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Any chance we can have Layla just give BJ's in the whore route? I'd like to keep her somewhat pure while she tries to make it out.
Layla has ended up in a really shitty situation (more details will be revealed in Episode 6). In the next episode, she can still refuse to have sex, but unfortunately, getting out of this branch unscathed won't be possible. I'm truly sorry about that.
 
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Layla has ended up in a really shitty situation (more details will be revealed in Episode 6). In the next episode, she can still refuse to have sex, but unfortunately, getting out of this branch unscathed won't be possible. I'm truly sorry about that.
Ah that's disappointing to hear, but I'm still interested to see where the story goes.
 

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Its an easy fix if you intend to have a lesbian route, just don't force Roy onto the player, Jody who Layla is working with could have been a crush/LI since they will be spending so much time working together, and jody has already told Leyla that she is a lesbian, That would have been the ideal pace to set the lesbian route. you mention cheating as part of "the city route" will that be forced or by choice, Like someone else mentioned it's your Novel to do as you please, most of us will just give you feedback, its down to you if you take it as an insult to your intended story or if you find it helpful to help you moving forward.
The problem now lies at the very root. I thought through almost everything — how the plot would develop, how it would smoothly transition to other branches — but I didn't consider that when you promise a lesbian route, people don't choose it to watch sex with men. Obvious? Obvious. But I missed it, which once again confirms my incompetence in this matter.

That's why I'm now thinking about not even touching this branch anymore, since I probably won't be able to do it properly anyway if I've already botched it at an early stage. 'Don't stick your nose where you don't understand' xD
 

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The problem now lies at the very root. I thought through almost everything — how the plot would develop, how it would smoothly transition to other branches — but I didn't consider that when you promise a lesbian route, people don't choose it to watch sex with men. Obvious? Obvious. But I missed it, which once again confirms my incompetence in this matter.

That's why I'm now thinking about not even touching this branch anymore, since I probably won't be able to do it properly anyway if I've already botched it at an early stage. 'Don't stick your nose where you don't understand' xD
I do not see why you should have to give up a planned Lesbian route, You could go back and add an option to not do anything with Roy in EP5, it could be a simple as do i like Roy as a lover or just a friend, this then keeps the lesbian route open further along when you decide to add it and keeps Roy a LI for non lesbian route, or maybe the next update Leyla chooses Roy is more a friend than a lover keeping the Lesbian route open, Ive seen plenty of Devs change an already released update to improve or fix the story and planned routes.
 

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The problem now lies at the very root. I thought through almost everything — how the plot would develop, how it would smoothly transition to other branches — but I didn't consider that when you promise a lesbian route, people don't choose it to watch sex with men. Obvious? Obvious. But I missed it, which once again confirms my incompetence in this matter.

That's why I'm now thinking about not even touching this branch anymore, since I probably won't be able to do it properly anyway if I've already botched it at an early stage. 'Don't stick your nose where you don't understand' xD
Yeah that's why it's a lesbian route, NO sex with men, Its a fixable problem, so not the end of the world.
 

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Well if you had any interest in this novel then you would already know there is a planned lesbian route
How about reading your own comment that I answered...

And according to this there never was a plan to have a lesbian path as you see it:
That's why I'm now thinking about not even touching this branch anymore, since I probably won't be able to do it properly anyway if I've already botched it at an early stage. 'Don't stick your nose where you don't understand' xD
 
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Vote on the topic of cancelling the development of the Lesbian Route — open to everyone on my Patreon. I've explained everything there. Your opinion matters to me.
 
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Vote on the topic of cancelling the development of the Lesbian Route — open to everyone on my Patreon. I've explained everything there. Your opinion matters to me.

Hey, I voted on Patreon but wanted to add my two cents here. I think the main thing is that you have to write what you find hot. If you are not into lesbian stuff and can't write it naturally but you are forcing yourself to write it because people asked for it then you are only going to burn yourself out.

I think this is true for any creative endeavor, as the creative will only really produce the best they can when the feel a connection to what they are creating, but it is specially so for sexual stuff, as you can't force yourself to like some kinks or to have a different sexual preference than what you do.

So yeah... you do you, write and create what you like and feel more comfortable about. You tried to accommodate their request but ultimately it didn't work for you, no one can ask more of you.
 

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How about reading your own comment that I answered...

And according to this there never was a plan to have a lesbian path as you see it:
Looking at the response from the dev there was a planned Lesbian route, He states this himself that that it is planned to have a lesbian route, Ooopsss your bad
 
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What I can tell you is that when you sit down to write your script, you should let it flow with whatever you like: something that has occurred to you or inspiration from playing other games, for example.

If you try to please everyone, you'll end up pleasing no one :WeSmart:.

Good luck (y)!
 

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Looking at the response from the dev there was a planned Lesbian route, He states this himself that that it is planned to have a lesbian route, Ooopsss your bad
I see, a reading comprehension problem case.

According to you a lesbian route is a lesbian only route.

According to the dev no such route was planned.

Suggestion: if you want a lesbian only path ask for "lesbian only path", not "lesbian path".
 

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I see, a reading comprehension problem case.

According to you a lesbian route is a lesbian only route.

According to the dev no such route was planned.

Suggestion: if you want a lesbian only path ask for "lesbian only path", not "lesbian path".
Im not a simpleton like yourself and think a lesbian tag only means some lesbian action, Dev's use the lesbian tag to cover a full lesbian only route also since there is no "Lesbian only" tag, and if you actually listen to the dev of this novel, he himself was adding a lesbian only route, but it seems like you know more about this novel than the dev himself.
 
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[Sarcasm] I want Layla to be a virgin and that there'll be at least three choices, which old and/or fat bastard deflowers her. And add a goblin and an orc to this.

Now I'm off to run all over fmc game topics to make this wish in an obnoxiously demanding way. [Sarcasm]
 
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Let me clarify a few things.

First, I'm not removing the possibility of scenes with this theme, or any other alternative themes for that matter. If I find a perfect moment for a particular scene or simply want to add some variety to the game, I will implement it. However, I won't just shove a scene in randomly just to check off a tag. I'll do it in a way that feels organic and fits well into the narrative. I'm just not ready to develop this particular branch on a constant basis, as it would be like an unloved child I'd have to keep feeding (not the best analogy, but I hope you get my point).

Second, there's a reason why I didn't give players a choice to refuse a relationship with Roy in the City Route. The romance path hasn't even begun yet, and frankly, the main plot as a whole is just starting. It's all about getting acquainted with the new team, the job, and laying the groundwork for relationships that could still change in many ways.

For the City Route, I currently plan to implement two sub-branches: the Romance path and the Cheating/Bitch path. Each will have its own story and its own set of problems.

The same applies to the Whore Route: one path where Layla refuses any relationship, and another where she agrees to one, but these relationships will be fundamentally different from those in the City Route. I think you can roughly imagine what I mean ;) I might add more plot branches in the future, but it's too early to talk about that.

I also want to add this: no matter how hard I try to diversify the game, you will be tied to certain relationships depending on your initial choices. It's impossible to create a game with complete freedom in choosing a partner unless it's a dating simulator – but then you can forget about any substantial story. You'd just click on who you want to be with and play mini-games.

What I'm creating is a story about a girl where you have the right to steer her onto a particular path and influence her as the plot progresses. But the outcome is finite. In the end, you will either have a defined relationship, or you will reject it, or start cheating, etc. There is no, and cannot be, complete freedom of action. For my part, I will try to create characters with different personalities for each branch, who should fit into the atmosphere of what's happening.
 

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