knuthamsun

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Is kinda nice seeing how Leane 2 managed to improve the gameplay of the first game, despite the map being almost twice as big as this one.
I just really hate replenishing my army on this game. It is always going to bankrupt you. It kinda force you to use a few characters rather than the entire army.
 

ehendu

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Is kinda nice seeing how Leane 2 managed to improve the gameplay of the first game, despite the map being almost twice as big as this one.
I just really hate replenishing my army on this game. It is always going to bankrupt you. It kinda force you to use a few characters rather than the entire army.
Yeah...the cost of replenishing was annoying enough that once I confirmed I was actually stable I just toggled the cheat to set enemy troops to 2 after the battle starts. Past a certain point it becomes less strategy and more just sitting and waiting.
 
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freshsquid

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Yeah...the cost of replenishing was annoying enough that once I confirmed I was actually stable I just toggled the cheat to set enemy troops to 2 after the battle starts. Past a certain point it becomes less strategy and more just sitting and waiting.
I get the replenishment system in principle. It punishes your economy and time to replenish, which allows time for captured girls to be stripped, or for enemy units to whittle you down while you're recovering. If you just give all troops the strongest classes, it'll take very long to recover. Also incentivizes holding more territory for a higher income.

Unfortunately even on higher difficulties, the enemy generally does not force your hand much, more-so just making it so you need to wait longer, and it takes so long for captured girls to be stripped that you aren't at much risk to wait. There isn't a way to speed the waiting up (or the battle animations, even in Leanne 2) which adds to the impatience, and because replenishing troops is so expensive on the whole, it renders barracks and first aid pointless, and makes it hard to engage with other systems because you spend most of the game at 0 dollars. It also means most purchases are pennies compared to your troop replenishment, removing strategic elements of picking what to buy.

Anyways, I love the game anyways and it DOES have a good tactical core, but this game definitely has some wacky balancing, and there isn't quite enough pressure to make the replenishment costs a compelling system. I have some similar balancing concerns with Leane 2's difficulty, but one thing I think it does to really improve things is adding an internal, mobile enemy within your nation, in the form of the harem. Even if you're comfortable defending your front lines while replenishing, the harem can create an internal time pressure and provide something to focus on while you wait. Still not perfect, but I admire these games for what they aim to be.
 

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and of course there's balance issues. of course there would be considering this is a very old game. prologue was very good but that's it. glad I stopped early.
 

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I get the replenishment system in principle. It punishes your economy and time to replenish, which allows time for captured girls to be stripped, or for enemy units to whittle you down while you're recovering. If you just give all troops the strongest classes, it'll take very long to recover. Also incentivizes holding more territory for a higher income.

Unfortunately even on higher difficulties, the enemy generally does not force your hand much, more-so just making it so you need to wait longer, and it takes so long for captured girls to be stripped that you aren't at much risk to wait. There isn't a way to speed the waiting up (or the battle animations, even in Leanne 2) which adds to the impatience, and because replenishing troops is so expensive on the whole, it renders barracks and first aid pointless, and makes it hard to engage with other systems because you spend most of the game at 0 dollars. It also means most purchases are pennies compared to your troop replenishment, removing strategic elements of picking what to buy.
There technically is a way to speed both this and Leanne up with this . It adds three "cheats" but the first two "cheats" in this are just quality of life improvements. Hitting F5 on map screen toggles battle animations on/off and F6 toggles fast forward for day progression. Only F7 is an actual cheat. (toggles setting enemy troops to 2 when combat begins).

But yeah, it also is annoying that I'm 90% sure the Spy -> Steal money only reduces the foes gold, and doesn't actually add it to yours. But it's also a small enough amount it might have just been consumed before you even saw it.

To add to the capture and strip risk being trivial: the enemy really doesn't bother to use the transfer prisoner feature of prison level 5. So it's pretty trivial to rescue them as you don't need a fully trooped General to be effective Spying. Maybe troop number slightly impacted Sabotage damage, but I didn't notice much.

and makes it hard to engage with other systems because you spend most of the game at 0 dollars. It also means most purchases are pennies compared to your troop replenishment, removing strategic elements of picking what to buy.
Yup. Just set aside a construction crew and pause right after income to make sure you're getting all your cheap construction projects finished before your troop replenishment eats all your gold.

Anyways, I love the game anyways and it DOES have a good tactical core, but this game definitely has some wacky balancing, and there isn't quite enough pressure to make the replenishment costs a compelling system. I have some similar balancing concerns with Leane 2's difficulty, but one thing I think it does to really improve things is adding an internal, mobile enemy within your nation, in the form of the harem. Even if you're comfortable defending your front lines while replenishing, the harem can create an internal time pressure and provide something to focus on while you wait. Still not perfect, but I admire these games for what they aim to be.
The internal harem, irritating as it was, was a very good addition for an NTR focused game. Still would be nice to see more "reward" for having a good strategy/achieving the in-game stated objectives well. But most NTR studios are clearly disinterested in trying to build a more robust game with branching paths not involving NTR and instead opt more "sex avoidable" than "NTR avoidable" if they want to pretend they don't railroad the NTR.
 

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Overall, the Leane series (1 & 2) are good games with quite a few flaws, like the waiting between sieging an enemy base, the constant lack or resources for everything but replenishing troops, the passive way the enemy engage with the map (they almost never attack you) and so on.

But it is a shame that it doesn't seem we got copycats trying to make their own Leane version, truly a shame. We had like a million scars of summer (which as a game, is not really that good) but nothing for Leane.
 

ehendu

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Yeah, if you like the art style, genre, and strategy games, they're probably worth a play. As far as strategy porn games go probably some of the best available other than maybe the Rance series? Though I haven't really played much of that yet.

I'd wager it's probably because the effort required to create such a game just doesn't scale with the average intended. Any R18 game is going to have a much smaller market to begin with. Further still, R18 markets are probably quite heavily further segregated into various kinks. So right out of the gate your available audience is being filtered quite a bit. And it doesn't really matter what format it takes, when it comes to porn, your essentials are the porn. Trying to work out a well-designed and balanced game tends to be secondary. Compelling story takes time to write, edit, revise, and proof-read that could've been spent making more erotic scenes. Good game mechanics and design take time to create, test, debug, and balance that could've been spent on making more erotic scenes.
 
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Are there time limits on some events?

I can't seem to find Leopard questing in Bazaar, but I didn't capture it for ages and even wrapped around and freed Wanda before Memoria. Wondering if I progressed too far and locked out of it.

Also, I can't seem to build the Magic Institute 10. I can keep building the Weapons Institute (I'm up to 17 now), but even if I have enough money the Magic Institute is greyed out. Do you need to recruit Lamentia or Ventrius to do it or something, because I let Gregory get to Emerald City before me and Ventrius hasn't turned up yet either? It's keeping me out of whatever the Eskaton Tower event is.
 

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Are there time limits on some events?
I think the only "time limits" are for events to occur automatically. e.g. Fiona joining you if you haven't completed some actions by a certain date. Girls being harassed in Prison. Lamentia getting conquered by the Empire. So no time limits and "you miss this event" as far as I can find.

I can't seem to find Leopard questing in Bazaar, but I didn't capture it for ages and even wrapped around and freed Wanda before Memoria. Wondering if I progressed too far and locked out of it.
He should just show up when you explore. Also it seems you can recruit him using Wanda instead of Leanne now that I'm searching for more info. I cannot, however, rule out that it isn't a random event and you may need to search multiple times or that you can lose access to him by refusing him with Leanne when you first find him.

Also, I can't seem to build the Magic Institute 10. I can keep building the Weapons Institute (I'm up to 17 now), but even if I have enough money the Magic Institute is greyed out. Do you need to recruit Lamentia or Ventrius to do it or something, because I let Gregory get to Emerald City before me and Ventrius hasn't turned up yet either? It's keeping me out of whatever the Eskaton Tower event is.
Eskaton Tower event you should get when you first conquer it telling you to build Magic Institute Lv. 10. You do not need to have conquered Eskaton Tower to build Magic Institute Lv 10 (at least on Gold and below). Once you have maxed the Magic Institute to complete the event you do need to send a Unit consisting of 9000+ Sorcerers to Eskaton Tower to unlock Wizards. (I think easiest way to do this was with Fiona?)

Additional note: If you lost Lamentia to Gregory then I don't think Ventrius will ever show up in Alvaria. Trying to translate parts of the wiki for more info and it looks like Ventrius's recruit condition is: Lamentia has joined you and after that you explore Alvaria.
 

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What's with japanese games with "Rape" genre ?
it's almost every japanese games i encountered have it in their genre ! :unsure:
Same reason rape is everywhere in movies from before the 2000s. Cause its an easy, low cost, minimum effort required way to quickly get bare tits in the shot.
 
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Same reason rape is everywhere in movies from before the 2000s. Cause its an easy, low cost, minimum effort required way to quickly get bare tits in the shot.
YEP, you see the same tropes so much because its the easiest and fastest way to get to the end goal.
 

ehendu

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Where do I find the cool helmet for the lizard?
I think officially he's supposed to be offered a Present --> Viking Helm when you go to recruit him. There was . But I know in my run he was captured in a base without a Viking Helm and when I built the Prison up to level 5 to transfer him to a Base that you could buy Viking Helms from, he didn't care. Whether that was an unresolved issue or the way the bug causing a crash for trying to recruit him was fixed, not sure.
 
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ehendu

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Can someone explain me how the ntr works on this one?
I've some hints from another game called leane II i think.. where you had to send women to a king so he could fck them

how do this one works??
Quite literally the predecessor game to Leane II so near identical except for not having a king you serve taking your female generals to the backlines to join his harem. Female General loses to an enemy and is left to sit in prison for too long? NTR. Certain generals on your team meet some conditions? NTR.
 
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In terms of gameplay, I found this game to be much more enjoyable than the sequel.
In terms of hentai, I found the sequel to be far superior.

Like, I actually beat this game, but I never beat the sequel because getting involved in years of war in the middle east was not fun.
 

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In terms of gameplay, I found this game to be much more enjoyable than the sequel.
In terms of hentai, I found the sequel to be far superior.

Like, I actually beat this game, but I never beat the sequel because getting involved in years of war in the middle east was not fun.
kinda i beat leanne 2 rather easily cuz i found a recruitable slime which i turned into a monk.....and proceeded to watch said slime BODY EVERYTHING.it was more surprising when it went down cuz that slime did good damage and took like 5 turns for the enemies 1...and it knew healing by default too
 
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kinda i beat leanne 2 rather easily cuz i found a recruitable slime which i turned into a monk.....and proceeded to watch said slime BODY EVERYTHING.it was more surprising when it went down cuz that slime did good damage and took like 5 turns for the enemies 1...and it knew healing by default too
Even still bro, the map in the 2nd game was too large for my taste. This game is a perfect size.
 
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