicates the opposite of abandonment