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No.Name00

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I think you're misunderstanding the reason behind 'sfw' options. In my experience, there's only a few reasons you would say 'no' to a porn scene while playing a porn game:

1. You aren't interested in the sex scene.

2. You need the illusion of choice to add to the corruption mechanic. Games like this, with the slow gradual corruption / sluttification of its characters, need the illusion of choice. Choice is needed to either prolong the character's corruption, or to tick that little box in your head that says, "Yeah, you're a dirty girl, aren't ya?" and to see her submit to the pleasure.

Very few porn games are worth playing for any other reason than as masturbatory fuel. If they want to add a sfw toggle, let them I guess. I won't be using it!
While what you write is true, it is not in contrary to my original question. Why is it a problem that there is an option for sfw. Because that's what the biggest problem of the people are. Because they think that they would make nsfw content instead of nsfw. But that's not true. It would be like a light switch. If you turn the light on you will be able to see the whole room. If you turn the light of, the room would still be entirely there, just you would be unable to see the whole of it. So they don't make ANY kind of sfw for the game, they only make the nsfw content into and sfw with skipping the nsfw part. And people have problem with that, why? If someone don't want to use that option than they don't have to. So why they have any problem with it? WHY?
 

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It wouldn't be such a problem if they said they want to make the game enjoyable to play even if you ignore the Nsfw part or something like that, that's not what they said, the toggle changes everything. Do you people think sex scenes are the only things that count as Nsfw? Have you seen the kind of clothes some of the women wear, like the dancing girl, her clothes are barely there. In the game the Lizard people are presented as if they don't have much consideration for things such as modesty. In the demon fox intro she is naked, the lizard women sleeping in the room are naked. All of that would have to be changed in my opinion to make it actually Sfw. Maybe it won't be as much work to create alternate outfits for everyone but it will change the feel of the world, and it takes resources away from core development which they sorely need, so what will end up happening is the whole game will become a little more Sfw except for the sex scenes.

Also consider the current game and think any main event in the game which does not include Nsfw scenes, Introduction to the village, Demon fox backstory, Nesi's relationship with kantir, clothes getting stolen etc. Without Nsfw scenes the story is incoherent and all you are left with is busywork, drag the pot, pick up sticks, tan leather, the end. If they change the events to be Sfw, as it stands right now the story is not anything to write about and gameplay is way below mediocre, without porn this game is nothing. In two years they haven't added support to move using keyboard, even though they have the simplest form of traversal posiible, just left and right, and they say platforming was always planned. At the very least I've never seen a 2d game with models bigger than half the screen and only mouse controls with platforming. I know they've said they'll add a lot of stuff to make it better but we have yet to see anything, I'm not saying to disbelive them or pull support, but a little caution and a bit more pressure on them wouldn't hurt anyone.

In the end the Sfw toggle may seem like a small thing to many people but it's not if you look at the bigger picture. They have bigger problems. These 2 man developer team worked for 2 years (from what I've read) and their work ended up a mess as they realised they bit more than they can chew and overestimated their ability to make the game. So, they bring in 3 more people, good, but then they become even more overambitious and increase the scope 5-10 times more, with so much customisation to Krystal, from what I've read demon fox will be added later in the story so the story has a much bigger scope, there will be multiple villages, combat system like KOTOR, Platforming etc. They still have what looks like more work than what their small team can accomplish unless you can wait 4-5 years more.

All this given that they've yet to complete a single game. It's not such a small thing, even if they rushed and finished the game as it is right now with a little more content and sequel bait, that would be better. My brother is a game developer so I know little bit about how projects work, in the end there will always be something more you can add, something more you can polish and make better, something you can change etc, if keep doing all these things the game will never finish, you need to learn to set bounderies and deadlines and finish what you can. This is not a problem with just small developer, Look at Star citizen, 8 years and 250 million dollars later, it's still not finished. Look at Anthem with Bioware, a AAA studio with such a history and acclaimed games under their belt and experienced veteran developers. They spent like 6-7 years on that game, first five years they just dicked around apparently and after EA came calling for their game they started actually developing and came up with the half baked piece of crap it is now. But at least Anthem got made, these are newbie developers(at least there is nothing else they've made that I can see), making the game at their own pace who love going on vacations and have no oversight. Their ability to make an actual game and finish it is in question, so I don't think it's such a good idea to be talking about SFW filter for a game where most people are supporting them to for the promise of a decent to high quality niche fetish porn game they are unable to get anywhere else. (I can also talk about some other things but this post became way longer than intended so whatever I guess.)
 
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No.Name00

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It wouldn't be such a problem if they said they want to make the game enjoyable to play even if you ignore the Nsfw part or something like that, that's not what they said, the toggle changes everything. Do you people think sex scenes are the only things that count as Nsfw? Have you seen the kind of clothes some of the women wear, like the dancing girl, her clothes are barely there. In the game the Lizard people are presented as if they don't have much consideration for things such as modesty. In the demon fox intro she is naked, the lizard women sleeping in the room are naked. All of that would have to be changed in my opinion to make it actually Sfw. Maybe it won't be as much work to create alternate outfits for everyone but it will change the feel of the world, and it takes resources away from core development which they sorely need, so what will end up happening is the whole game will become a little more Sfw except for the sex scenes.

Also consider the current game and think any main event in the game which does not include Nsfw scenes, Introduction to the village, Demon fox backstory, Nesi's relationship with kantir, clothes getting stolen etc. Without Nsfw scenes the story is incoherent and all you are left with is busywork, drag the pot, pick up sticks, tan leather, the end. If they change the events to be Sfw, as it stands right now the story is not anything to write about and gameplay is way below mediocre, without porn this game is nothing. In two years they haven't added support to move using keyboard, even though they have the simplest form of traversal posiible, just left and right, and they say platforming was always planned. At the very least I've never seen a 2d game with models bigger than half the screen and only mouse controls with platforming. I know they've said they'll add a lot of stuff to make it better but we have yet to see anything, I'm not saying to disbelive them or pull support, but a little caution and a bit more pressure on them wouldn't hurt anyone.

In the end the Sfw toggle may seem like a small thing to many people but it's not if you look at the bigger picture. They have bigger problems. These 2 man developer team worked for 2 years (from what I've read) and their work ended up a mess as they realised they bit more than they can chew and overestimated their ability to make the game. So, they bring in 3 more people, good, but then they become even more overambitious and increase the scope 5-10 times more, with so much customisation to Krystal, from what I've read demon fox will be added later in the story so the story has a much bigger scope, there will be multiple villages, combat system like KOTOR, Platforming etc. They still have what looks like more work than what their small team can accomplish unless you can wait 4-5 years more.

All this given that they've yet to complete a single game. It's not such a small thing, even if they rushed and finished the game as it is right now with a little more content and sequel bait, that would be better. My brother is a game developer so I know little bit about how projects work, in the end there will always be something more you can add, something more you can polish and make better, something you can change etc, if keep doing all these things the game will never finish, you need to learn to set bounderies and deadlines and finish what you can. This is not a problem with just small developer, Look at Star citizen, 8 years and 250 million dollars later, it's still not finished. Look at Anthem with Bioware, a AAA studio with such a history and acclaimed games under their belt and experienced veteran developers. They spent like 6-7 years on that game, first five years they just dicked around apparently and after EA came calling for their game they started actually developing and came up with the half baked piece of crap it is now. But at least Anthem got made, these are newbie developers(at least there is nothing else they've made that I can see), making the game at their own pace who love going on vacations and have no oversight. Their ability to make an actual game and finish it is in question, so I don't think it's such a good idea to be talking about SFW filter for a game where most people are supporting them to for the promise of a decent to high quality niche fetish porn game they are unable to get anywhere else. (I can also talk about some other things but this post became way longer than intended so whatever I guess.)
First and foremost. The whole game is going through a reworking. Means that they make new models, new backgrounds, new story, new everything. I don't know how different it would be from the current build, and i don't think that anyone but the devs know it, but i'm fairly sure that the sfw toggle are only covers the sex and gore part. Don't think it would extend as much as to change the models outfit and the story's flow. As for the game's development itself. Yes, the old 2 man team was overwhelmed because Kuja was only the artist and Abelius was the animator and coder in one person. And he never done any of the two before the game. Now in the other hand, there is a professional AAA level programer who could put together some good stuff. And a professional animator to make the content creation faster. As for the too much planned think. Everything they want to make "WAS" planned a long time yes. It was just that abel was not a good enough coder to make them at that time. And they not going to make every new thing from the get go. The first they concentrate to is the basic stuff, like the platforming, keyboard control, combat and stuff. So people could try it and tell about their opinions. And yes, even the demo is going to contain sex. Later they increase the content and expand the versatility of the game. But they have to have a solid foundation otherwise it would end up like the first build.
 
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First and foremost. The whole game is going through a reworking. Means that they make new models, new backgrounds, new story, new everything. I don't know how different it would be from the current build, and i don't think tha anyone but the devs know it, but i'm fairly sure that the sfw toggle are only covers the sex and gore part. Don't think it would extend as much as to change the models outfit and the story's flow. As for the game's development itself. Yes, the old 2 man team was overwhelmed because Kuja was only the artist and Abelius was the animator and coder in one person. And he never done any of the two before the game. Now in the other hand, there is a professional AAA level programer who could put together some good stuff. And a professional animator do to make the content creation faster. As for the too much planned think. Everything they want to make "WAS" planned a long time yes. It was just that abel was not a good enough code to make them at that time. And they not going to make every new thing from the get go. The first they concentrate to is the basic stuff, like the platforming, keyboard control, combat and stuff. So people could try it and tell about their opinions. And yes, even the demo is going to contain sex. Later they increase the content and expand the versatility of the game. But they have to have a solid foundation otherwise it would end up like the first build.
Everything you say is right but my point is that the people who are concerned do have cause for concern, you can't dismiss them as not understanding something or being stupid, as many people are doing here and elsewhere. The fact is there is no demo right now, only developers truly know what is going on, so both negative and positive speculation is as likely to be true. I can say a lot more but it feels like pointless negativity. In the end, I hope the game turns out great just like we are being promised, but I'm also concerned.
 
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Everything you say is right but my point is that the people who are concerned do have cause for concern, you can't dismiss them as not understanding something or being stupid, as many people are doing here and elsewhere. The fact is there is no demo right now, only developers truly know what is going on, so both negative and positive speculation is as likely to be true. I can say a lot more but it feels like pointless negativity. In the end, I hope the game turns out great just like we are being promised, but I'm also concerned.
You are right. And being concerned is totally fine. Many of us are concerned. The only thing that is not good is that many are making baseless accusation regarding the content even after several explanation from the devs and others because they either can't understand the explanation or idiots. It is pretty easy to differentiate between the two. If someone is can't understand than that is still fine, we are explaining till they can. But when someone is being an idiot, now that is more hard because that means the he or she is to stubborn to talk with most of the times, but they still could be talke using civilized ways. But when someone is an idiot and being an asshole to, and just talking nonsense, then that is hard to take without being angry. And the most tiring that the majority of the people are just to lazy to read back here or in the patreon and they just asking and saying the same thing over and over again. And when people couldn't be bothered to repeat themselves the 20th or 30th time, than they start to badmouth them and throwing curses. All in all, yes, the game is changing, yes, there's going to be more to the game than just a gallery or a walk and fuck simulator like the previous build seemed to be because the development was slow and hard. If people can't accept that they free to stop the support. But please, don't badmouth the devs because all they want is to make a better game, and please don't badmouth the game's demo because it not even get released. Everyone is free to give their opinion about the demo AFTER it's released. Witch would already been happened if people would not make so much damn rucks about the feet and the model's other aspects. So yeah, please wait till that time. Thank you. All of you.
 
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Aww yeah. It's platforming time
Pretty cool, but I don't play the game to drag boxes around... I really liked the corruption and progression of what they had before, if they can have that same style while making the game the way they're making it now, that would be awesome.... The multiple outfits would look really good
 

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Pretty cool, but I don't play the game to drag boxes around... I really liked the corruption and progression of what they had before, if they can have that same style while making the game the way they're making it now, that would be awesome.... The multiple outfits would look really good
The thing is, the game itself will not going to decreasing in the amount of the adult content, it will be even bigger than was planned before. It just that, unlike the previous version where abel focused on creating the adult content first and the game's structure and mechanics later, now it is reversed. They first create the game's system, that would not require too many maintenance in the future and than they going to start making adult content and implement that into the game.
 
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Adult content will probably be the same or more, difference will be the time it takes to get to the content most likely. I did love the previous version due to a few minutes spent had you content. Waiting to see what they chose to do with the new stuff.
 

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Games like this, with the slow gradual corruption / sluttification of its characters, need the illusion of choice. Choice is needed to either prolong the character's corruption, or to tick that little box in your head that says, "Yeah, you're a dirty girl, aren't ya?" and to see her submit to the pleasure.
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Get out of my head.
 
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I don't have an issue with the armor. I just don't like the way she's drawn. Among other things, I think the main factor is that her face looks kinda scrunched.
I think "scrunched" is a good word. I didn't know what to call her face, but you're right.
 

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So,maybe we will get a new (reboted) version at the end of December?Well i think that then we will have only 2% of content that was in 0,8 version.Cuz they said that game will starts at the ship,if summ up it will be only introduction of the game.Does anyone have any info about date or content that will be in v 1/0.1?
 

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So,maybe we will get a new (reboted) version at the end of December?Well i think that then we will have only 2% of content that was in 0,8 version.Cuz they said that game will starts at the ship,if summ up it will be only introduction of the game.Does anyone have any info about date or content that will be in v 1/0.1?
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The demo will come in a few weeks, with this we will also get a new roadmap and will likely see what is in store for the future.
As far as I remember the team wanted to match the content 0.8 has in early 2020 with the reboot.
The demo will also have 3-4 erotic scenes. It will be a demo of how the game looks and will likely not be just the start of the game.
 
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