VN Ren'Py Completed Leap of Faith [Ch. 8 v1.0.3] [DriftyGames]

[Elhemeer]

1) I really liked the Cece character, and I can understand the flawed nature being appealing, but for the life of me I don't get the fanatical love that seems to follow her around and don't understand what the people see in her that would have her topping out the brackets of that mibsmeebe thing over the current universe of AVN women.

I think there are two key things that draw people to Cece:

1) Her character isn't "perfect" -- and I don't just mean her mental issues. She's very pretty, but she's not flawless. She's innocent, but not. She's playful, but fearful too, etc. She's a complicated character which draws out the protective instincts of the player.

2) Most people who played from before Chapter 6 were shocked by the revelation there, but they also had been following Drifty for a while. Once the reveal happened, he started talking about it in Discord, Patreon, etc. Not a lot, but enough for the fans to link Cece to "C" ... something that adds another layer to the feelings of attachment to her.

And after the Drifty DLC came out, they got more of his thought process and feelings while creating LoF, adding another layer of emotional attachment.

Just a guess (And not sure this applies to Kazanovaromeo) on my part, but I think all this influences my feelings on the matter.

 

[talion777]

I think there are two key things that draw people to Cece:

1) Her character isn't "perfect" -- and I don't just mean her mental issues. She's very pretty, but she's not flawless. She's innocent, but not. She's playful, but fearful too, etc. She's a complicated character which draws out the protective instincts of the player.

2) Most people who played from before Chapter 6 were shocked by the revelation there, but they also had been following Drifty for a while. Once the reveal happened, he started talking about it in Discord, Patreon, etc. Not a lot, but enough for the fans to link Cece to "C" ... something that adds another layer to the feelings of attachment to her.

And after the Drifty DLC came out, they got more of his thought process and feelings while creating LoF, adding another layer of emotional attachment.

Just a guess (And not sure this applies to Kazanovaromeo) on my part, but I think all this influences my feelings on the matter.

OK, and thanks for your answer. I'm not going to try to equate mental issues, because obviously Cece is a much different animal than Lexi, but couldn't what you said in 1) equate to her as well? Pretty but not perfect, innocent and sheltered from life and men beyond her career, but aware of stuff (particularly through Holly's influence), fearful of men and relationships, fearful of being in public, etc. I found myself comparing the two throughout the game and finding them to be similar characters in many respects, albeit with a difference in degree with Cece, obviously. I still think I'm missing an intangible that you guys see. Maybe I'll never get it.

I can't say that I was especially shocked given the leadup and the mental issues, so maybe that's my cynicism influencing my perspective, but as I had not been following Drifty prior to this game perhaps that affects my outlook too. I'm afraid I don't understand the reference to Kazanovaromeo. Can you elaborate?

 

[Kazanovaromeo]

I think there are two key things that draw people to Cece:

1) Her character isn't "perfect" -- and I don't just mean her mental issues. She's very pretty, but she's not flawless. She's innocent, but not. She's playful, but fearful too, etc. She's a complicated character which draws out the protective instincts of the player.

2) Most people who played from before Chapter 6 were shocked by the revelation there, but they also had been following Drifty for a while. Once the reveal happened, he started talking about it in Discord, Patreon, etc. Not a lot, but enough for the fans to link Cece to "C" ... something that adds another layer to the feelings of attachment to her.

And after the Drifty DLC came out, they got more of his thought process and feelings while creating LoF, adding another layer of emotional attachment.

Just a guess (And not sure this applies to Kazanovaromeo) on my part, but I think all this influences my feelings on the matter.

Thank you very much for your analysis which could help ppl to focus and check but it is not apply to me cause :
1) NO One is perfect man , just tell me who in all the girls in the game is perfect and we can discuss it .
2) I do not know about Drifty issue at all untill you said it from some time ago to prevent insultig her if you remember and that is after I play her route many times and I do not know what DLC.
3) for me , I LOVE MY Angel Princess Cece,
Did I made myself clear , OE L ? , OH I fogot your OE L man.

 

[Kazanovaromeo]

because obviously Cece is a much different animal than Lexi,

Sorry Sir , Can you elaborate what do you mean by (Cece is a much different animal than Lexi)
cause all ppl in this thread do NOT consider any girl in this great magnificent game is an animal.

 

[mdf5123]

OK, and thanks for your answer. I'm not going to try to equate mental issues, because obviously Cece is a much different animal than Lexi, but couldn't what you said in 1) equate to her as well? Pretty but not perfect, innocent and sheltered from life and men beyond her career, but aware of stuff (particularly through Holly's influence), fearful of men and relationships, fearful of being in public, etc. I found myself comparing the two throughout the game and finding them to be similar characters in many respects, albeit with a difference in degree with Cece, obviously. I still think I'm missing an intangible that you guys see. Maybe I'll never get it.

I can't say that I was especially shocked given the leadup and the mental issues, so maybe that's my cynicism influencing my perspective, but as I had not been following Drifty prior to this game perhaps that affects my outlook too. I'm afraid I don't understand the reference to Kazanovaromeo. Can you elaborate?

Another part is that Cece just feels more real than other AVN characters. I don’t know much about mental illness, but many people have mentioned how authentically every aspect of her illness was handled.

CeCe also never acts like a character in a porn movie. She is in no throuple and doesn’t have an instant overwhelming attraction to the MC. Her initial desire to help him applies to everyone else she meets as well. In contrast, Lexi’s invitation for 6 strangers to stay at her house for a week doesn’t ring as true.

Finally, she is goofy and attractive and both a leader and totally lost. There is *so much* there, like a complete person that you know really well, not ”the funny one“ or ”the mean one” or ”the dumb one.”

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

Ok, so I've finished the game and have played through the Lexi, Holly, Lexi and Holly, Linda and Cece paths. My clicking finger got too worn out retracing steps to complete those lines and I had to stop before completing the Steph and Kira/Robin lines, but I will. I loved the game, enjoyed the writing and the humor and would recommend it to anyone. Having said that, I have two things:

1) I really liked the Cece character, and I can understand the flawed nature being appealing, but for the life of me I don't get the fanatical love that seems to follow her around and don't understand what the people see in her that would have her topping out the brackets of that mibsmeebe thing over the current universe of AVN women. Granted, I'm not sure if that poll was a representative sample or not and there may have been some voting irregularities on it based on some of the BaDik comments, but whatever. I liked every single one of the characters in this game, but she wasn't even my favorite in this game, not the funniest or the prettiest (understanding this is very subjective) even though she is arguably THE central character. There is obviously a depth to her that is uncommon in AVNs. I feel like I'm just not seeing something that other people see. I'm sincerely hoping that some of you guys in this thread who are likely the most invested can tell me what you see for a different perspective.

2) How could Samantha not have been called Leticia? I mean, c'mon...

As Elhemeer has just said, there is on the one hand a very beautiful young woman, but who is not perfect, either physically or in terms of her character traits.
But to speak of perfection, we must then speak of the standard criteria of society, which is very insignificant for each individual when it comes to affective relationships. What we like or dislike in a person is very suggestive and personal. So in addition to the beautiful shapes of his body, her pretty face and his expressions, she's a complex, charismatic character with very bright and playful sides for a moment, which becomes very dark and moody the next moment. This makes her mysterious, which arouses curiosity at first, she is cold in appearance at first sight, but once past the first layers of her protective shell, we discover a hypersensitive young woman who struggles daily in the greatest loneliness, which calls for a deep empathy that makes you want to help.
Then, having already expressed myself on this subject, I will make it short. What makes this character particularly endearing from my point of view is on the one hand what Cece represents for Drifty, and on the other hand the similarities of an event that I experienced with my little sister, which makes this character even more endearing.

 

[Elhemeer]

I'm afraid I don't understand the reference to Kazanovaromeo. Can you elaborate?

I'm guessing that's no longer necessary

 

[talion777]

I'm guessing that's no longer necessary

Quite. As a newbie to the thread and TLDR I wasn't aware that I was supposed to leave Britney alone.

 

[talion777]

Another part is that Cece just feels more real than other AVN characters. I don’t know much about mental illness, but many people have mentioned how authentically every aspect of her illness was handled.

CeCe also never acts like a character in a porn movie. She is in no throuple and doesn’t have an instant overwhelming attraction to the MC. Her initial desire to help him applies to everyone else she meets as well. In contrast, Lexi’s invitation for 6 strangers to stay at her house for a week doesn’t ring as true.

Finally, she is goofy and attractive and both a leader and totally lost. There is *so much* there, like a complete person that you know really well, not ”the funny one“ or ”the mean one” or ”the dumb one.”

Thanks, that makes a great deal of sense in the interpretation. I'm not sure that Lexi's invitation of the strangers is so weird in the context of her lifestyle, where random gatherings of strangers is the norm. I'm thinking regular societal norms might not apply there. Also, she is desperately trying to overcome social awkwardness in everyday social situations which she is not used to and which she way overcompensates for. I have seen this kind of thing in real life many times and don't find it that weird. I have to agree on the throuple thing though. Still, you could attribute that in large part to Holly, who of all the characters is probably the most rounded and the most stable. One could easily make a case for her leading her lost friend through any path to "normalcy" in social interaction and Lexi is obviously open to experimentation. Is anybody really surprised, ever, about what type of sexual scenarios A list celebrities get themselves into?

Just to be clear, Lexi isn't the most interesting character to me either, but I see many similarities between her and Cece, and although less developed within the context of her personal anxieties I could see the path she was on after the game end too. In all the endings that I've seen so far except where she finishes with the MC and gets engaged there is a sense of deep regret and sadness, sometimes bitterness, and you can see her pulling further into her shell, not emerging from it. She is going in the wrong direction whereas despite the struggle Cece is presumably moving in the right one in all the ending scenarios. Who knows where that leads?

It just seems like an interesting dichotomy to me and interesting how perception and reactions differ as well.

 

[Kazanovaromeo]

I'm guessing that's no longer necessary

Are you laughing on Cece is an animal all of you is OE L 9 especially Brout who I think he will defend Cece as he said is special for him

 

[Boobs Lover]

I'm not going to try to equate mental issues, because obviously Cece is a much different animal than Lexi

This metaphor is perfect to make one over-attached to Cece person angry
Also your point of view is interesting in your posts.

 

[cxx]

This metaphor is perfect to make one over-attached to Cece person angry

no sign of kaz lately. maybe he and cece are on honeymoon.

 

[cxx]

No they are not, his post is above my previous post

he just used hotel's wifi for that.

 

[talion777]

This metaphor is perfect to make one over-attached to Cece person angry
Also your point of view is interesting in your posts.

Sorry, I didn't take non native English speakers into account when using idiomatic references in my previous post. I'll strive to be more character sensitive in the future.

 

[talion777]

This metaphor is perfect to make one over-attached to Cece person angry
Also your point of view is interesting in your posts.

Sorry, I didn't take non native English speakers into account when using idiomatic references in my previous post. I'll strive to be more character sensitive in the future.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

No they are not, his post is above my previous post
Kaz is sitting in corner and crying cause he thinks someone offended Cece.

He's so angry that even people speak well of Cece he get mad

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

Sorry, I didn't take non native English speakers into account when using idiomatic references in my previous post. I'll strive to be more character sensitive in the future.

I have to admit he's a kind of animal this one

 

[Boobs Lover]

He's so angry that even people speak well of Cece he get mad

We don't need to speak about Cece, writing "my Cece" even as "my Cece route playthrough" is enough to start a war

 

[Boobs Lover]

Sorry, I didn't take non native English speakers into account when using idiomatic references in my previous post. I'll strive to be more character sensitive in the future.

I did not meant this is any bad way.
You don't need to say sorry, i was able to understand what you mean even if my English is on low level
Be aware one person here is able to take out-of-context any word from your comment to start argue.
Peace

 

[talion777]

I did not meant this is any bad way.
You don't need to say sorry, i was able to understand what you mean even if my English is on low level
Be aware one person here is able to take out-of-context any word from your comment to start argue.
Peace

No worries. I was referring to the other person. I was also being a bit sarcastic. Nothing I said was directed at you at all, and your English seems fine.