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swagfiend

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Why so aggressive? Are you in any danger?

I recall the discussion you refer to, and I don't think the current one is without merits. While I also hope this game is not abandoned, the repeated silence from Vren does not improve my trust in this project. I'm not a defeatist, I'm not convinced the game is abandoned, I'm just concerned. So don't insult other people, as nobody is attacking you.

What I think is, Vren has no real interest in engaging the community in what he thinks is his own creation. As such, he doesn't feel obliged to give us any progress feedback, or even any information on what his current roadblock is. This is the bane of perfectionists (been there myself, done that many times). It eats into their motivation, the once beloved project becomes the hated one, and gets abandoned. People fear this fate awaits LR2 as well. Tell me, is this fear unfounded?

Also, it's not the way open-sourcing should work. Vren should explicitly state what his problems are, and try to involve more experienced people into this project. Communication is key here. And that communication is lacking with Vren.

If I face a huge roadblock for a month, I'm trying to enlist all the help I can. I don't see anything like that from Vren, and it's not a month, it's six. My real question to you was, do you? I assume you don't either. So, you just found an opportunity to be aggressive and insulting. This speaks volumes about you, but doesn't really add anything of value to the discussion. So, why bother?
No one wants to engage with reddit-speak outside reddit, shit's painful and unproductive.

Anyway, he did actually detail his problems, project blockages, absence (posts when he has made progress only), and what his progress is. He always has. A one month gap that was not unexpected to happen shouldn't come as a surprise.

This is one dude making a game, what creative direction and design decisions he makes are ultimately his, so if he doesn't agree with feedback that's his decision to make, not a failure on his part. As for "not open-sourcing correctly" the specific problems would be listed in the "issues" tab on the git, assuming that the public git page is where he's making changes which I doubt.
 
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Aion_Abyss

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Any plans of adding dates through phone texts as long as you have the other person's number?

What's the console command to learn a person's home location?
 
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Aloof_Tooth

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What's the console command to learn a person's home location?
mc.known_home_locations.append(the_person.home)
Since you've been quite active in the mods thread I'm assuming you're using the modded game version, where you can use the simpler and safer the_person.learn_home()
 

Harabec

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Well I for one am seriously looking forwards to this graphical overhaul. If it makes the models look more like they did in Lab Rats 1 it will be a massive improvement.
 
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manticore912

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Well I for one am seriously looking forwards to this graphical overhaul. If it makes the models look more like they did in Lab Rats 1 it will be a massive improvement.
I hope they don't go back to the old models. It's not that they look bad but they are ripped from a totally separate game and I personally like the models for Lab Rats 2 better. At least the game won't be just another of the million games that rip assets out of Illusion games.
 

themagiman

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I don't mind the models because I think the graphics are alright as they are. Having live2d animations with new models would be nice but not required.

More serum content is required though and I'm anxiously awaiting some kind of update from vren.
 

Strec

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Well I for one am seriously looking forwards to this graphical overhaul. If it makes the models look more like they did in Lab Rats 1 it will be a massive improvement.
The overhaul is done, all chars are paint in black in a room without light :rolleyes:
 
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jan^s

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"Done" is totally has a subjective use as a term and or an action, just ask anyone of my (drunk vs sober) girlfriends. :rolleyes:

done don.gif
 

Eschation

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that rip assets out of Illusion games.
That's uh... one way to look at it.
I can't speak for all of their games, but the Koikatsu and Honey Select "games" are barely games. They are, however, fairly extensive 3D character modeling (designing?) software... which is executed separate from the "game."
Complaining about the use of Illusion characters is kind of like complaining about someone designing and using Poser models.
HS2 samples, my designs:
 
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Evangelion-01

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That's uh... one way to look at it.
I can't speak for all of their games, but the Koikatsu and Honey Select "games" are barely games. They are, however, fairly extensive 3D character modeling (designing?) software... which is executed separate from the "game."
Complaining about the use of Illusion characters is kind of like complaining about someone designing and using Poser models.
HS2 samples, my designs (I selected the clothing and colored it, but I did not design it):
To be fair the games are fairly nice for female stand alone models... how far goes the modding for the MC though?
Because most games that are complained about are about the use of preset Characters all front the MC.
The Models of Lab Rats (1) are such presets for example
 

Eschation

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To be fair the games are fairly nice for female stand alone models... how far goes the modding for the MC though?
Because most games that are complained about are about the use of preset Characters all front the MC.
The Models of Lab Rats (1) are such presets for example
Ah, well, if they're presets, then I guess it's more like complaining about someone using presets from any modeling program... which is fair, though I'd expect it to be phrased that way.
 
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