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John972

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Holy shit so he took down his patreon so it's not a misdirect she's really his sister? damnnn that was ballsy


Like many others I am really dissapointed in Jaime. I don't think it's bad writing i think its interesting and in line with her character and she is honestly a lot more selfish than she comes across at first glance. Wants MC to herself cockblocks him but is too much of a coward to admit her feelings and then when his life is falling apart and he is finally oppening up she bails. I'm kind of glad it happened this way it makes it easy to end the relationship with her and not look back. MC talks about how important she is to him but she kind of just bounces in and out of his life on her terms. Same reason Aghvani is a no go MC needs someone who actually stays.

I do like Emillene the best now. MC just needs some sweet innocent and loyal. Though he's already creampied his sister who clearly wants to be a mother so who knows how the fuck that is going to work out. It didn't give a flag for creampieing so shes not already pregnant but clearly even if they get passed that it will still be an issue for them unless they adopt or whatever.


edit: to continue the rant what makes me so angry at Jaime is that it felt like it was set up for her to choose love. The brother says that she knows that if the MC asked her to stay she would well he pretty much confessed his love for her and she hard rejects him so she doesnt love him nearly as much as other people think she does. And the symettry of her fathers story of falling in love with his wife and how he was all prepared to go to italy and then he saw her and that was that I would've thought it would've been reflected also in Jaime staying or at least fighting for a relationship with the MC trying to make it work. She just didn't even care. so dissapointed in her character (not the writing but her). She was one of my top LI's in any VN for a while (lol in mysignature still!) but poo on her
Re: Jamie. She gets the job offer late on day 42. She rejects Rockford on day 45. The last we see of her is during the morning of day 46. Day 47 - the date she had to accept the new position - comes and goes. The AVN then skips to day 51 and ends that evening. It seems unlikely Jamie's gonna have a sudden change of heart if she accepted the position, but who knows...
What a load of talk. You're missing the point - Seo Jun has the impressive bush! Just gorgeous, old school, thick and silky hairs! I saw a guy here with the nickname Bush Diver, he would certainly appreciate it! And you guys are blabbering other such a nonsense, Jamie's carrier plans, Rockford's intimacy issues... Ew. :Kappa:
Ah, but you forget, the last time Rockford had sex with a woman sporting a glorious bush, he literally got his dick cut off! :)
 
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Ah, but you forget, the last time Rockford had sex with a woman sporting a glorious bush, he literally got his dick cut off! :)
Hey, that was a threesome. An imaginary threesome, but it still counts, right? Is an imaginary dick worth an imaginary threesome, that is the question!
 
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Hey, that was a threesome. An imaginary threesome, but it still counts, right? Is an imaginary dick worth an imaginary threesome, that is the question!
It better be imaginary! With all the shit going on in Rockford's life right now, the absolute last thing he needs is to become a Nika. :)
 
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Great update! One of those rare games where I am invested in and don't really care much about the porn. Which is quite surprising, because it has an amazing cast of LIs:

Aghavni the hottest.

Malena the most beautiful.

Emmeline the most endearing.

And of course Jamie, my favorite. She seems to have been taking a back seat in the latest episodes. I suppose that was the price to pay for her being a well-adjusted human being. She should have been MCs rock through all this, IMO, but perhaps that's just my bias speaking. Her decision in the latest update also seemed a bit OOC. But I shall wait and see the dev's vision before judging too much.

Keep up the good work, dev! I am looking forward to the future updates!
 

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doovel

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Holy shit so he took down his Patreon, so it's not a misdirect she's really his sister? damnnn that was ballsy

Like many others I am really disappointed in Jamie. I don't think it's bad writing, I think it's interesting and in line with her character and she is honestly a lot more selfish than she comes across at first glance. Wants MC to herself, cockblocks him, but is too much of a coward to admit her feelings, and then when his life is falling apart and he is finally opening up, she bails. I'm kind of glad it happened this way, it makes it easy to end the relationship with her and not look back. MC talks about how important she is to him, but she kind of just bounces in and out of his life on her terms. Same reason Aghavni is a no go, MC needs someone who actually stays.

I do like Emmeline the best now. MC just needs someone sweet, innocent and loyal. Though he's already creampied his sister, who clearly wants to be a mother, so who knows how the fuck that is going to work out. It didn't give a flag for creampieing so she's not already pregnant, but clearly even if they get past that it will still be an issue for them unless they adopt or whatever.


edit: to continue the rant what makes me so angry at Jamie is that it felt like it was set up for her to choose love. The brother says that she knows that if the MC asked her to stay she would well he pretty much confessed his love for her and she hard rejects him so she doesn't love him nearly as much as other people think she does. And the symmetry of her father's story of falling in love with his wife and how he was all prepared to go to Italy and then he saw her and that was that. I would've thought it would've been reflected also in Jamie staying or at least fighting for a relationship with the MC trying to make it work. She just didn't even care. so disappointed in her character (not the writing but her). She was one of my top LI's in any VN for a while (lol in my signature still!) but poo on her
He has only taken down the links for now. He will take down his Patreon later.

So if you want to take this opportunity to throw the dev some last minute cash:

Likely won't be up for much longer anyway.

I'll remove the link when he deletes it, or when Monk gets pissy on discord.
 
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Such a good game. I just played it for the first time. And I'm glad I played now because there are sex scenes with all good girls.

My main girl is obviously Malena, because she is the hottest. I have second save with Aghavni too because she has the biggest boobs. And I also have save with Emmeline because it's the funniest one.

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Such a good game. I just played it for the first time. And I'm glad I played now because there are sex scenes with all good girls.

My main girl is obviously Malena, because she is the hottest. I have second save with Aghavni too because she has the biggest boobs. And I also have save with Emmeline because it's the funniest one.

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Always happy to see other dark twisted fuckers enjoying the Emmeline timeline. (Not for the romance, for the unavoidable glorious fallout)

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I'm just a little sad that there won't be harem ending, basing on "choosing" a lady in recent episodes.

But still hope for good threesomes.
 

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About 1) I think so too but now Monk liked my theory and i started overthinking, would he really give it a like if its right? :ROFLMAO: I would tend to think he would like it if its wrong to create more confusion instead of liking a theory which is right and could spoil stuff if he likes it :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: (ignore all this please lol).

About Jamie: Yeah i already clarified in my edit in my post, its Rockford who states that Jamie revealed it to him but Carrington doesnt really answers nor clarifies. So i and Rockford may judged Jamie too quickly

Good idea to try a tell jamie nothing route, im just not sure im able to do it :cry: would be way easier with every other LI :p
I went through the "don't tell Jamie anything" route again (on a Jamie path) - successfully this time. As before, Jamie doesn't learn anything about Rockford's father or sister until the time they met up in Ch 4 and she invites him to the Carrington mansion.

As far as I can tell, Carrington's conversation with Rockford at the mansion is the same irrespective of what Rockford does or does not confide to Jamie. Rockford does say to the Senator: "So Jamie told you about my theory. Did you know he's still alive?" I went through the previous dialogues between the moment Rockford confided to Jamie and Rockford's statement to the senator - there's nothing there to suggest Jamie told the Senator anything so I wonder if Rockford is jumping to conclusions because he didn't consider that Senator Carrington might already know the truth about Hobbs' being a murderer.

Another difference between Rockford confiding or not confiding in Jamie occurs at the Carrington mansion when Jamie lets out the little freudian slip while sunbathing. After Rockford leaves to get a soda, Trevor asks her: "Does that mean you've made up your mind?" [i.e. he knows of the offer but not Jamie's decision). Jamie replies: "Not yet." It then gets into a back-and-forth where Jamie finally says: "It doesn't matter any more. He trusted me so little that he didn't even tell me about the number one most important thing in his life. He didn't tell me about his sister. All the growth I thought he was making. But I guess I really haven't helped him much at all."

[on the normal Jamie route, when Trevor asks, Jamie still hasn't made a decision. She acknowledges Rockford has changed over the last year but thinks it's because of his sister, not her, and deflects about how she fears abandoning Rockford as a friend when he's made such progress and needs her most [thus, kinda revealing she has made a decision]. Trevor eventually says: "Besides, you have to make the choice that's best for you, not for him. I know you already know that. Just like I know you've already decided what it is that you really want."]

On both routes, Rockford still assumes Jamie told her father about her theory. On both routes, Jamie's mum says: "Honey, if that's how you really feel then there's only one choice you can really make. You don't want to spend the rest of your life regretting--" Most players - myself included - likely thought at the time that Julia was talking about Jamie's love for Rockford. Alas, she wasn't, judging by subsequent events. I now assume the "regret" would be Jamie turning down the Harvard role.

Never confiding to Jamie about your father and sister until forced to do so also blocks off the option for Rockford to kiss her and confess his love at the mansion, because he stays behind an impenetrable emotional wall and Jamie never asks him about his sister. He simply tells Jamie he's going to bed early and she tells him she's moving. Rockford reassures her that's OK and he's happy for her. They hug, that's it. Interestingly, Jamie doesn't burst into tears. Those tears come on the other route where Rockford accidentally reinforces her view/fear that she's about to abandon him.

It's interesting that despite Jamie's decision, she still looks at Cassie with daggers in her eyes whenever Cassie interacts with Rockford.

As an aside, in replaying both routes, I saw a beautiful but bittersweet little moment/connection I didn't pick up on before.

Senator Carrington tells Rockford how he met and fell in love with his wife:

"And as I stepped inside, I saw the most beautiful girl I'd ever laid eyes on sitting in front of a grand piano. I watched her hands, delicate yet moved by passion, dance across the keys. Her hair was dark red, but a single stage lamp made it glow like the morning sunlight. I stood there watching until she finished the song. And when she turned and looked at me, I knew I wasn't going to Italy. I knew then that Julia was my future wife." (of course, Carrington simply mentions it to force home his later point about how he'd go to war for his family)

The next morning, Rockford walks in on a most beautiful redhead sitting in front of a grand piano, with hands dancing across the keys. It's a bittersweet moment, since Rockford's reaction after the previous night's rejection when Jamie turns to look at him is: "Are you ready to leave?"
 
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Glad you're enjoying the story overall! I am a little disappointed with this take, though.

I'd been trying to set Jamie up as a very ambitious person. In each of Episodes One through Three there is a discussion about her goals going beyond just working in the District Attorney's Office. Yes, she does protest when asked and says she's happy for now being a DA. But she admits that she wants to be a federal judge, which I personally consider a very, very ambitious goal. She's even already applied to take on a second job as a law professor at a local law school, showing both her interest in teaching and, again, her ambition. In addition, her past job history clerking for a federal court of appeals and clerking for a United States Supreme Court justice are only things that an ambitious person would do. Even just the fact that she went to Harvard Law School is consistent with having ambition.

But I guess the problem here is that I didn't do a good job of explaining why these facts are relevant to showing her ambition. Most players aren't going to understand, for example, what it means to be clerk for the court of appeals or the supreme court. So that's my fault.

I do agree that she's leaving at a really hard time for the MC. But I think that actually makes her a much more interesting character. She understands that this is hard for the MC and she's really torn up about it because the job at Harvard is a once in a lifetime opportunity and she really wants it. But she also truly loves the MC. This is a very difficult conflict for her.

I do want my characters to feel real and to have their own hopes and ambitions outside of their relationship with the MC, even if that comes at the cost of that character's "likeability." The fact that we can't have everything we want in life sometimes will lead to hard choices. And hard choices are always going to make for good storytelling.
 

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Glad you're enjoying the story overall! I am a little disappointed with this take, though.

I'd been trying to set Jamie up as a very ambitious person. In each of Episodes One through Three there is a discussion about her goals going beyond just working in the District Attorney's Office. Yes, she does protest when asked and says she's happy for now being a DA. But she admits that she wants to be a federal judge, which I personally consider a very, very ambitious goal. She's even already applied to take on a second job as a law professor at a local law school, showing both her interest in teaching and, again, her ambition. In addition, her past job history clerking for a federal court of appeals and clerking for a United States Supreme Court justice are only things that an ambitious person would do. Even just the fact that she went to Harvard Law School is consistent with having ambition.

But I guess the problem here is that I didn't do a good job of explaining why these facts are relevant to showing her ambition. Most players aren't going to understand, for example, what it means to be clerk for the court of appeals or the supreme court. So that's my fault.

I do agree that she's leaving at a really hard time for the MC. But I think that actually makes her a much more interesting character. She understands that this is hard for the MC and she's really torn up about it because the job at Harvard is a once in a lifetime opportunity and she really wants it. But she also truly loves the MC. This is a very difficult conflict for her.

I do want my characters to feel real and to have their own hopes and ambitions outside of their relationship with the MC, even if that comes at the cost of that character's "likeability." The fact that we can't have everything we want in life sometimes will lead to hard choices. And hard choices are always going to make for good storytelling.
I could definitely tell what a tough decision it was for Jamie to choose her career over the MC. It was also a tough decision for me to choose between Jamie and Emmeline. Jamie helped me decide that I want to be with Emmeline, yes even after the revelation (maybe even more so now but shhh ;)) So thanks for that Jamie! :ROFLMAO: I just hope that Emmeline still feels the same way, after she inevitably freaks out over it.
 
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Glad you're enjoying the story overall! I am a little disappointed with this take, though.

I'd been trying to set Jamie up as a very ambitious person. In each of Episodes One through Three there is a discussion about her goals going beyond just working in the District Attorney's Office. Yes, she does protest when asked and says she's happy for now being a DA. But she admits that she wants to be a federal judge, which I personally consider a very, very ambitious goal. She's even already applied to take on a second job as a law professor at a local law school, showing both her interest in teaching and, again, her ambition. In addition, her past job history clerking for a federal court of appeals and clerking for a United States Supreme Court justice are only things that an ambitious person would do. Even just the fact that she went to Harvard Law School is consistent with having ambition.

But I guess the problem here is that I didn't do a good job of explaining why these facts are relevant to showing her ambition. Most players aren't going to understand, for example, what it means to be clerk for the court of appeals or the supreme court. So that's my fault.

I do agree that she's leaving at a really hard time for the MC. But I think that actually makes her a much more interesting character. She understands that this is hard for the MC and she's really torn up about it because the job at Harvard is a once in a lifetime opportunity and she really wants it. But she also truly loves the MC. This is a very difficult conflict for her.

I do want my characters to feel real and to have their own hopes and ambitions outside of their relationship with the MC, even if that comes at the cost of that character's "likeability." The fact that we can't have everything we want in life sometimes will lead to hard choices. And hard choices are always going to make for good storytelling.
and thats why ppl will choose her only at the first run - maybe - before they know
there is no point in going into a (virtual :D ) relationship if yk the girl leaves
the whole story she's telling if she cant have him shes staying friend - again and again
bad sign
she is a hottie but not worth curting her if she leaves - imo
and with her amibitions - it will be hard for the mc , either a long range relationship ( :( ) or he has to move with her
i for myself have a save with the path open - but even so with malena so far
 

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Glad you're enjoying the story overall! I am a little disappointed with this take, though.

I'd been trying to set Jamie up as a very ambitious person. In each of Episodes One through Three there is a discussion about her goals going beyond just working in the District Attorney's Office. Yes, she does protest when asked and says she's happy for now being a DA. But she admits that she wants to be a federal judge, which I personally consider a very, very ambitious goal. She's even already applied to take on a second job as a law professor at a local law school, showing both her interest in teaching and, again, her ambition. In addition, her past job history clerking for a federal court of appeals and clerking for a United States Supreme Court justice are only things that an ambitious person would do. Even just the fact that she went to Harvard Law School is consistent with having ambition.

But I guess the problem here is that I didn't do a good job of explaining why these facts are relevant to showing her ambition. Most players aren't going to understand, for example, what it means to be clerk for the court of appeals or the supreme court. So that's my fault.

I do agree that she's leaving at a really hard time for the MC. But I think that actually makes her a much more interesting character. She understands that this is hard for the MC and she's really torn up about it because the job at Harvard is a once in a lifetime opportunity and she really wants it. But she also truly loves the MC. This is a very difficult conflict for her.

I do want my characters to feel real and to have their own hopes and ambitions outside of their relationship with the MC, even if that comes at the cost of that character's "likeability." The fact that we can't have everything we want in life sometimes will lead to hard choices. And hard choices are always going to make for good storytelling.
I think people mistake ambition for arrogance, and when a person like Jamie comes around in their lives they don't see her as ambitious because to them it's a negative character trait, one she doesn't display.
 
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And at least according to the walkthrough you will lose malena's path if you throat strike tanner which is the only possibility to win (and try to kill him).
And yet nobody here mentioned how fucking satisfying it was to throat-punch him, so goooooood!

I'm aware that she is by far, by far the most popular LI and that there are a lot of players that are eager for her sex scenes. However, when I came up with the story for Leaving DNA, this is the story I came up with, and this is the pace it moves at.
That's perfect for me, Jamie is also my favorite, and I would hate to see a rushed relationship with her.

Incredible episode that I just finished a few hours ago and my theory is the same as a lot of people here:

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Glad you're enjoying the story overall! I am a little disappointed with this take, though.

I'd been trying to set Jamie up as a very ambitious person. In each of Episodes One through Three there is a discussion about her goals going beyond just working in the District Attorney's Office. Yes, she does protest when asked and says she's happy for now being a DA. But she admits that she wants to be a federal judge, which I personally consider a very, very ambitious goal. She's even already applied to take on a second job as a law professor at a local law school, showing both her interest in teaching and, again, her ambition. In addition, her past job history clerking for a federal court of appeals and clerking for a United States Supreme Court justice are only things that an ambitious person would do. Even just the fact that she went to Harvard Law School is consistent with having ambition.

But I guess the problem here is that I didn't do a good job of explaining why these facts are relevant to showing her ambition. Most players aren't going to understand, for example, what it means to be clerk for the court of appeals or the supreme court. So that's my fault.

I do agree that she's leaving at a really hard time for the MC. But I think that actually makes her a much more interesting character. She understands that this is hard for the MC and she's really torn up about it because the job at Harvard is a once in a lifetime opportunity and she really wants it. But she also truly loves the MC. This is a very difficult conflict for her.

I do want my characters to feel real and to have their own hopes and ambitions outside of their relationship with the MC, even if that comes at the cost of that character's "likeability." The fact that we can't have everything we want in life sometimes will lead to hard choices. And hard choices are always going to make for good storytelling.
all of this imo wasn't that well expressed in-game though, especially her being conflicted about it, I think that's why some people disliked her in the update. On the one hand she was so into the MC and he can somewhat be open for the taking depending on his choices, but there is no real difference in scenes whether or not he consider her a friend or potentially something more. I don't mind her being ambitious or whatever, that's her business. But a different kind of conversation could probably have been more meaningful depending on the routes.
 

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and thats why ppl will choose her only at the first run - maybe - before they know
there is no point in going into a (virtual :D ) relationship if yk the girl leaves
the whole story she's telling if she cant have him shes staying friend - again and again
bad sign
she is a hottie but not worth curting her if she leaves - imo
and with her amibitions - it will be hard for the mc , either a long range relationship ( :( ) or he has to move with her
i for myself have a save with the path open - but even so with malena so far
If he does run for senator, they could become an absolute powerhouse of a power couple. And to think we would then get to see them power coupling.
 
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