Canto Forte

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Try the mod and have fun ...
MC usually chooses one gurl and see her scene

Extras: - IN-GAME MOD
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  • This mod adds an in-game walkthrough for the important choices in the game Leap of Faith! - Credit: ditty00
  • I've added a scene replay gallery unlocker to unlock all gallery scenes. - Credit: OscarSix
  • I've added a scene replay gallery to the main menu with all gallery scenes unlocked and viewable. - Credit: OscarSix
 
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hype7

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Please fix the full game install files. Some of the files can't be unzipped or copied. Tried various download links and programs to unzip. This is not an issue on my end.
 
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JED69

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I cannot download a working copy of the game (pc), either full or the update. Header errors. Others seem to have the same issue. Anyone have a solution/alternate download site or torrent?
 

JED69

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Try the compressed and the mod ...
Thanks for the help CF, I'm trying to download the compressed version now (the only one I haven't tried). The mod unzips fine, but the pc version gives errors on all full pc versions and update versions, no matter the zip software I use. I've never run into this issue before.
 
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Thanks for the help CF, I'm trying to download the compressed version now (the only one I haven't tried). The mod unzips fine, but the pc version gives errors on all full pc versions and update versions, no matter the zip software I use. I've never run into this issue before.
Try downloading it directly from Drifty's patreon. Just tested it and had no issues.
 
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JED69

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Thanks for the help CF, I'm trying to download the compressed version now (the only one I haven't tried). The mod unzips fine, but the pc version gives errors on all full pc versions and update versions, no matter the zip software I use. I've never run into this issue before.
Try the compressed and the mod ...
Ok, the compressed version unzips fine without problems. If the regular downloads do not work for anyone, try the compressed version. Thanks for the suggestion CF.
 

Hahn1900

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Boah fuck that last chapter was really tough, i new it from the first second we met Cece in the game that she will propably not heal. It was clear that this game wont be all butterflys and rainbows, but that ending was really hard to witness.

I have subscribed to your patreon for many months now (dont know exactly how many) and its so worth it (even if i cant afford much) And will be til the end, i so hope you will get more subs though... kinda disappointing to see that you only got ~650 subs so far... considred how many other DEVs have and they are not even close to your quality.

Hopefully you will not struggle to finish your game in a decent amount of time. You deserve so much more support, for real now, Leap of Faith is without a doubt easy under the Top 10 VNs, maybe Top 5. There are some top quality games out there in the making with thousands and thousands of subs, and you dont have anything to hide from them.

For me this game is very special cause i can relate to 100% with Cece, needless to say that i have my demons too cause of depression... like you discribed her daily struggle to just "buy food" could be just out of my life... its exactly like that. Most of the time i go empty handed home. And its just not possible to discribe this to others, even most of the therapists out there dont understand it one bit. Depression is called a public desease nowadays, but most people are just a little bit stressed and moody... not even close to an actual depression.

Nevermind, this is not the forum for talk like that.

My guess is, you just have life experience with these kind of things yourself, maybe a close friend or family member or even you? I have been in dark places like that, and known someone who couldnt escape those dark places anymore... Hopefully its just a "dark story" youre telling here and you dont struggle yourself like that.

Anyways, keep up the awesome work, every single Chapter was better than the one before, that is really awesome work you make here!

*edit* have to say, iam not very interested in social media things, so i did not read many postings on patreon, what matters to me is the progress of the game... so i didnt know you actually dealt with this yourself and that the game has many references to your life, but i read that thing just a second ago on your patreon page... good to hear you managed wiuth your family to get through this. And hopefully never has to deal with it ever agian.
 
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fishbrain

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Wow this update.. first I have to say that bowling alley scene had me in tears twice, up there with the fleshlight scene from the awakening and the drugged raccoon fight in WIAB for funniest I've seen in a VN. Those laughs are good for the soul!!

Poor Cece. Being an emotional person in general I almost skipped the end after that warning, but the timing I think softened the blow. Kind of saw it coming even though I hoped I was wrong.
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Cabin Fever

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My guess is, you just have life experience with these kind of things yourself, maybe a close friend or family member or even you? I have been in dark places like that, and known someone who couldnt escape those dark places anymore... Hopefully its just a "dark story" youre telling here and you dont struggle yourself like that.
Well, if you had actually read what Drifty wrote in the game, you'd know the answer to that.
 

underoath27

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I finished the last chapter some days ago and I'm still thinking about the ending. It seems Cece is alive, but how? How can she be alive? I can't stop thinking that she is alive but I can't think how she will survive. I really hope she is alive, but sometimes I think she isn't :(
 

magus448

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I finished the last chapter some days ago and I'm still thinking about the ending. It seems Cece is alive, but how? How can she be alive? I can't stop thinking that she is alive but I can't think how she will survive. I really hope she is alive, but sometimes I think she isn't :(
Maybe she picked the time to jump during an unusually high water level. So she didn't fall as far as she thought she would have. That or jumped off the wrong part where it a shorter drop normally.
 
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From the beginning i resonated with Cece. Fuck, i knew that shit was coming. You always put on the mask for those around you, but those insidious thoughts just always creep back.
 
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My thoughts on what caused Cece's depression:

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Honestly there usually is no reason. There have been people in my life that have committed suicide and for the entire time i knew them i had no idea they were hurting so much. There sometimes sadly is no rhyme or reason for it. Even if you know, there isnt really anything you can do other than be there for them.

Personally i have never had a "real" reason to be depressed, my family is great and very supportive, no problems with really anything but the thoughts never really go away.
 

Hahn1900

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Well, if you had actually read what Drifty wrote in the game, you'd know the answer to that.
I did read it but wasnt able to connect it right away to a personal experience to drifty... but of course now its clear. no need to be hostile here.
 

underoath27

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Maybe she picked the time to jump during an unusually high water level. So she didn't fall as far as she thought she would have. That or jumped off the wrong part where it a shorter drop normally.
Guess we have to wait to see, but yeah, what you wrote makes sense.
 
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Canto Forte

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Cece is our hero the first time we go out with Linda.
What do you think about what comes next?
Will our bully leave us alone after Cece is done with him?
Does Cece prove her own awesomeness,
while we are still a perpetual victim 4 this bully ?

Do you believe MC should have gotten himself beaten up
only just so Cece would not have to go with that guy
?​
 

underoath27

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Cece is our hero the first time we go out with Linda.
What do you think about what comes next?
Will our bully leave us alone after Cece is done with him?
Does Cece prove her own awesomeness,
while we are still a perpetual victim 4 this bully ?

Do you believe MC should have gotten himself beaten up
only just so Cece would not have to go with that guy
?​
Hahaha! I'm not sure if I believe this guys, I don't know, something seems off. And how about that guy who was watching MC and his LI(s) in the ending of chapter 5?
 

1337Bob

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Leap of Faith is a really good game. 2020 has been a surprisingly good year for high-quality, story driven games, with many new developers entering the space (thanks COVID?). For a first time developer especially, Leap of Faith is exceptionally good. I'm surprised it hasn't gotten more attention, and it took me so long to find it as it's right up my alley. I can only assume it's a matter of time.

Drifty is creating a compelling narrative with interesting characters. It has meaningful choices. It has a good and consistent tone, it's serious when it needs to, and humorous when it needs to. It has beautiful renders. It has a great and thematically appropriate soundtrack. It has fluid and fun animation sequences. Perhaps above all, it has a very high level of polish. It's hard to describe completely but everything from the UI to the game mechanics just screams high quality. It is so high that you can easily compare Leap of Faith to current greats of adult VNs like Being a DIK and City of Broken Dreamers and not feel bad in the slightest - Leap of Faith matches up or even surpasses them in certain cases. Everyone who is interested in story-driven adult VNs should play this game.

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I now want to talk about my issue with Leap of Faith. I prefaced this with the overwhelming praise because the game deserves it, even if I do have problems with it. My criticism is because I want the game to be the best it can possibly be.

Minor spoilers ahead.

My primary criticism is to do with Episode 4, and more specifically what I see as the game pigeonholing, or forcing major decisions on the player far too early. The start of Episode 4 asks you to pick one of the love interests. This decision will affect who you go on a "date" with at the end of Episode, and from all indications, who will be your primary (if not exclusive) love interest in the game going forward. This is far too early for the story. I realize I am not the first to raise this issue, and Drifty has mentioned it already (8 chapters), but I wanted to give my opinion on it. The choice of love interest should have really been at the end of chapter 4, not the start (at a minimum, anyway). Both the player, and James as a character aren't really at a position to make such a choice. You barely know anything about much of the girls, or at least anything other than the superficial. Chapter 4 should have been getting to know each of the love interests, then deciding.

The clear casualty of this issue is Stephanie. When we have to decide at the start of Chapter 4, we have yet to have single real conversation with her, nor have we heard her reason for leaving. There's also a disconnect between the player and James, who the player is meant to inhabit. James may or may not be in love with Stephanie based on his emotions, but the player doesn't really have anything to go on other than a couple of flashback scenes. The result is incredibly gamey. Most people probably won't pick Steph initially, then they get to the conversation with her and hear her out, then they have reload back to the decision to pick her if they like her, completely breaking immersion. Alternatively, players may pick Steph on a whim, then hear her out, decide her reason is shit, then reload to pick someone else. In other words, the player is making a decision that really requires knowledge they only obtain after that decision.

While the issue with Stephanie is the most obvious, the same issue affects all the love interests to some extent (with the possible exception of Lexi). You only find out more about them during Chapter 4 after the decision, or worse, only on their specific path. The relationship and history between Linda and James is unclear, particularly how they broke up and James began dating Stephanie instead. Robin and Kira come across only as a sexually open/promiscuous couple who just want a threesome. Only after you pick their route to you learn about their desire to settle down and have a family (a possible point of tension?). Cece's condition (and the cause thereof) isn't really explained or meaningfully expanded upon, even if you do pick her path. Lexi seems to be the only one who seems to be more or less what she initially appears to be, but her path has issues too. Unless you specifically pick her path, she barely chases after you, bizarre given it's the primary reason she invited you and your friends. On her path, she states she's been throwing herself at you, which doesn't seem the case at all. Lexi also seems incredibly unfazed by all the other competing love interests.

Chapter 4 should have allowed you to go on all the "dates" with all the love interests (even if it means skimping or moving the sex scenes currently within the dates) and get to know them much better, then you decide which one to pursue, then you can get a sex scene. While moving the decision to the end of Chapter 4 isn't perfect and there are still some underlying issues, I think it's far better than how it's currently set out. I still think there needs to be more time/chapters, especially to develop some interpersonal conflict, competition and jealousy between the love interests (and James), but okay for Drifty's planned eight chapter length budget.

While it's not as a big deal, I also find the forced choices and passage of time also annoying. Yeah I know devs have to limit choices and can't explore every combination of choices, it does at times feel really artificial. At the start of Chapter 4, there's no real reason James can't do more than one of the options. There's no real reason James can't text Steph (it takes like 5 minutes) then go visit Lexi. Robin's and Kira's conversation seems like in only takes ten minutes. The only two that seem like they take any substantial length of time is Cece and Lexi's choices (but James always has time to visit Linda after?).

The passage of time during Chapter 4's "party" section also confused me. It's one of those cases where I can't tell if I'm just an inattentive idiot, or it was poorly communicated to the player. Initially I thought the whole party sequence takes place over one night/two days - Lexi's song showing a flashforward. This is probably because I was first on Lexi's path where they say they would have a date tomorrow, so I took it at its word that the date was the next day? Then I though maybe the party sequence takes place over a few days (no more than a week). Now I see here on this thread people saying the time skip is a few weeks, which is why Cece has a tan? I'm really not sure what the passage of time is meant to be. If it is meant to be more than a few days, than it raises the issue of why James fails to spend more time having deeper and meaningful conversations with people other than his chosen love interest (and Linda I guess). Also don't Chris and Kira have jobs to go to? Like at Chapter 4 end summary screen, it says about Kira and Robin "In fact, you've dismissed both of them completely. They are completely ok with being just your friend". So over possible weeks we're at Lexi's, we don't get a single other opportunity to talk to them about being a couple/throuple, other than the very first night? Even with both of them being pretty into it? Like why not?!?

The weird, inconsistent passage of time really confuses the narrative. I'm left feeling like Chapter 4 is incomplete, even though it's meant to be finished and is by far the largest and most extensive of the chapters.

Most of the other issues I have with Chapter 4 have already been well articulated by ename144 in this good post.

Anyway enough from me. I've been really critical but I have to reiterate even with my complaining, this game is really fucking good.

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Hi DriftyGames

A while back I made that long form post both praising the game and offering my constructive criticism for the game.

Having just played the most recent chapter, and the revelation that LoF is a deeply personal story, I realise in retrospect that my criticism is pretty hollow, and misses the meaning and intent behind the creation of LoF and its story.

For that reason I wish to apologise for that post.

Leap of Faith remains a fantastic story, and I look forward to its completion.
 
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