VN Ren'Py Law School [S2 Ep.4 v1] [MisterMaya]

[-Kuro-]

Student advisors are staff at the school. It is usually a rule at most universities and could cost you your job and look bad for future endeavors. Depending on the actual marriage and the husband it could be an issue yes. We still don't know everything about that. I agree that the personality type reflects the MC not the girls per say. I'm just saying that a Altruist who in every decision seems to be a paragon of ethical choices would make a highly unethical one. It is just a little odd the cheating on husband path exists on that route to me. Technically still married even if it is an unhappy one.

its not an unhappy marriage.. she is already in the divorce process.. so technically she is not married anymore.. but stills being staff.. ( add here my previous comment)

 

[-Kuro-]

You are still really hung up on the "Elsa is married despite being separated and the divorce is about to be finalized" huh? I don't think separated people generally wait for the ink to dry to start looking for new partners. I didn't. Neither did my ex.

totally my point in what i just said.. bravo !!!

 

[TonyMurray]

I'm pretty sure this guy has been crashing out on every forum cause I've seen his post in several places with the same wording.

I don't mind people not enjoying the content for their favourite character, but this one bugs me some. I think I'm usually pretty good at it, but I just can't see the point this time - this is not what "overjoyed" looks like:

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And even if MC might have feelings for Rose (for which there has not been much of an opportunity for the player to choose that yet), he's her best friend, and would want her to be happy. He's hardly going to say "No, Lana, I don't want to help my best friend. You're on your own."

 

[-Kuro-]

I don't mind people not enjoying the content for their favourite character, but this one bugs me some. I think I'm usually pretty good at it, but I just can't see the point this time - this is not what "overjoyed" looks like:

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And even if MC might have feelings for Rose (for which there has not been much of an opportunity for the player to choose that yet), he's her best friend, and would want her to be happy. He's hardly going to say "No, Lana, I don't want to help my best friend. You're on your own."

Agreed.. she is his best friend for ages.. he would prob prefer her to be happy than to ruin the friendship telling her he want to bang her so hard she cant walk for days. There is a moment wher Mc says ( to rose) he never paid much attention to her ass..but now everybody talks about it.. he is doing.. means (at least for me) rose is the less probable of all to be GF material.. otherwise, he would have tried something with her before, but he didnt as far as we know

 

[glaslow]

You are still really hung up on the "Elsa is married despite being separated and the divorce is about to be finalized" huh? I don't think separated people generally wait for the ink to dry to start looking for new partners. I didn't. Neither did my ex.

It not really about the looking for a new partner cause whatever its fine. It is about if it fits the Altruistic personality type or not. It is still a little unethical and the student staff relationship even more so. I just think it should be on a different path. I'm not saying the storyline is bad and could never happen.

 

[OsirisHeir._]

Agreed.. she is his best friend for ages.. he would prob prefer her to be happy than to ruin the friendship telling her he want to bang her so hard she cant walk for days. There is a moment wher Mc says ( to rose) he never paid much attention to her ass..but now everybody talks about it.. he is doing.. means (at least for me) rose is the less probable of all to be GF material.. otherwise, he would have tried something with her before, but he didnt as far as we know

Which is the most realistic thing a friend can do in that situation for over 10+ years

 

[glaslow]

its not an unhappy marriage.. she is already in the divorce process.. so technically she is not married anymore.. but stills being staff.. ( add here my previous comment)

no technically she is cause until it is finalized under the law in the eyes of the law you are still married. If this wasn't a Law school, I wouldn't care...

 

[-Kuro-]

Which is the most realistic thing a friend can do in that situation for over 10+ years

in AVN terms its not realistic.. he would bang her even the friendship changes.. but something MM is doing and i love... he is being realistic...
take for example what they are bickering like old ladies about Elsa and her soon to end marriage.. realistically if u know she is getting divorced..you would hit on her if u like her.. in a AVN u woulddo it even she is married ( here the unethical part).. so as far as i can reead MM is being realistic in terms of the relationships and how characters react

 

[-Kuro-]

no technically she is cause until it is finalized under the law in the eyes of the law you are still married. If this wasn't a Law school, I wouldn't care...

under the law.. once u divorce the first time u are not single ever again.. your statuss ( until u remarry) is divorced.. so lets not be so picky. XD
What she is doing might be considered unethic.. but not ilegal ( taking aside she is staff and he is student, only considering the marriage thing) so under the law she is not commiting any kind of felony ( being unfaithfull is not a crime ), she is worried for the ethics more than for the legality of the situation.. and she proves that way lots of times every time she tells MC their dynamic has to end because its not correct.. I enphatize.. NON CORRECT.. NOT ILLEGAL.

 

[glaslow]

under the law.. once u divorce the first time u are not single ever again.. your statuss ( until u remarry) is divorced.. so lets not be so picky. XD

 

[-Kuro-]

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btw i updated.. u should read the changes

 

[glaslow]

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btw i updated.. u should read the changes

The argument before the court was not about the question of its legality but the ethical nature matching that of a textbook definition of an Altruistic personality type.

engaging in a sexual relationship with a teacher does not indicate an altruistic personality and may instead reflect motivations inconsistent with altruism.

 

[OsirisHeir._]

in AVN terms its not realistic.. he would bang her even the friendship changes.. but something MM is doing and i love... he is being realistic...
take for example what they are bickering like old ladies about Elsa and her soon to end marriage.. realistically if u know she is getting divorced..you would hit on her if u like her.. in a AVN u woulddo it even she is married ( here the unethical part).. so as far as i can reead MM is being realistic in terms of the relationships and how characters react

I agree with MM being realistic with the LI, which is why I like the game to begin with. Porn logic is always a given in AVN spaces, so I also agree. As for the Elsa debate, I'm just part of the jury gathering information from both parties. You guys may continue.

 

[-Kuro-]

The argument before the court was not about the question of its legality but the ethical nature matching that of a textbook definition of an Altruistic personality type.

engaging in a sexual relationship with a teacher does not indicate an altruistic personality and may instead reflect motivations inconsistent with altruism.

maybe the altruistic is not the relationship itself but the outcome.. she is feeling loved.. she is feeling important and cared.. things she wasnt feeling in her marriage here u have ur altruistic side ... making her feeling better. You can be altruistic having some interest in that person.. its called Self-interested altruism, even if u have a selfish interest.. you are being altruistric..

 

[glaslow]

maybe the altruistic is not the relationship itself but the outcome.. she is feeling loved.. she is feeling important and cared.. things she wasnt feeling in her marriage here u have ur altruistic side ... making her feeling better. You can be altruistic having some interest in that person.. its called Self-interested altruism, even if u have a selfish interest.. you are being altruistric..

What about the other people affected by these actions? Would the other staff feel better or more loved due to this scenario? Would the soon to be Ex-Husband Enjoy knowing you have been fucking his soon to be Ex-Wife? He would not. They Would not.
The ends do not justify the means and a true Altruist would consider others before acting selfishly.

 

[-Kuro-]

What about the other people affected by these actions? Would the other staff feel better or more loved due to this scenario? Would the soon to be Ex-Husband Enjoy knowing you have been fucking his soon to be Ex-Wife? He would not. They Would not.
The ends do not justify the means and a true Altruist would consider others before acting selfishly.
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what u intend to say is " Pure altruism " is the only way of being altrusitic...
lets think what a " Pure altruitic" would do..he would make her reconsider divorce.. making the marriage to go on ( so the husband stills happy) but what now? she is unhappy!! pure altruim is IMPOSIBLE .. you cant make everybody happy. you just focus on one or a bunch of people and work with them.. in this case .. Elsa's happiness..
For whats is worth... the staff gives a shit about Elsa's private life or marriage.. they are collegues not friends.. hence their opinion is not relevant in this case.

 

[glaslow]

what u intend to say is " Pure altruism " is the only way of being altrusitic...
lets think what a " Pure altruitic" would do..he would make her reconsider divorce.. making the marriage to go on ( so the husband stills happy) but what now? she is unhappy!! pure altruim is IMPOSIBLE .. you cant make everybody happy. you just focus on one or a bunch of people and work with them.. in this case .. Elsa's happiness..
For whats is worth... the staff gives a shit about Elsa's private life or marriage.. they are collegues not friends.. hence their opinion is not relevant in this case.

It is not necessarily pure altruism. The MC committed multiple actions against his Altruistic nature in pursuit of Elsa. Even after various objections by Elsa herself to the relationship. He chose to neglect these objections on not one but two occasions so far or more if you make certain lewd choices in her dialogue scenes.

As for the argument that true altruism is impossible I say nay to that sir and present the evidence.

That's right Jesus Christ.

I rest my case. (This has been fun.)

 

[-Kuro-]

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It is not necessarily pure altruism. The MC committed multiple actions against his Altruistic nature in pursuit of Elsa. Even after various objections by Elsa herself to the relationship. He chose to neglect these objections on not one but two occasions so far or more if you make certain lewd choices in her dialogue scenes.

As for the argument that true altruism is impossible I say nay to that sir and present the evidence.
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That's right Jesus Christ.
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I rest my case. (This has been fun.)

to base an statement in a religion.. funny.. not all people believe in that book.. not all altruistic believe in it, think about true altruistics in real life ( budism, synthoism and so) they do not believe in that book.. if u reaad it u will read about a lot of non altruistic actions towards an altruistic mean..


indeed it was fun.. sad is not a chat.. but a forum.. in a chat would be faster and funnier

 

[MagicMan753]

There's crashing out and there's losing it... The original guy has been posting across multiple websites about how his Christmas is ruined.

It's literally only been one episode. We have no idea what's going to happen.... let's just take it fucking easy.

I'm pretty sure this guy has been crashing out on every forum cause I've seen his post in several places with the same wording.

I don't know what yall mean every forum. A few messages/repsonses here and like one post on reddit(literally two, so don't know what you mean every forum) must mean I am crashing out, I am losing it.

There have been no crashouts from me. I guess people can't be passionate about things. Guess I can't ever express fustrations, I can only praise everything, no that is dumb. I am fine mentally, I am just upset that the dev made this decision, maybe saying Christmas is ruined was too far, but thats just how I felt in the moment.

I don't mind people not enjoying the content for their favourite character, but this one bugs me some. I think I'm usually pretty good at it, but I just can't see the point this time - this is not what "overjoyed" looks like:

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And even if MC might have feelings for Rose (for which there has not been much of an opportunity for the player to choose that yet), he's her best friend, and would want her to be happy. He's hardly going to say "No, Lana, I don't want to help my best friend. You're on your own."

Seems overjoyed to me. The high five felt too over the top. Maybe others see it differently. I hate the setup and where it is going, but maybe I could get behind it if we showed even the slightest hesitation. The slightest thought, like do I want this, but we are just instantly OK with it. And that is the crux of my issue. First off no one wants to play matchmaker in an AVN like someone else said, I just wanted to show something from us instead of instantly being OK with it, cause we shouldn't. Just a few small adjustments.

I would still hate the setup, cause its stupid and really only there for a haha joke funny moment instead of developing the romance like other girls. But would be more OK, with just us showing something or doubt.

And I hate the argument, it's realistic. What in this game has actually truly been realistic. There are so many scenarios and thing in this game that is truly unrealistic. So I hate that is realistic, cause if that is the case MAKE everything realistic, and change everything to be like real life.

But I just got to live with the fact that the dev doesn't actually care about developing a Rose route. You said maybe I was too harsh in a different message, that is just how I feel personally based on everything up to this point and this scene. Like look how pushed others girls are and how their storyline go, where Rose, we get to play matchmaker.( I know won't actually happen but still dumb.)

But those are just my thoughts on everything. And I guess sorry for crashing out after posting another message, cause apparently that means I am crashing out.

 

[jobu123]

What about the other people affected by these actions? Would the other staff feel better or more loved due to this scenario? Would the soon to be Ex-Husband Enjoy knowing you have been fucking his soon to be Ex-Wife? He would not. They Would not.
The ends do not justify the means and a true Altruist would consider others before acting selfishly.
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Respectfully, I could not have given less of a flying fuck what my (now ex) wife thought of ANY of my actions after we separated. Nor me of what she did. Neither of us had that right any longer. It's not like MC walked out of Elsas house and told Brian they fucked. It's none of his fucking business if they did or didn't, not anymore.