VN Ren'Py Layla: Shattered Hopes [Ep.5] [OtB Games]

[HoneyMonster]

The problem now lies at the very root. I thought through almost everything — how the plot would develop, how it would smoothly transition to other branches — but I didn't consider that when you promise a lesbian route, people don't choose it to watch sex with men. Obvious? Obvious. But I missed it, which once again confirms my incompetence in this matter.

That's why I'm now thinking about not even touching this branch anymore, since I probably won't be able to do it properly anyway if I've already botched it at an early stage. 'Don't stick your nose where you don't understand' xD

Yeah that's why it's a lesbian route, NO sex with men, Its a fixable problem, so not the end of the world.

 

[HPZAT]

Well if you had any interest in this novel then you would already know there is a planned lesbian route

How about reading your own comment that I answered...

And according to this there never was a plan to have a lesbian path as you see it:

That's why I'm now thinking about not even touching this branch anymore, since I probably won't be able to do it properly anyway if I've already botched it at an early stage. 'Don't stick your nose where you don't understand' xD

 

[OtB Games]

Vote on the topic of cancelling the development of the Lesbian Route — open to everyone on my Patreon. I've explained everything there. Your opinion matters to me.

 

[Edhinor]

Vote on the topic of cancelling the development of the Lesbian Route — open to everyone on my Patreon. I've explained everything there. Your opinion matters to me.

Hey, I voted on Patreon but wanted to add my two cents here. I think the main thing is that you have to write what you find hot. If you are not into lesbian stuff and can't write it naturally but you are forcing yourself to write it because people asked for it then you are only going to burn yourself out.

I think this is true for any creative endeavor, as the creative will only really produce the best they can when the feel a connection to what they are creating, but it is specially so for sexual stuff, as you can't force yourself to like some kinks or to have a different sexual preference than what you do.

So yeah... you do you, write and create what you like and feel more comfortable about. You tried to accommodate their request but ultimately it didn't work for you, no one can ask more of you.

 

[PickerLewd]

The developer's name is "Only the Best Games".

Does he have any other games? .

 

[HoneyMonster]

How about reading your own comment that I answered...

And according to this there never was a plan to have a lesbian path as you see it:

Looking at the response from the dev there was a planned Lesbian route, He states this himself that that it is planned to have a lesbian route, Ooopsss your bad

 

[PickerLewd]

What I can tell you is that when you sit down to write your script, you should let it flow with whatever you like: something that has occurred to you or inspiration from playing other games, for example.

If you try to please everyone, you'll end up pleasing no one .

Good luck !

 

[HPZAT]

Looking at the response from the dev there was a planned Lesbian route, He states this himself that that it is planned to have a lesbian route, Ooopsss your bad

I see, a reading comprehension problem case.

According to you a lesbian route is a lesbian only route.

According to the dev no such route was planned.

Suggestion: if you want a lesbian only path ask for "lesbian only path", not "lesbian path".

 

[HoneyMonster]

I see, a reading comprehension problem case.

According to you a lesbian route is a lesbian only route.

According to the dev no such route was planned.

Suggestion: if you want a lesbian only path ask for "lesbian only path", not "lesbian path".

Im not a simpleton like yourself and think a lesbian tag only means some lesbian action, Dev's use the lesbian tag to cover a full lesbian only route also since there is no "Lesbian only" tag, and if you actually listen to the dev of this novel, he himself was adding a lesbian only route, but it seems like you know more about this novel than the dev himself.

 

[HPZAT]

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[Sarcasm] I want Layla to be a virgin and that there'll be at least three choices, which old and/or fat bastard deflowers her. And add a goblin and an orc to this.

Now I'm off to run all over fmc game topics to make this wish in an obnoxiously demanding way. [Sarcasm]

 

[Dunking_Donuts]

I don't know what you changed in the files, but my old saves weren't working and I had to start the game over.

 

[MiltonPowers]

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Let me clarify a few things.

First, I'm not removing the possibility of scenes with this theme, or any other alternative themes for that matter. If I find a perfect moment for a particular scene or simply want to add some variety to the game, I will implement it. However, I won't just shove a scene in randomly just to check off a tag. I'll do it in a way that feels organic and fits well into the narrative. I'm just not ready to develop this particular branch on a constant basis, as it would be like an unloved child I'd have to keep feeding (not the best analogy, but I hope you get my point).

Second, there's a reason why I didn't give players a choice to refuse a relationship with Roy in the City Route. The romance path hasn't even begun yet, and frankly, the main plot as a whole is just starting. It's all about getting acquainted with the new team, the job, and laying the groundwork for relationships that could still change in many ways.

For the City Route, I currently plan to implement two sub-branches: the Romance path and the Cheating/Bitch path. Each will have its own story and its own set of problems.

The same applies to the Whore Route: one path where Layla refuses any relationship, and another where she agrees to one, but these relationships will be fundamentally different from those in the City Route. I think you can roughly imagine what I mean I might add more plot branches in the future, but it's too early to talk about that.

I also want to add this: no matter how hard I try to diversify the game, you will be tied to certain relationships depending on your initial choices. It's impossible to create a game with complete freedom in choosing a partner unless it's a dating simulator – but then you can forget about any substantial story. You'd just click on who you want to be with and play mini-games.

What I'm creating is a story about a girl where you have the right to steer her onto a particular path and influence her as the plot progresses. But the outcome is finite. In the end, you will either have a defined relationship, or you will reject it, or start cheating, etc. There is no, and cannot be, complete freedom of action. For my part, I will try to create characters with different personalities for each branch, who should fit into the atmosphere of what's happening.

 

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[OtB Games]

I don't know what you changed in the files, but my old saves weren't working and I had to start the game over.

That's very strange, since I didn't change anything. I'll check what it might be.

 

[Jungles70]

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[mitchk809]

You must be sucking it as a straight man too huh

Sorry buddy you’re not my type. But good luck with the lesbians.

 

[OtB Games]

I've added a Netorare tag to the Future Tags list. Naturally, this will be a separate sub-branch within the Whore Route. If this isn't your cup of tea, you can continue playing the other branches — these routes will differ significantly even within the Whore Route itself.

As for the City Route, it will feature cheating, which, as you understand, is a different theme altogether and better suits the tone of that route.

 

[Chules_tp]

The game is really good. The renders aren’t amazing resolution-wise, but they’re very well done.

However, the game has one problem: the protagonist isn’t particularly striking. Don’t get me wrong — she’s pretty and has a great figure — but I think we can agree she’s not Riley from Steps of Debauchery, for example. That can make the game easy to overlook.

Another issue is that the prostitute route is a bit rushed. I find it funny how Layla in that route keeps putting herself down — it’s like she’s her own executioner.

The prostitute route fits my tastes perfectly, so I became a supporter without hesitation, and I really hope both the game and the dev do well.

And a special shoutout to Marlene — I love her as a device for humiliating Layla. She pretty much plays the same role as Samuel L. Jackson in Django Unchained.

 

[OtB Games]

The game is really good. The renders aren’t amazing resolution-wise, but they’re very well done.

However, the game has one problem: the protagonist isn’t particularly striking. Don’t get me wrong — she’s pretty and has a great figure — but I think we can agree she’s not Riley from Steps of Debauchery, for example. That can make the game easy to overlook.

Another issue is that the prostitute route is a bit rushed. I find it funny how Layla in that route keeps putting herself down — it’s like she’s her own executioner.

The prostitute route fits my tastes perfectly, so I became a supporter without hesitation, and I really hope both the game and the dev do well.

And a special shoutout to Marlene — I love her as a device for humiliating Layla. She pretty much plays the same role as Samuel L. Jackson in Django Unchained.

Thank you for the kind words. Regarding the protagonist, in the very beginning, I had a completely different character—a much more ordinary (plain), unremarkable girl, and that was a deliberate choice to build the story around her having to compete with much more beautiful women. However, I decided to switch to a prettier model, and many people liked her, but there was never a plan to make her a stunning beauty. On the contrary, I tried to make her appearance slightly more ordinary. All this was reflected in the casting, and I will continue to develop this theme further.

As for the pacing of the progression, yes, I decided to give players some 'strawberry' a bit faster, but the actual downfall will be very gradual. That is, she won't immediately become a complete slut in her head as soon as she starts the 'whore route.' The degradation will be slow, affecting her attitude towards sex and everything around her. In this way, I'm killing two birds with one stone: I'm leaving room for the gradual decline that some players like, while also presenting sex content that will appeal to other players. It's up to you to judge how well I succeed in this, but I will try to make it all as realistic as possible, and I hope that in this regard, Episode 6 will please both types of players.

P.S. Ah, about the resolution! Yes, I'm not using a high resolution—just 1080p. This choice directly affects the game's size. If I were to use 4K, the size would already exceed 3 GB, even with modern compression techniques!

Nevertheless, I believe that in the latest updates, the renders look better even at the same resolution, because I've started using more samples than in the first episodes.

 

[WhiteSwan1916]

Thank you for the kind words. Regarding the protagonist, in the very beginning, I had a completely different character—a much more ordinary (plain), unremarkable girl, and that was a deliberate choice to build the story around her having to compete with much more beautiful women. However, I decided to switch to a prettier model, and many people liked her, but there was never a plan to make her a stunning beauty. On the contrary, I tried to make her appearance slightly more ordinary. All this was reflected in the casting, and I will continue to develop this theme further.

As for the pacing of the progression, yes, I decided to give players some 'strawberry' a bit faster, but the actual downfall will be very gradual. That is, she won't immediately become a complete slut in her head as soon as she starts the 'whore route.' The degradation will be slow, affecting her attitude towards sex and everything around her. In this way, I'm killing two birds with one stone: I'm leaving room for the gradual decline that some players like, while also presenting sex content that will appeal to other players. It's up to you to judge how well I succeed in this, but I will try to make it all as realistic as possible, and I hope that in this regard, Episode 6 will please both types of players.

P.S. Ah, about the resolution! Yes, I'm not using a high resolution—just 1080p. This choice directly affects the game's size. If I were to use 4K, the size would already exceed 3 GB, even with modern compression techniques!

Nevertheless, I believe that in the latest updates, the renders look better even at the same resolution, because I've started using more samples than in the first episodes.

For what it is worth, I for one like the way the way the FMC looks very much! In fact this is one of two main reasons why I am interested in this AVN.