dalzomo

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Ah, I know how to change the duties, I want to increase her work experience level so she can take more simultanously. I also tried everything under performance review, there isn't any option to promote her. She's only on level 2, so there should be room for more.
She just needs to keep working and eventually she'll bring it up once she has enough exp
 

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More along the line of make it easier to work with. This may lead to better looking stuff because it won't be so daunting a task to add anything as it is now, which requires hundreds of renders for even a single item
When With what I've seen from the demo, I think people expecting "better looking stuff" are going to be disappointed. It more-or-less looks exactly the same. This opens the door however to more animations (like better titty physics) as well as facial animations. On the latter point in using a widely adopted standard like Live2D it may make importing new and different faces into the game a lot easier, but we'll just have to wait and see the final implementation.
 
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When when I've seen from the demo, I think people expecting "better looking stuff" are going to be disappointed. It more-or-less looks exactly the same. This opens the door however to more animations (like better titty physics) as well as facial animations. On the latter point in using a widely adopted standard like Live2D it may make importing new and different faces into the game a lot easier, but we'll just have to wait and see the final implementation.
Initial implementation of Live2D won't make things better, no. But it will make it easier to add more content in the future, mostly reducing time to render, splitting out pieces so layering is easier, etc. So if you wanted a sweet 100k poly set of clothing or dozens of new faces, they won't come for free with Live2D, but they will be easier to add.
 

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Ah, I know how to change the duties, I want to increase her work experience level so she can take more simultanously. I also tried everything under performance review, there isn't any option to promote her. She's only on level 2, so there should be room for more.
My bad that is tied to the number of days she has worked.
14 days, 26,46,74
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v0.52.0 (which is rapidly entering "it's ready when it's ready" territory; my time estimates have proven to be way off so far for this project). will be the full LR2 game but with only a single Live2D pose.
This is looking more and more like HentHighSchool territory. They spent years doing paper dolls too. Endless refactoring and tinkering under the hood, no attention to content.

I'd almost prefer Vren make the mod official content and let them write the game so he do the programming/design work that is so clearly his main focus.
 
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This is looking more and more like HentHighSchool territory. They spent years doing paper dolls too. Endless refactoring and tinkering under the hood, no attention to content.

I'd almost prefer Vren make the mod official content and let them write the game so he do the programming/design work that is so clearly his main focus.
It's happening to 95% of the ongoing games on this site, simple because making content, meaningful content, is hard. It's way easier to transfer your attention to something like doing absolutely horrid animation work that no one asked for and pretend that you are still "updating" your game so you can continue to leech money off your patrons. (One example that springs to my mind right off the bat is Lilith's Throne).

Imagine how cool it would be if Vren would turn his attention to making new storylines, new events at the office, adding more characters for the girls, working on making those characters to be at least somewhat different from each other, to have them talk and react diffirently depending on their individuality, to finally write more sex lines for each character.

But this all takes immense amount of time, this is precisely why content additions stopped at around mid 2020? And since then the only updates we had were new coding, new unnecessary mechanics, new clothes, new "animations" (if you can even call them that) and so on. That's a thing that sadly plagues majority of games on this website.
 

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I kinda wanna know what all the live 2D is all about, anyone got a gif of it somewhere?
I can do one better, here's the demo posted by boobthief:

Sure, there you go:



It says 0.1 but this is from the public Patreon post and includes Demo 1 and 2.

Here are the mega links on Vren's public Patreon post:
 
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I can do one better, here's the demo posted by boobthief:
Looks like that link has expired, but I was just uploading it for someone who couldn't access Mega. Here are the Lab Rats Live2D demo links from :

PC


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Android
 

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It's happening to 95% of the ongoing games on this site, simple because making content, meaningful content, is hard. It's way easier to transfer your attention to something like doing absolutely horrid animation work that no one asked for and pretend that you are still "updating" your game so you can continue to leech money off your patrons. (One example that springs to my mind right off the bat is Lilith's Throne).

Imagine how cool it would be if Vren would turn his attention to making new storylines, new events at the office, adding more characters for the girls, working on making those characters to be at least somewhat different from each other, to have them talk and react diffirently depending on their individuality, to finally write more sex lines for each character.

But this all takes immense amount of time, this is precisely why content additions stopped at around mid 2020? And since then the only updates we had were new coding, new unnecessary mechanics, new clothes, new "animations" (if you can even call them that) and so on. That's a thing that sadly plagues majority of games on this website.
Can't win for losing, when every other comment is to do something with the graphics from the community. about everything you have mentioned, is in General in the gaming industry as a whole for those of us following games since the 1970's be it porn based or triple AAA. maybe a real gem every 3 years or so.
 

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Looks like that link has expired, but I was just uploading it for someone who couldn't access Mega. Here are the Lab Rats Live2D demo links from :

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Mega

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Mega

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Mega
This... just look like a replacement asset for the in game models.
So is he trying to make the little sex scenes at the right hand corner move or something? or is he just gonna play with poses?
With renpy's and the model's limitation I doubt how dynamic can it actually gets.
 

eldoen

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This... just look like a replacement asset for the in game models.
So is he trying to make the little sex scenes at the right hand corner move or something? or is he just gonna play with poses?
With renpy's and the model's limitation I doubt how dynamic can it actually gets.
I am going to admit I am not the most adept graphics pipeline guru. well lets go novice. I understand some of the concepts but never in the line to practice them and it was never anything I was interested in fully exploring, so take my understanding from that point of view.

My understanding of the current graphics pipeline is that it is tied to some propriety assets and possible tools that Vren cannot easily release the assets to public open source. Adding Live2d starts a process that gives some wiggle room to allow mods more freedom from that aspect, It also greatly reduces the complexity of certain aspects of the render system, so it may be possible to add jewelry, tatoo's etc., finger nail polish was even talked as a possibility.

that said, some of the things shown in the tech demo require animation so I see this as a first step.

but the live2d stuff is suppose to be more open to modders
 

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I am going to admit I am not the most adept graphics pipeline guru. well lets go novice. I understand some of the concepts but never in the line to practice them and it was never anything I was interested in fully exploring, so take my understanding from that point of view.

My understanding of the current graphics pipeline is that it is tied to some propriety assets and possible tools that Vren cannot easily release the assets to public open source. Adding Live2d starts a process that gives some wiggle room to allow mods more freedom from that aspect, It also greatly reduces the complexity of certain aspects of the render system, so it may be possible to add jewelry, tatoo's etc., finger nail polish was even talked as a possibility.

that said, some of the things shown in the tech demo require animation so I see this as a first step.

but the live2d stuff is suppose to be more open to modders
Live2d's has 2 differences I can see.
the first is it allows more control over proportions of the model. Second it allows making modifications to clothing templates some what easier in that you can add patterns to them. That said not to sure how useful that will be.
If you add a pattern to a dress of character standing it will not transfer the same way to the characters 2D image if she is in another position.

Vren is using daz3d if I am correct. He probably doesn't own the full rights to the models. Which means he can't simply release them to be used by the modding community. If he had made his own models then he could.

Frankly with all the work he is putting into the live2D I'd say he would be better off if he made his own models, dropped renpy and went full 3D. He could still use python and do it. It would require a bit more work in the long run but would be worth it. It would really open this game up for modding then.
 
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Hello everyone, sorry for my bad english, it's my third language.

So, i have a lot of random questions, i hope you can help me with them:

1) I found it's relatively easy to get high love/slutiness with some person, like sis/mom, and i was wondering if there was a post regrouping the scene we can get with love or slutiness at X value? it can be good for future replay to try and get all scene.

2) concerning cuz/aunt, they are actually at mom's house, i maxed love with aunt and got his slutiness at 20 i think, i checked all day time (morning, afternoon,evening...) but it doesn't seem to have possibility to have sex with her via event when she's with us (or i'm unlucky), it is normal? last scene i got she come to my room because they will be moving soon and wanted some help, she pose her hand on my leg, talk that she would have liked to find a man like me, and give me a familial hug , and this scene make me think that maybe i missed something with her

2 a: same question with cuz, is there some scene that i can trigger when she's in our house? i think i read that she steal some money at sis and that we can blackmail her, but never saw these, it's happenning later?

b) Concerning the thing that girl like/love/dislike/hate, and particulary when it come to sex: I have a scene when i buy the pi-phone for sis -in exchange to her be ok to give blowjob etc-, she was in trance, and when giving the blowjob i choose to bounce my cock on her face, and it seems to have triggered the opinion: like: being submissive.

So,i was wondering if she got this sex opinion because of the pi-phone and the fact that she give blowjob for a phone, or if it's because she was in trance and i was using some degradading option? or it's totally random?

I would like to try to get a random template for the girl -like one who like blowjob/cum- another who love bareback sex and pregnancy, maybe, etc... and I was wondering how the sex opinion they gain work exactly.

3a) still on the subject of sex opinion, i have an employee who, naturally, liked to give blowjob and she seems to be in trance relatively easy, so i give her the "like cum" opinion, but when she gives blowjob and i'm done cumming, she's always say thing like "urg..." or other thing who let thing that she don't like that, it is normal? maybe because how model are generated? it's not game breaking or something, but i found this a little annoying :p

4) concerning worker: i have 6 people working for me, 3 at lvl 1, and i'm guessing they gain work xp each time they work, but can we see there xp bar? or we just have to wait for an option to appear to get them lvl2?

5) concerning the selling contract: it is possible to have more than 2 contracts to choose by week? i checked business policy, but it doesn' t seem to be here -or i don't see /don't understand the one who permits that-

And i don't think of another question for now.

Sorry for the long post, and thank you in advance for your help :)
 

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Hello everyone, sorry for my bad english, it's my third language.

So, i have a lot of random questions, i hope you can help me with them:

1) I found it's relatively easy to get high love/slutiness with some person, like sis/mom, and i was wondering if there was a post regrouping the scene we can get with love or slutiness at X value? it can be good for future replay to try and get all scene.

2) concerning cuz/aunt, they are actually at mom's house, i maxed love with aunt and got his slutiness at 20 i think, i checked all day time (morning, afternoon,evening...) but it doesn't seem to have possibility to have sex with her via event when she's with us (or i'm unlucky), it is normal? last scene i got she come to my room because they will be moving soon and wanted some help, she pose her hand on my leg, talk that she would have liked to find a man like me, and give me a familial hug , and this scene make me think that maybe i missed something with her

2 a: same question with cuz, is there some scene that i can trigger when she's in our house? i think i read that she steal some money at sis and that we can blackmail her, but never saw these, it's happenning later?

b) Concerning the thing that girl like/love/dislike/hate, and particulary when it come to sex: I have a scene when i buy the pi-phone for sis -in exchange to her be ok to give blowjob etc-, she was in trance, and when giving the blowjob i choose to bounce my cock on her face, and it seems to have triggered the opinion: like: being submissive.

So,i was wondering if she got this sex opinion because of the pi-phone and the fact that she give blowjob for a phone, or if it's because she was in trance and i was using some degradading option? or it's totally random?

I would like to try to get a random template for the girl -like one who like blowjob/cum- another who love bareback sex and pregnancy, maybe, etc... and I was wondering how the sex opinion they gain work exactly.

3a) still on the subject of sex opinion, i have an employee who, naturally, liked to give blowjob and she seems to be in trance relatively easy, so i give her the "like cum" opinion, but when she gives blowjob and i'm done cumming, she's always say thing like "urg..." or other thing who let thing that she don't like that, it is normal? maybe because how model are generated? it's not game breaking or something, but i found this a little annoying :p

4) concerning worker: i have 6 people working for me, 3 at lvl 1, and i'm guessing they gain work xp each time they work, but can we see there xp bar? or we just have to wait for an option to appear to get them lvl2?

5) concerning the selling contract: it is possible to have more than 2 contracts to choose by week? i checked business policy, but it doesn' t seem to be here -or i don't see /don't understand the one who permits that-

And i don't think of another question for now.

Sorry for the long post, and thank you in advance for your help :)
1) I've been slowly working on a walkthrough for Lily's and Jennifer's taboo revisit events but I've been busy with other RL stuff so it's been delayed a bit. I'll finish it this week

2) If you help Rebecca move, you can get a few very light naughty scenes with her including seeing her nude in the shower if you choose "get money from aunt" when paying for the pizza, but there's no big payoff at the end when they move out. All the major events for Rebecca begin once they've moved into their own place, where you can drink with her every evening and she begins a weekly Wednesday night card game at your home with Lily and Jennifer if you choose to play

2 a) Nothing happens with Gabrielle until after they move out except maybe some phone events if you get her slutty enough. A few days, maybe a week, after they move out she'll begin visiting your house during the afternoon time slot. First she'll appear in the living room watching TV. Then she'll appear in Lily's room where you can catch her snooping for cash and begin blackmailing her. Further blackmail events begin once you get her sluttiness higher, beginning with a call from Rebecca asking you to investigate Gabrielle's odd behavior

b) All girls, including your family, spawn with random opinions for sexy actions. This game your Lily spawned with "likes submissive" and you discovered it by using a degrading/dominant action with her. Some opinions are more likely for the unique girls, and for different personalities. You just have to experiment or use trances to reveal them. You can add or remove sexy opinions using the trance system to train each girl to your taste

3a) That's probably her personality (all girls spawn with one of four personality archetypes) influencing that dialog. I don't recall if their dialog for drinking cum changes if they get higher sluttiness, but keep trying

4) They do gain xp by working. No, it's not visible yet. It has been suggested

5) You can buy a business policy to increase your active contracts. I don't recall if it changes the number of contracts offered each week, but the contracts are generated on Monday morning so you won't see any effect until the next Monday
 
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1) I've been slowly working on a walkthrough for Lily's and Jennifer's taboo revisit events but I've been busy with other RL stuff so it's been delayed a bit. I'll finish it this week

2) If you help Rebecca move, you can get a few very light naughty scenes with her including seeing her nude in the shower if you choose "get money from aunt" when paying for the pizza, but there's no big payoff at the end when they move out. All the major events for Rebecca begin once they've moved into their own place, where you can drink with her every evening and she begins a weekly Wednesday night card game at your home with Lily and Jennifer if you choose to play

2 a) Nothing happens with Gabrielle until after they move out except maybe some phone events if you get her slutty enough. A few days, maybe a week, after they move out she'll begin visiting your house during the afternoon time slot. First she'll appear in the living room watching TV. Then she'll appear in Lily's room where you can catch her snooping for cash and begin blackmailing her. Further blackmail events begin once you get her sluttiness higher, beginning with a call from Rebecca asking you to investigate Gabrielle's odd behavior

b) All girls, including your family, spawn with random opinions for sexy actions. This game your Lily spawned with "likes submissive" and you discovered it by using a degrading/dominant action with her. Some opinions are more likely for the unique girls, and for different personalities. You just have to experiment or use trances to reveal them. You can add or remove sexy opinions using the trance system to train each girl to your taste

3a) That's probably her personality (all girls spawn with one of four personality archetypes) influencing that dialog. I don't recall if their dialog for drinking cum changes if they get higher sluttiness, but keep trying

4) They do gain xp by working. No, it's not visible yet. It has been suggested

5) You can buy a business policy to increase your active contracts. I don't recall if it changes the number of contracts offered each week, but the contracts are generated on Monday morning so you won't see any effect until the next Monday
1) nice ! thank you for the hard work then :)

2&2a) I see, thank you for the precision, it's good to know i don't miss anything major yet :p

2 b) Ha i see, i guess the sex opinions are hidden till we found them -and if i'm not mistaken, there's a option when the girl are in trance to reveal them-, good to know, i had thought of something like that, but the fact that she got this with the pi-phone scene and the fact that she was in trance make me doubt, thank you !

3a) Oh, don't know there was four type of personnality -even if i had remarked that some girl behave differently in dialog, even with juste small talk- good to know. It's a little sad that their personnality don't match their sex opinion though -like in my case, love blowjob/cum but seems to don't like that in the dialog, it's a little breaking in term of immersion-

4) I see, just have to wait until i see a option to promote them

5) I see, i probably miss read this one or i misunderstood the description, will have to check all of them again

Once again, thank you for all those information, really appreciate it ! :)
 
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Is there something wrong with the console commands? I can't alter my workers.

From my understanding, it should be something like "Lilith".suggestiability = ## but it keeps saying AttributeError: 'unicode' object has no attribute 'suggestibility'
 

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Is there something wrong with the console commands? I can't alter my workers.

From my understanding, it should be something like "Lilith".suggestiability = ## but it keeps saying AttributeError: 'unicode' object has no attribute 'suggestibility'
It should be "the_person.suggestibility", not "character's name.suggestibility". Also, you will need to have the character selected.
 
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