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So many arguments in the last few pages (didn't bother looking further back yet) sheesh. Here I thought, as a legit grinder, I could find some discussion on the gameplay. Like how I'm stuck with 199 reputation and only a couple erotic scense make my red and purple lust rise, while some don't anymore(like, is that a bug or intentional?). But I understand how people can get frustrated with such slow progress. Especially with so much seeming support at the dev's patreon. I can't imagine a Hgame like this being worth remotely close. But I've barely any idea on game development and the general circumstances in the dev's life so there's probably a lot I just don't get. I can only compare to other dev's.

But I have to say, as someone who isn't into furries (almsot disgusted really) this particular game really made me be into K as a character. So much that I occasionally fantasize about her, more than tolerating the furry traits haha. This is my way of complimenting the devs, because THAT takes effort and being very crafty to pull off on an almost anti-furry with character design, game grind and story. Well done, indeed.

I'm sorry to butt in with my 'a nobody's opinion', but I really hope devs will stick to what they've gone for already and don't really change K's appearance assets (facial and otherwise) as they are in the in-game menu screen where she blinks :D If anything, I only don't quite understand the design idea, why her feet are very paw'ish, when the hands are clearly human-like. I know I'm biased but that doesn't really make sense. Otherwise, looking forward to buying the full release, regardless. I've put more hours into this already than anyone should so that's only fair xD
 
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So many arguments in the last few pages (didn't bother looking further back yet) sheesh. Here I thought, as a legit grinder, I could find some discussion on the gameplay. Like how I'm stuck with 199 reputation and only a couple erotic scense make my red and purple lust rise, while some don't anymore(like, is that a bug or intentional?). But I understand how people can get frustrated with such slow progress. Especially with so much seeming support at the dev's patreon. I can't imagine a Hgame like this being worth remotely close. But I've barely any idea on game development and the general circumstances in the dev's life so there's probably a lot I just don't get. I can only compare to other dev's.

But I have to say, as someone who isn't into furries (almsot disgusted really) this particular game really made me be into K as a character. So much that I occasionally fantasize about her, more than tolerating the furry traits haha. This is my way of complimenting the devs, because THAT takes effort and being very crafty to pull off on an almost anti-furry with character design, game grind and story. Well done, indeed.

I'm sorry to butt in with my 'a nobody's opinion', but I really hope devs will stick to what they've gone for already and don't really change K's appearance assets (facial and otherwise) as they are in the in-game menu screen where she blinks :D If anything, I only don't quite understand the design idea, why her feet are very paw'ish, when the hands are clearly human-like. I know I'm biased but that doesn't really make sense. Otherwise, looking forward to buying the full release, regardless. I've put more hours into this already than anyone should so that's only fair xD
In before the "do you use internet explorer" jokes come flying at you. The version of the game you're playing which is 0.8 is the last version of that form of this game. The game is being rebuilt from the ground up with the same artist but a much bigger team than just 2 people. So expect the same art quality but with a better built game that isn't gonna be coded like it was coded by a toddler (Which I think apparently that was the case?) as they have an actually coder now and from what I've seen he's pretty good at it. They also have a proper animator plus the old animator. There's going be several new directions for sex scenes as the game is gonna have a top-downish isometric view now, plus you can have companions from what we're told, some of which are dateable.

As for why your stats weren't going up in 0.8 is because that was intentional since there's not any content beyond that point for having rep over 199. Why bother coding in higher values if its not gonna get you anything? But yea, there's no more work being done on the version you're currently able to download on this thread. Sometime this year (fingers crossed!) they're gonna release a new demo of their new iteration of the game, and yes from what we're told its gonna have some sex scenes, we just don't know what scenes those are.

But one thing I can tell you is that if you have further questions they have a discord channel where patreons get bonus privileges and channel access but anyone can join. They are very active on the discord and the community there is very silly if not very friendly, if you have any questions it'd be best to ask them there, I can get the link to it if you want to join the discord to ask your questions! But otherwise I think you can find the discord invite link on their patreon too.
 
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Here I thought, as a legit grinder, I could find some discussion on the gameplay. Like how I'm stuck with 199 reputation and only a couple erotic scense make my red and purple lust rise, while some don't anymore(like, is that a bug or intentional?).
You could find information about that if you used the search function. I'm 100% sure that exact topic has been discussed before. It's just that at this point 0.8 is not new any more, and the upcoming re-remake is therefore more interesting to talk about.
I really hope devs will stick to what they've gone for already and don't really change K's appearance assets (facial and otherwise)
Too late to be wishing for things like that I'm afraid.
I only don't quite understand the design idea, why her feet are very paw'ish, when the hands are clearly human-like. I know I'm biased but that doesn't really make sense.
I never really thought about that, but it seems to be a furry thing in general come to think of it.
Why bother coding in higher values if its not gonna get you anything?
I could turn that question around and ask why would they put a limiter in place (which is more likely to be the case) when the stat doesn't matter?
Sometime this year (fingers crossed!) they're gonna release a new demo of their new iteration of the game
This year means this day. You know that, right? I'm not counting on them releasing a demo on such short notice.
 

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This year means this day. You know that, right? I'm not counting on them releasing a demo on such short notice.
Sick with a cold thats giving me headaches and stuffing my nose six ways to sunday. By this year I meant 2020, my bad.

Forgot you have to be technical on the internet because nuance or simple understanding isn't a thing.
 

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I could turn that question around and ask why would they put a limiter in place (which is more likely to be the case) when the stat doesn't matter?
I don't believe this is the reason, but if the value never had a roof, the game possibly could have bugged on lengthy games. But pretty much respect has no holding in the old version.
 
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Too late to be wishing for things like that I'm afraid.
I mean, here she's quite more human-like compared to many other furries. Especially that dog-nose face isn't very long. Much more subtle than a fox's. More like a cat's. Every little facial artistic decision just complemented each other to make her very compassionably cute, which is totally subjective. A sense of individualism. Just hope she doesn't look like another person in the newer version. Thanks for the imput, hope dies last haha. Not a big deal.

I never really thought about that, but it seems to be a furry thing in general come to think of it.
Yeah, you'd think if the hands are human, then feet fingers would be analogical. But I guess It's up to the concept artist what specific exterior anatomy, so to speak, to convert into furry. All fantasy anyway
 

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I mean, here she's quite more human-like compared to many other furries. Especially that dog-nose face isn't very long. Much more subtle than a fox's. More like a cat's. Every little facial artistic decision just complemented each other to make her very compassionably cute, which is totally subjective. A sense of individualism. Just hope she doesn't look like another person in the newer version. Thanks for the imput, hope dies last haha. Not a big deal.


Yeah, you'd think if the hands are human, then feet fingers would be analogical. But I guess It's up to the concept artist what specific exterior anatomy, so to speak, to convert into furry. All fantasy anyway
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None of our devs are furries either, by the way.
 

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That's... not encouraging to hear. It implies a mostly for profit venture rather than for passion. Imagine if a group of non star wars fans declared they were making a new star wars film.
They don't even know any previous LOK game, I thought this "rebirth" was based on Legend of Krystal VG that was quite similar in previous versions, but when I asked it in discord they told me they never played a game hahaha
 

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They don't even know any previous LOK game, I thought this "rebirth" was based on Legend of Krystal VG that was quite similar in previous versions, but when I asked it in discord they told me they never played a game hahaha
To be fair it's not the most expansive series. There was the original janky sidescrolling beatem up with about 6 total animations, version g, and a million unfinished things in various stages of completion but rarely more than a single area.
 
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None of our devs are furries either, by the way.
Oh no, that chest hair XD I mean, I don't judge furries at all, I have my own "unorthodox" kinks.
Damn, she does look a bit different, especially with that eye angle which, I guess contributes to a more exotic and lusty, but less compassionable look I got into so much :( but hey, can't win them all, eh? still very awesome and not too far off I guess haha
 

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They don't even know any previous LOK game, I thought this "rebirth" was based on Legend of Krystal VG that was quite similar in previous versions, but when I asked it in discord they told me they never played a game hahaha
That is entirely incorrect. I've played all of the LoK games. Just because Gorepete made a good LoK spinoff doesn't mean we have to copy what he left off with. I'm not sure who you talked to, but most of our devs played LoK Version G, and the original LoK, to, you know, know the source material.


That's... not encouraging to hear. It implies a mostly for profit venture rather than for passion. Imagine if a group of non star wars fans declared they were making a new star wars film.
And that is what you immediately assume? Despite all of our statements about our desire to make the game as it should be made?

This is why I rarely speak on here. Everything is immediately taken negatively. No, I'm not a furry. I don't take much stock in the fandom, however I had a childhood crush on Krystal ever since I played Star Fox Adventures when I was going through puberty. Ontop of that, we're not making much money **at all**. One of our devs isn't even being paid, so don't even think that we're doing this for money.

Every time I come on here I feel like everyone thinks we're a bunch of imbecilic scam artists.
 
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Every time I come on here I feel like everyone thinks we're a bunch of imbecilic scam artists.
That's because that's what a vast majority of Patreon projects feel like most of the time.

There are very very few projects that have 1000+ Patreons or who earn say $2000+ a month that don't progress extremely slowly, regardless of how simple their game is. It's very suspicious when a project hits that sort of a range then suddenly updates go incredibly slow.

Of course, more money doesn't equate to an automatic increase of quality or speed but when both suddenly drop for no well explained reason, it's highly worrisome.
And then there's the issue of devs who start earning a lot and decide they need to massively overhaul a game people were already enjoying, reworking the art or adding in a bunch of mechanics that make it take another 2 years to finish, if the project doesn't just die from devs peacing out, people losing interest or some quarrel leading to the demise of the game, like with the infamous Breeding Season.

If nothing else, surely you can see why changes like this don't excite people? It is damn hard to have faith in Patreon projects and it seems clear to me people would rather see games just get completed, so they feel like they can trust devs to make more in greater quality later.
 

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That's because that's what a vast majority of Patreon projects feel like most of the time.

There are very very few projects that have 1000+ Patreons or who earn say $2000+ a month that don't progress extremely slowly, regardless of how simple their game is. It's very suspicious when a project hits that sort of a range then suddenly updates go incredibly slow.

Of course, more money doesn't equate to an automatic increase of quality or speed but when both suddenly drop for no well explained reason, it's highly worrisome.
And then there's the issue of devs who start earning a lot and decide they need to massively overhaul a game people were already enjoying, reworking the art or adding in a bunch of mechanics that make it take another 2 years to finish, if the project doesn't just die from devs peacing out, people losing interest or some quarrel leading to the demise of the game, like with the infamous Breeding Season.

If nothing else, surely you can see why changes like this don't excite people? It is damn hard to have faith in Patreon projects and it seems clear to me people would rather see games just get completed, so they feel like they can trust devs to make more in greater quality later.
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I can concur with that second response on non-fans making fandom material. As an occasional fanfic author; sometimes I may produce content on a series I know only superficial information on. A unique idea may pass through my mind and I go, oh I know of this one series that may fit in well with. That doesn't mean I go in and just write whatever, it means I have to go in and review the content carefully. I won't make a Star Fox fic without first understand what I'm getting into. I'm sure the same could be said about artists as well, I'm sure the Legend of Krystal staff has made sure their works is par with the source material.

Fandoms shouldn't be attacking creators. They're a small minority and those who produce high quality media are 1 in million. I downloaded this at .8 and I must say the prospect looks great. It just needs more content.
I don't mind criticism, it's just the constant negativity about things we've already explained wear me down. This game wouldn't survive if we didn't reboot. It was something that we had to do to continue making the game, and yet we constantly get shit for it. Bothersome.

Anyway, I appreciate your support, we're working hard to try and make a higher quality game. It's just that the higher quality takes far more time. We've also made the mistake of listening to fans on remodels and other stuff that we shouldn't have done...
 

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Oooo Weee their trying! Take is easy on these guys, they already have a lot of pressure on them for working on a "cursed" game. I'm seeing both sides, and they all have some points. There are indeed a lot of patrions out there 'earning' loads of money with little to show. But is it fair to sweep the LoK:R staff under the same rug? I remember once upon a time that things were going abysmal and the team even said go ahead and withdraw your pledges for a month. who does that?

Now though, it's true that one of the members currently has a family emergency, but the other aspects are still being worked on. Heck, I'll even toss a little update for you guys to show it's progress.
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"this is the current WIP of the walk cycle for front"

If I were honest I'd say her feet are not picking up as much as I'd like, but it's a WIP. Since I (and I also suspect a lot of others here) don't have experience in gave development, I'd say it would not be right to judge without being in their shoes.
 

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That is entirely incorrect. I've played all of the LoK games. Just because Gorepete made a good LoK spinoff doesn't mean we have to copy what he left off with. I'm not sure who you talked to, but most of our devs played LoK Version G, and the original LoK, to, you know, know the source material.




And that is what you immediately assume? Despite all of our statements about our desire to make the game as it should be made?

This is why I rarely speak on here. Everything is immediately taken negatively. No, I'm not a furry. I don't take much stock in the fandom, however I had a childhood crush on Krystal ever since I played Star Fox Adventures when I was going through puberty. Ontop of that, we're not making much money **at all**. One of our devs isn't even being paid, so don't even think that we're doing this for money.

Every time I come on here I feel like everyone thinks we're a bunch of imbecilic scam artists.
I'm a pessimist, I assume the worst of everything. Crush on Krystal, but not a furry? I get the label ain't exactly CV material, but that's a weird line to draw when you're producing a porn game starring an anthro fox girl. As for people being wary, many other people have noted patreon is rife with opportunists, expect people to doubt until there's a completed product.
 
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Oooo Weee their trying! Take is easy on these guys, they already have a lot of pressure on them for working on a "cursed" game. I'm seeing both sides, and they all have some points. There are indeed a lot of patrions out there 'earning' loads of money with little to show. But is it fair to sweep the LoK:R staff under the same rug? I remember once upon a time that things were going abysmal and the team even said go ahead and withdraw your pledges for a month. who does that?

Now though, it's true that one of the members currently has a family emergency, but the other aspects are still being worked on. Heck, I'll even toss a little update for you guys to show it's progress.
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"this is the current WIP of the walk cycle for front"

If I were honest I'd say her feet are not picking up as much as I'd like, but it's a WIP. Since I (and I also suspect a lot of others here) don't have experience in gave development, I'd say it would not be right to judge without being in their shoes.
Yeah that was brought up. Unfortunately the guy dealing with a family emergency is our animator.

What we're planning of course is something like this
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But is it fair to sweep the LoK:R staff under the same rug? I remember once upon a time that things were going abysmal and the team even said go ahead and withdraw your pledges for a month. who does that?
Given the track record of Patreon projects and even beyond that, Legend of Krystal related games, surely the answer is yes?

I doubt people remember or know about that to be honest. Maybe this project will go swimmingly and it'll be one of the best porn games ever completed but cynicism ought to be disproved.
After having his back broken nobody believed Batman could jump out of that prison, until he eventually did it.
There's a reference.
 
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Given the track record of Patreon projects and even beyond that, Legend of Krystal related games, surely the answer is yes?

I doubt people remember or know about that to be honest. Maybe this project will go swimmingly and it'll be one of the best porn games ever completed but cynicism ought to be disproved.
After having his back broken nobody believed Batman could jump out of that prison, until he eventually did it.
There's a reference.
I-I-I...um, Sorry, I'm not well versed with batman, I don't get it.

But hey, You miss at every pitch you don't swing at. No...that would not be missing. missing implies you tried. How about, you don't hit the ball if you never swing. yeah yeah, I like that better. You do have a point though, as much as I hate to admit, that Patreon is infamous for what it is (lack for a better word, cash grabbers.) And yes, there are, i don't know...lots of unfinished Lok games. But remember that one that was made, Version G? It's talked about and referenced by thousands. It is one of the post original LoK games to have huge success. I would love to see that recreated here, and I'm sure so would everyone else.

I get it, people are upset that their favorite iconic fox may not ever have another face in this kind of lewd light. There is debate, accusations, anger, name calling, and general chaos. I get it. People want this to succeed, it's perhaps the best chance of a Lok game we've had in a long while of this degree. People are also pessimistic about it, having fears and doubts. There is nothing I can claim that would put these restless thoughts at ease. But we can look at this rationally. There have been updates after updates, the devs are working on this. it will take time, and money. Worst case scenario is if this is never finished. Other's may say, worst case scenario is that the devs take the money and run. But that does not seem to be the case, from what I have witnessed.

Admittedly I would say visit their discord and view the streams they have once in a while, but with the artist in an emergency, the streams have ceased, for now. There is however, Q&A in the discord voice chat from time to time where you can talk with a dev or more.
 
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